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Jay Honeck
December 24th 04, 03:51 AM
Several unheard of things occurred Wednesday. We had:

- 2 days off from the hotel
- both kids off school
- widespread VFR weather forecast to last 2 days -- in December

When strange things like this happen, you don't question them, and you don't
ever pass them by. No sir, you seize upon them like the gems they are, as
if they were the last rays of sunshine on a warm Sunday summer's eve. We
simply *had* to fly somewhere.

But where?

After rejecting St. Louis (snowstorm headed that way), Minneapolis (no more
Mall of America, pleeeeeze...), Door County, WI (lake effect snow always
imminent) and the SAC Museum in Omaha (it's 60 miles from the closest
airport), we happened to gaze upon Oshkosh on our sectional.

Oshkosh? Hmmm...why not? Maybe we could even get into that new Hilton
that is unavailable (and unaffordable) during the fly-in each July? What
could it hurt to check?

Shazaam! A phone call proved that a night in the Oshkosh Hilton, in
December, is just $69.95 per night for all four of us! That's a bargain we
simply couldn't pass up -- and, with the outstanding EAA museum just across
the airport, we certainly wouldn't lack for entertainment. So OSH became
our destination.

Wednesday dawned clear and bitterly cold, with temperatures hovering around
zero degree Fahrenheit. Luckily, Atlas was plugged in, fully fueled, and
ready to go -- which is more than I can say about us. Packing our luggage
and the kids into the frigid plane was an exercise in speed and
efficiency -- it's amazing how *cold* focuses the minds of even the young --
and we were soon taxiing out for departure, trying to hold our breath so as
not to frost over the windows.

Since Mary had never flown into OSH before, she had the honor of the flight
out. Climbing effortlessly to 7500 feet through the thick, cold air, we
soon leveled out and watched as our cabin temperature gradually climbed from
5 to 75 degrees -- thanking Mr. Piper for that terrific Cherokee heater all
the way! I always marvel at how 1/4 inch of plexiglass can keep 170
mph, -20 degree temperatures out of our airplane -- it just doesn't seem
like it ought to be possible...

A 15-knot, 90-degree crosswind at that altitude gave us no help, but didn't
hurt us either, and we soon trued out at our usual 140-ish knots. This
speed would have us in OSH in about 1.6 hours -- which sure beats a 7.5 hour
drive! Once again we sat in awe as Atlas, our personal magic carpet, made
it possible for us to live in the "wilderness" of Iowa, yet remain within
easy reach of everything and everyone we hold dear.

Landing at OSH was a surreal experience. After 22 years of Airventures, we
were treated to the sight of an utterly silent Wittman Field, covered with 5
inches of fresh snow that did little to obscure the oh-so-familiar EAA
grounds.

We were the only plane in the pattern on this bitterly cold weekday morn,
and, as such, the controller had Mary enter a LEFT downwind for Rwy 27 -- an
act which would have resulted in FAA action had it occurred during the
fly-in! It truly felt weird to be flying directly over the giant (and
vacant) vendor building (A, B, C, and D), and to look down on a completely
empty Aeroshell Square -- normally the site of the most notable and famous
airplanes in the world.

There were no teaming crowds, no snap-rolling Extras, no performers, no
tents -- nothing but the outlines of cart paths and the forum tents, clearly
visible in the snow. Interestingly, the poles they string the snow fences
from alongside Rwy 27 ( in the "North Forty" camping area) were still up...I
guess I always assumed those were temporary. It didn't seem that long ago
that we were lounging in folding chairs alongside that fence, drinking a
cold one with friends and watching the arrivals and departures...

The big shower building was there, too, of course, standing alone in the
middle of a hundred acres of snow-swept North Forty tundra. The thought of
standing outside that building wearing nothing but a swimsuit and a smile
made me shiver involuntarily...

Rolling out on Rwy 27, the controller had us exit at the next taxiway -- a
real switch from the usual "exit into the grass as soon as possible and
follow the EAA flagman..." There was no hearty "Welcome to Oshkosh!" from
this bored controller, and we soon discovered that the taxiway she had
directed us onto had not yet been plowed. It took half-throttle to bulldoze
our way through the drifted snow, but we were soon shutting down on Basler's
wind-swept ramp, dreading the thought of getting out of the toasty-warm
plane.

Basler's was sooo weird. No planes on the ramp -- none. A freezing lineman
greeted us to help plug our extension cord in overnight (you don't fly in
the upper Midwest in winter without either a Tannis heater, or a pre-heat in
the morning), and a Christmas tree in the lobby made an otherwise lonely
scene more cheery. In summer these people wouldn't have given us the time
of day -- this ramp is reserved for the movers and shakers of the aviation
world during the fly-in -- but today they were willing and able to do just
about anything for us. They offered to top us off, at "only" $2.69 per
gallon, and they called the Hilton for us, even trying to negotiate a better
deal for us. Then they gave us a ride over to the hotel. All in all, they
were marvelous, and not at all like they seem during Airventure.

Not that I blame them for that -- after all, would you rather sell 500
gallons of Jet-A, or 50 gallons of 100LL? It's all about money during the
air show, and they've got to kiss the hand that feeds them best...

The Hilton was almost more surreal than the airport. During Airventure we
eat breakfast at the hotel's buffet several times during the week, and enjoy
sitting on their observation deck for a cold one a few times during the
show. More than once we've bumped into Bob Hoover, Chuck Yeager, Barron
Hilton, Paul and Tom Poberezney, and any number of lesser aviation
celebrities while standing in line for our ham and eggs....

Not today. This time, there were "no lines, no waiting" as we literally had
the place to ourselves. We ran into a couple of employees we recognized
from the fly-in, and enjoyed a few laughs with them as they told us what a
nightmare the last week of July was for them each year. The cook quite
literally was cooking for us alone this day -- a far cry from the 500 ham &
cheese omelets he made each morning during Airventure!

The money they make during the air show boggles the mind. They are already
sold-out for 2005 -- with a TEN night minimum stay, at $269 per night, plus
tax! That's $3000, boys and girls, just to avoid a week of camping on the
field under the wing? Amazing...

Multiply that times 200 rooms, plus the restaurant, plus the bar, and they
make enough during that one week to carry them through the rest of the year,
when they are almost literally empty. Either that, or Barron Hilton is
simply willing to lose a bucket of money in order to have his own little
clubhouse off of Rwy 27.

The folks at the hotel gladly shuttled us to the museum, despite the bitter
cold. The ride over in the not-yet-warmed-up van was mercifully brief, and
we were soon enjoying the world-class displays, movies and (new!)
full-motion flight simulators that can be found in this marvelous museum.
Best of all, being EAA members, admission was absolutely free!

The EAA museum never fails to amaze me. I've been there a dozen times over
the years, going back to the very first year it opened, and yet each visit
is better than the last. They never seem to sit on their laurels, and are
always striving to display better and more educational (yet entertaining)
displays. Everything from air racers, to World War II bombers, to a
full-scale replica control tower greet the visitor -- pleasing callous old
pilots and wet-behind-the-ears kids equally.

The only thing that always baffles me is that there has never been -- and
there still is no -- food available for sale in the museum. Since we hadn't
eaten lunch, we had to make do with some vending machine chips and candy --
not exactly what we had hoped for. Someday it would be nice to see them add
a sandwich shop to the otherwise top-notch mix of items for sale in the
museum.

After a solid five hours at the museum, a night of swimming and basking in
the hot-tub flushed away all of our aches and cares (although a night on
their brick-hard beds put a few of those kinks back in my neck). This
morning a wonderful breakfast followed by a brief (if frigid) ride back to
Basler soon had us airborne and winging our way home. The sun shone
brightly, and we were soon in shirtsleeves despite the -20 degree
temperatures at 6500 feet.

This time a tiny bit of a tailwind had us zipping along at 148 knots, and we
quickly passed through sector after sector of controllers, wishing (and
being wished) a Merry Christmas all the way home...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Morgans
December 24th 04, 04:06 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote

we happened to gaze upon Oshkosh on our sectional.
>
> Oshkosh? Hmmm...why not?

> Jay Honeck

Have they started on building the new control tower at OSH yet?
--
Jim in NC

Dave Stadt
December 24th 04, 04:36 AM
You should have been there last Friday for the Hilton catered dinner and
Mike Melville presentation. It was an outstanding evening.

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:inMyd.624509$D%.49343@attbi_s51...
> Several unheard of things occurred Wednesday. We had:
>
> - 2 days off from the hotel
> - both kids off school
> - widespread VFR weather forecast to last 2 days -- in December
>
> When strange things like this happen, you don't question them, and you
don't
> ever pass them by. No sir, you seize upon them like the gems they are, as
> if they were the last rays of sunshine on a warm Sunday summer's eve. We
> simply *had* to fly somewhere.
>
> But where?
>
> After rejecting St. Louis (snowstorm headed that way), Minneapolis (no
more
> Mall of America, pleeeeeze...), Door County, WI (lake effect snow always
> imminent) and the SAC Museum in Omaha (it's 60 miles from the closest
> airport), we happened to gaze upon Oshkosh on our sectional.
>
> Oshkosh? Hmmm...why not? Maybe we could even get into that new Hilton
> that is unavailable (and unaffordable) during the fly-in each July? What
> could it hurt to check?
>
> Shazaam! A phone call proved that a night in the Oshkosh Hilton, in
> December, is just $69.95 per night for all four of us! That's a bargain
we
> simply couldn't pass up -- and, with the outstanding EAA museum just
across
> the airport, we certainly wouldn't lack for entertainment. So OSH became
> our destination.
>
> Wednesday dawned clear and bitterly cold, with temperatures hovering
around
> zero degree Fahrenheit. Luckily, Atlas was plugged in, fully fueled, and
> ready to go -- which is more than I can say about us. Packing our luggage
> and the kids into the frigid plane was an exercise in speed and
> efficiency -- it's amazing how *cold* focuses the minds of even the
young --
> and we were soon taxiing out for departure, trying to hold our breath so
as
> not to frost over the windows.
>
> Since Mary had never flown into OSH before, she had the honor of the
flight
> out. Climbing effortlessly to 7500 feet through the thick, cold air, we
> soon leveled out and watched as our cabin temperature gradually climbed
from
> 5 to 75 degrees -- thanking Mr. Piper for that terrific Cherokee heater
all
> the way! I always marvel at how 1/4 inch of plexiglass can keep 170
> mph, -20 degree temperatures out of our airplane -- it just doesn't seem
> like it ought to be possible...
>
> A 15-knot, 90-degree crosswind at that altitude gave us no help, but
didn't
> hurt us either, and we soon trued out at our usual 140-ish knots. This
> speed would have us in OSH in about 1.6 hours -- which sure beats a 7.5
hour
> drive! Once again we sat in awe as Atlas, our personal magic carpet, made
> it possible for us to live in the "wilderness" of Iowa, yet remain within
> easy reach of everything and everyone we hold dear.
>
> Landing at OSH was a surreal experience. After 22 years of Airventures,
we
> were treated to the sight of an utterly silent Wittman Field, covered with
5
> inches of fresh snow that did little to obscure the oh-so-familiar EAA
> grounds.
>
> We were the only plane in the pattern on this bitterly cold weekday morn,
> and, as such, the controller had Mary enter a LEFT downwind for Rwy 27 --
an
> act which would have resulted in FAA action had it occurred during the
> fly-in! It truly felt weird to be flying directly over the giant (and
> vacant) vendor building (A, B, C, and D), and to look down on a completely
> empty Aeroshell Square -- normally the site of the most notable and famous
> airplanes in the world.
>
> There were no teaming crowds, no snap-rolling Extras, no performers, no
> tents -- nothing but the outlines of cart paths and the forum tents,
clearly
> visible in the snow. Interestingly, the poles they string the snow fences
> from alongside Rwy 27 ( in the "North Forty" camping area) were still
up...I
> guess I always assumed those were temporary. It didn't seem that long
ago
> that we were lounging in folding chairs alongside that fence, drinking a
> cold one with friends and watching the arrivals and departures...
>
> The big shower building was there, too, of course, standing alone in the
> middle of a hundred acres of snow-swept North Forty tundra. The thought
of
> standing outside that building wearing nothing but a swimsuit and a smile
> made me shiver involuntarily...
>
> Rolling out on Rwy 27, the controller had us exit at the next taxiway -- a
> real switch from the usual "exit into the grass as soon as possible and
> follow the EAA flagman..." There was no hearty "Welcome to Oshkosh!"
from
> this bored controller, and we soon discovered that the taxiway she had
> directed us onto had not yet been plowed. It took half-throttle to
bulldoze
> our way through the drifted snow, but we were soon shutting down on
Basler's
> wind-swept ramp, dreading the thought of getting out of the toasty-warm
> plane.
>
> Basler's was sooo weird. No planes on the ramp -- none. A freezing
lineman
> greeted us to help plug our extension cord in overnight (you don't fly in
> the upper Midwest in winter without either a Tannis heater, or a pre-heat
in
> the morning), and a Christmas tree in the lobby made an otherwise lonely
> scene more cheery. In summer these people wouldn't have given us the
time
> of day -- this ramp is reserved for the movers and shakers of the aviation
> world during the fly-in -- but today they were willing and able to do just
> about anything for us. They offered to top us off, at "only" $2.69 per
> gallon, and they called the Hilton for us, even trying to negotiate a
better
> deal for us. Then they gave us a ride over to the hotel. All in all, they
> were marvelous, and not at all like they seem during Airventure.
>
> Not that I blame them for that -- after all, would you rather sell 500
> gallons of Jet-A, or 50 gallons of 100LL? It's all about money during
the
> air show, and they've got to kiss the hand that feeds them best...
>
> The Hilton was almost more surreal than the airport. During Airventure we
> eat breakfast at the hotel's buffet several times during the week, and
enjoy
> sitting on their observation deck for a cold one a few times during the
> show. More than once we've bumped into Bob Hoover, Chuck Yeager, Barron
> Hilton, Paul and Tom Poberezney, and any number of lesser aviation
> celebrities while standing in line for our ham and eggs....
>
> Not today. This time, there were "no lines, no waiting" as we literally
had
> the place to ourselves. We ran into a couple of employees we recognized
> from the fly-in, and enjoyed a few laughs with them as they told us what a
> nightmare the last week of July was for them each year. The cook quite
> literally was cooking for us alone this day -- a far cry from the 500 ham
&
> cheese omelets he made each morning during Airventure!
>
> The money they make during the air show boggles the mind. They are
already
> sold-out for 2005 -- with a TEN night minimum stay, at $269 per night,
plus
> tax! That's $3000, boys and girls, just to avoid a week of camping on
the
> field under the wing? Amazing...
>
> Multiply that times 200 rooms, plus the restaurant, plus the bar, and they
> make enough during that one week to carry them through the rest of the
year,
> when they are almost literally empty. Either that, or Barron Hilton is
> simply willing to lose a bucket of money in order to have his own little
> clubhouse off of Rwy 27.
>
> The folks at the hotel gladly shuttled us to the museum, despite the
bitter
> cold. The ride over in the not-yet-warmed-up van was mercifully brief,
and
> we were soon enjoying the world-class displays, movies and (new!)
> full-motion flight simulators that can be found in this marvelous museum.
> Best of all, being EAA members, admission was absolutely free!
>
> The EAA museum never fails to amaze me. I've been there a dozen times
over
> the years, going back to the very first year it opened, and yet each visit
> is better than the last. They never seem to sit on their laurels, and are
> always striving to display better and more educational (yet entertaining)
> displays. Everything from air racers, to World War II bombers, to a
> full-scale replica control tower greet the visitor -- pleasing callous old
> pilots and wet-behind-the-ears kids equally.
>
> The only thing that always baffles me is that there has never been -- and
> there still is no -- food available for sale in the museum. Since we
hadn't
> eaten lunch, we had to make do with some vending machine chips and
candy --
> not exactly what we had hoped for. Someday it would be nice to see them
add
> a sandwich shop to the otherwise top-notch mix of items for sale in the
> museum.
>
> After a solid five hours at the museum, a night of swimming and basking in
> the hot-tub flushed away all of our aches and cares (although a night on
> their brick-hard beds put a few of those kinks back in my neck). This
> morning a wonderful breakfast followed by a brief (if frigid) ride back to
> Basler soon had us airborne and winging our way home. The sun shone
> brightly, and we were soon in shirtsleeves despite the -20 degree
> temperatures at 6500 feet.
>
> This time a tiny bit of a tailwind had us zipping along at 148 knots, and
we
> quickly passed through sector after sector of controllers, wishing (and
> being wished) a Merry Christmas all the way home...
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

Jay Honeck
December 24th 04, 05:02 AM
> Have they started on building the new control tower at OSH yet?

I didn't see any evidence of it.

I took a bunch of pix as we were landing, though. I'll have to check 'em
tomorrow...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Morgans
December 24th 04, 05:43 AM
"Dave Stadt" > wrote

A very short post, on a very long post.

Dave, at the risk of being a net nanny, please trim. Some people are still
on dial-up.

Thanks.
--
Jim in NC

Marty
December 24th 04, 05:47 AM
"Dave Stadt" > wrote in message
m...
>
> You should have been there last Friday for the Hilton catered dinner and
> Mike Melville presentation. It was an outstanding evening.
>

I'll bet it was!
Just saw Mike Melville in a short interview on DiscWings at OSH 04. Seems I
missed one helluva OSH. A mistake I am determined not to repeat in 05.

Marty

Jack Allison
December 24th 04, 06:34 AM
Great writeup Jay. I can hardly imagine all of the differences from how
things were at Air Venture compared to your trip. Maybe someday when
I'm retired and flying around the country for fun, I'll make the trek
from the left coast during winter. Hmmm, have to work on that whole
Tannis heater/pre-heat thing though since out here, we're complaining
when it drops anywhere below 40 and we need to go flying. :-)

$3K to stay at the Hilton during the show or camping by your plane?
Now, that's a true no-brainer. I'd take a bit of rain and the
possibility of my tent blowing away to camp with folks on the field
before I'd line Hilton's pockets with such a wad of cash.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL, IA Student, airplane partnership student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

December 24th 04, 08:39 AM
It's not quite always so quiet at the Hilton off season, one of the
Flight Line Ops volunteers had her wedding there in October and it was
quite lively then! It was also a Badger game night.

I did some touch and go's there about 3 weeks ago and I don't think
there was any construction yet of the new control tower.

But on the other hand, the solitude and quiet of the North 40 in winter
is really quite amazing considering the scene in July/August. Our
little Flight Line Ops building looks so lonely out there in the middle
of the field...
Ryan Wubben, M.D.
Flight Line Ops co-chairman
Madison, WI

Jay Honeck
December 24th 04, 01:47 PM
> But on the other hand, the solitude and quiet of the North 40 in winter
> is really quite amazing considering the scene in July/August. Our
> little Flight Line Ops building looks so lonely out there in the middle
> of the field...

Lonely is the best word to describe it. It's just hard to believe that it's
the same place where record-setting flights are made, and aviation
luminaries of all kinds gather every year.

When you see it like it is today, you realize how truly special Oshkosh is
every summer.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

john smith
December 24th 04, 03:39 PM
I was in OSH for the EAA Directors meeting back in 1986.
Your report doesn't sound too much different from what it was like then.
Except the Hilton didn't exist.
The Pioneer Inn was the place to be.

Blanche
December 24th 04, 06:39 PM
Jack Allison > wrote:
>$3K to stay at the Hilton during the show or camping by your plane?
>Now, that's a true no-brainer. I'd take a bit of rain and the
>possibility of my tent blowing away to camp with folks on the field
>before I'd line Hilton's pockets with such a wad of cash.

Try the dorms. $25-50 per night. And discounts on meals. And convenient
bus transportation door to door.

Peter MacPherson
December 24th 04, 09:20 PM
Do the dorms have AC? Otherwise it might get pretty hot. I've stayed
overnight at dorms on bike rides and with no AC it was miserable.
Now I always use a tent, and always have plenty of AC...... <g>.


"Blanche" > wrote in message
...
> Jack Allison > wrote:
>>$3K to stay at the Hilton during the show or camping by your plane?
>>Now, that's a true no-brainer. I'd take a bit of rain and the
>>possibility of my tent blowing away to camp with folks on the field
>>before I'd line Hilton's pockets with such a wad of cash.
>
> Try the dorms. $25-50 per night. And discounts on meals. And convenient
> bus transportation door to door.
>
>

Blanche
December 24th 04, 10:32 PM
Peter MacPherson > wrote:
>Do the dorms have AC? Otherwise it might get pretty hot. I've stayed
>overnight at dorms on bike rides and with no AC it was miserable.
>Now I always use a tent, and always have plenty of AC...... <g>.

One of the dorms at Lawrence (in Appleton) is now airconditioned.
I'd rather be a bit warm with no AC in the dorms and also have
hot/cold showers, running water, etc and not have to slog thru
mud and such in the morning. I also like having the bathrooms
*right there* instead of having to walk some distance to the
port-a-potty.

What can I say? I like the creature comforts.

Of course I could bring the boat's potty and put it in the tent,
but personally, the tent aint big enough for me and the potty!

(*chortle*)(*chortle*)

G.R. Patterson III
December 25th 04, 03:40 AM
Blanche wrote:
>
> Of course I could bring the boat's potty and put it in the tent,
> but personally, the tent aint big enough for me and the potty!

You could get a second tent just for the potty.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

Jay Honeck
December 25th 04, 01:58 PM
> You could get a second tent just for the potty.

Shoot, the farthest I've had to walk to a potty in the North 40 is about 100
yards.

And they usually smell like Pina Coladas -- not like the old days, that's
for sure!

Sleeping in the dorms at OSH is like kissing your sister. You're "almost"
doing Oshkosh -- but it's just not right.

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jack Allison
December 25th 04, 05:44 PM
We did the dorms this year. Only problem was we chose Marion College
and didn't get a car. Result: $20 round trip *per day* on the shuttle.
Actually, I like camping on the field better anyway. We thought Dad
would be more comfortable in the dorms this year. If I choose the dorms
again, I'd definitely go with something in Oshkosh.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL, IA Student, airplane partnership student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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RST Engineering
December 25th 04, 09:31 PM
Sonny, I was bunking it in the dorms before you were an aviator apprentice
third class.

{;-)


Jim




>
> Sleeping in the dorms at OSH is like kissing your sister. You're "almost"
> doing Oshkosh -- but it's just not right.

Jay Honeck
December 26th 04, 02:31 AM
> Sonny, I was bunking it in the dorms before you were an aviator apprentice
> third class.

Sorry, Jim -- it just ain't right.

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

john smith
December 26th 04, 03:33 AM
Jim just wants to be closer to the parties.
There is one every night in one of the dorms or another.
Why eat when you can drink!

Jay Honeck wrote:
>>Sonny, I was bunking it in the dorms before you were an aviator apprentice
>>third class.

> Sorry, Jim -- it just ain't right.
> ;-)

Morgans
December 26th 04, 05:07 AM
"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> Sonny, I was bunking it in the dorms before you were an aviator apprentice
> third class.
>
> {;-)
>
>
> Jim

But... You didn't get to wake up to the sound of "yodeling", of hear the
first departures of the day as your natural alarm clock!

Different strokes.....live and let live!
--
Jim in NC

Jay Honeck
December 26th 04, 02:17 PM
> Jim just wants to be closer to the parties.
> There is one every night in one of the dorms or another.
> Why eat when you can drink!

Well, that's pretty much the way it is at our campsite, too!

:-)

It's funny -- Mary and I realized a few years ago that we actually fly LESS
during Oshkosh than normal. It's the only week of the year where we fly
in, park, and never move the plane again for 6 or 7 days.

We're too busy eating, drinking, socializing, and drooling on all the other
planes to even think about actually flying!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

December 26th 04, 06:20 PM
Peter MacPherson wrote:
> Do the dorms have AC? Otherwise it might get pretty hot. I've stayed
> overnight at dorms on bike rides and with no AC it was miserable.
> Now I always use a tent, and always have plenty of AC...... <g>.

I stayed in the dorms once. That was the year it was 100+
every day and the grass was all brown. Yes, it was miserable.
The only way to get air circulation (had no fan) was to open
both the window and door to the hallway - and didn't want to
sleep in that condition. I also found it impossible to get
any service (like chnaging the bed linen from the previous
occupants [I came along at mid-week]. Never again.

David Johnson

Dan Luke
December 27th 04, 10:34 PM
"Jay Honeck" wrote:
> Rolling out on Rwy 27, the controller had us exit at the next taxiway

Now THAT I'd like to have seen!

(Sorry, couldn't resist. Nice post, Jay.)
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Dan
C-172RG at BFM

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