View Full Version : Larger Cirrus Design Aircraft?
Will
January 3rd 05, 02:41 AM
Has Cirrus said anything regarding plans for a future aircraft
that is larger? I would really like to see an aircraft from
them that seats six or eight passengers.
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Will
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john smith
January 4th 05, 12:53 PM
Their first aircraft was a six-seat pusher.
Will wrote:
> Has Cirrus said anything regarding plans for a future aircraft
> that is larger? I would really like to see an aircraft from
> them that seats six or eight passengers.
Dave Stadt
January 4th 05, 02:53 PM
"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> Their first aircraft was a six-seat pusher.
>
> Will wrote:
> > Has Cirrus said anything regarding plans for a future aircraft
> > that is larger? I would really like to see an aircraft from
> > them that seats six or eight passengers.
It was barely a 6 seat. Now with heavier engines which will need more fuel
who knows what they will deliver.
john smith
January 4th 05, 06:38 PM
According to James Fallows in his book, the Klapmeier brothers were
exploring a jet early on. Then Eclipse came along and stole their
thunder. They still have growth plans, they just aren't telling what
they are.
> "john smith" > wrote in message
>>Their first aircraft was a six-seat pusher.
>>Will wrote:
>>>Has Cirrus said anything regarding plans for a future aircraft
>>>that is larger? I would really like to see an aircraft from
>>>them that seats six or eight passengers.
Dave Stadt wrote:
> It was barely a 6 seat. Now with heavier engines which will need more fuel
> who knows what they will deliver.
Peter Duniho
January 4th 05, 07:56 PM
"Dave Stadt" > wrote in message
m...
> "john smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Their first aircraft was a six-seat pusher.
>
> It was barely a 6 seat. Now with heavier engines which will need more
> fuel
> who knows what they will deliver.
Your reply seems to imply that you're talking about existing "very light
jet" designs in the works, possibly the Eclipse (which did indeed switch
from a lighter Williams engine to a heavier one, Pratt & Whitney if I
recall).
John's reply was obviously referring to the single-engine, composite
kit-plane that Cirrus produced prior to getting into the certificated
airplane business. Here's one photo:
http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Peterson/3533.htm
If I recall, it was actually a five-seat design, intended for a 300hp
engine. Of course, each builder would be free to modify those
specifications as they saw fit, but as designed the airplane worked
reasonably well.
I've always been a little disappointed they didn't go into production with
the VK-30, but a) their current designs are certainly more marketable, and
b) they may even be technically superior (if I recall, there were issues
with the prop drive shaft, as well as engine cooling).
Pete
Dave Stadt
January 4th 05, 10:10 PM
"Peter Duniho" > wrote in message
...
> "Dave Stadt" > wrote in message
> m...
> > "john smith" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Their first aircraft was a six-seat pusher.
> >
> > It was barely a 6 seat. Now with heavier engines which will need more
> > fuel
> > who knows what they will deliver.
>
> Your reply seems to imply that you're talking about existing "very light
> jet" designs in the works, possibly the Eclipse (which did indeed switch
> from a lighter Williams engine to a heavier one, Pratt & Whitney if I
> recall).
>
> John's reply was obviously referring to the single-engine, composite
> kit-plane that Cirrus produced prior to getting into the certificated
> airplane business. Here's one photo:
> http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Peterson/3533.htm
>
> If I recall, it was actually a five-seat design, intended for a 300hp
> engine. Of course, each builder would be free to modify those
> specifications as they saw fit, but as designed the airplane worked
> reasonably well.
>
> I've always been a little disappointed they didn't go into production with
> the VK-30, but a) their current designs are certainly more marketable, and
> b) they may even be technically superior (if I recall, there were issues
> with the prop drive shaft, as well as engine cooling).
>
> Pete
Oops, yes I was thinking of the Eclipse.
Ken Ibold
January 5th 05, 02:36 PM
When I have pushed several Cirrus reps on this issue, they smile and say,
"Alan has four kids. What do YOU think?"
"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> According to James Fallows in his book, the Klapmeier brothers were
> exploring a jet early on. Then Eclipse came along and stole their thunder.
> They still have growth plans, they just aren't telling what they are.
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