Anyone else got "The Cold"?

[Jay Honeck]

Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with no
sign of it returning.

I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every 90
minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep Mary
up all night.

Flying has been completely out of the question.

At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
here for the last month.

Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[[email protected]]

Jay --

Sounds like what was going around the NY-NJ area about a month or two
ago. Nice to know that our region is back in the exporting business!
You'll probably get a shot, so remember to drop 'em and smile.

AJ


Jay Honeck wrote:
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it.
I
> lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving
it,
> until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!),
with no
> sign of it returning.
>
> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up
every 90
> minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that
keep Mary
> up all night.
>
> Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today.
(Who, no
> doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots
of
> sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in
our
> school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves
around
> here for the last month.
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

[C J Campbell]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53...
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it.

Good grief, Jay! Maybe you should stay off the news group for a little
while. You don't want to expose all of us to whatever you have! :-)

[John T]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?

Whatever you do, don't bring it East... :)

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
http://www.pocketgear.com/products_search.asp?developerid=4415
____________________

[Richard Russell]

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:11:43 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
>lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
>until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with no
>sign of it returning.
>
>I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every 90
>minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep Mary
>up all night.
>
>Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
>At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
>doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
>sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
>school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
>here for the last month.
>
>Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?

I thought a Pathfinder was a low-winger. Are you telling me that a
low-wing pilot is going to the doctor for a cold? My supposed
understanding of the natural order of things has been shattered.
(Just in case this cold has put you on edge or muted your sense of
humor, this is all in jest :) Hope you feel better soon and get back
in the air.
Rich Russell

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:11:43 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote in
<zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53>::

> me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
>sleep,

Don't bother with the aspirin unless you have a fever.

Consider also:
1. Gargle hot saturated solution of salt water often
2. Mega doses of vitamin C and multi
3. Don't swallow phlegm; blow and expectorate
4. Rest at every opportunity
5. Eat three well balanced meals daily

If it is a virus, your immune system is going to have to do the
healing work. Give it every advantage you can to overcome the
infection.

Of course, if you haven't been doing the above, a bacterial infection
may have begun. If you get strep throat, it's time for an amoxicillin
Rx.

Quarantine yourself from contact with others, please.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?

Nothing here. Yet.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

[Dave Stadt]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53...
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
> lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
> until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with
no
> sign of it returning.
>
> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every
90
> minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep
Mary
> up all night.
>
> Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
> doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
> sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
> school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
> here for the last month.
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"


Just getting over it. It has definitely been going around here.

[Paul kgyy]

A friend discovered that his similar symptoms were actually a form of
pneumonia - good luck.

[William W. Plummer]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
> lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
> until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with no
> sign of it returning.
>
> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every 90
> minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep Mary
> up all night.
>
> Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
> doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
> sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
> school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
> here for the last month.
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?

A caller to a local radio station (Lowell, MA) was complaining about it.
Because flu shots are now available to those 50 and older, I'll be
going to a clinic on Thursday for one. The guy on the next treadmill to
me in the gym was coughing every 12 seconds, so I decided to stay away
if possible. In fact, staying out of crowds in general is probably a
good idea. Whether you get sick depends on exposure, transfer
percents, and your resistance. Pay attention to all of these. Good
health and good luck to you!



______________________________________________
Bill Plummer @ N42 34.623 W071 21.607

[Dan Luke]

It's been raging around here since before Christmas.

I saw it coming and started eating zinc + vitamin C lozenges before I got it,
so my symptoms haven't been as bad as others around me that have had it. It
has lasted longer than most colds, though: I'm on my eighth day today.
--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

[John Harlow]

> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?

Garlic is a great preventative; if you eat enough no one will get close
enough to you to give you their infection.

[BTIZ]

what ever it is... keep it in IOWA...

get well soon
BT

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53...
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
> lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
> until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with
> no sign of it returning.
>
> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every
> 90 minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep
> Mary up all night.
>
> Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
> doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
> sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
> school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
> here for the last month.
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Peter MacPherson]

Yep, I'm in the Boston area and I have it. It's like a nasty flu. First
time I've been so congested it actually causes ear aches. About
3/4 of my family has it also.



"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53...
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
> lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
> until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with
> no sign of it returning.
>
> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every
> 90 minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep
> Mary up all night.
>
> Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
> doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
> sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
> school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
> here for the last month.
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Stan Prevost]

Yeah, and I spend three days in the hospital because of it! I let it go too
long and didn't observe my physician's Three-Day Rule.



"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53...
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
> lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
> until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with
> no sign of it returning.
>
> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every
> 90 minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep
> Mary up all night.
>
> Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
> doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
> sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
> school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
> here for the last month.
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[RST Engineering]

Gail caught it flying the Northwest torch to Baltimore and brought it back
to California in the middle of December.

You are correct, that cold is a crystal witch.

Jim



"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53...
>>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?
> --

[Jim Fisher]

"Dan Luke" > wrote in message
...
> It's been raging around here since before Christmas.
>
> I saw it coming and started eating zinc + vitamin C lozenges before I got
> it,
> so my symptoms haven't been as bad as others around me that have had it.
> It
> has lasted longer than most colds, though: I'm on my eighth day today.

I got it over Thanksgiving. Got it bad. Got it so bad that I quit smoking,
even. Yup, it's been 7 weeks since I had a ciggy.

Anyway, a few days later, the wife started getting the same scratchy-throat
symptoms. I went to the local pharmacy and got her some zinc lozenges. She
sucked them as prescribed and, except for feeling a little "out of touch"
for one day, the scratchy throat was almost all she felt.

Bottom line is that I am now a zinc convert and have a supply handy for the
next symptom I feel.

--
Jim Fisher

[Jim Fisher]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
> 3. Don't swallow phlegm; blow and expectorate

I've always know this but hardly ever heed it. Why, exactly, is this
necessary?

--
Jim Fisher

[Jim Burns]

Crap. There goes my flyin plans for this weekend. We were looking for a
place to fly to and thought we'd head to Iowa for a visit.

Get well soon!
Jim

[Christopher Brian Colohan]

"Jay Honeck" > writes:
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?

I have relatives from California to Prince Edward Island who are
suffering from this cold -- not just an Iowa thing.

Chris
--
Chris Colohan Email: PGP: finger
Web: www.colohan.com Phone: (412)268-4751

[john smith]

Got it a two-weeks before Christmas. Lots of head congestion, scratchy
throat is the initial symptom. Took antihistimine for three days (days
3-5) at night before bed so I could breath while I slept. That knocked
it down. Completely gone by day eight.

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:41:22 -0600, "Jim Fisher"
> wrote in
>::

>"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
>> 3. Don't swallow phlegm; blow and expectorate
>
>I've always know this but hardly ever heed it. Why, exactly, is this
>necessary?

This is a personal theory. Everyone knows, that colds are spread by
airborne droplets. If the object is to rid the body of virus instead
of retaining it, than it only makes sense.

[[email protected]]

Jay,
I hope that you would feel better soon. Mary is right in insisting
that you see a doctor. A nasty cold or flu can weaken your immune
system making you susceptible to pneumonia. I learned it the hard way
about this time last year.. I had been in perfect health with nary a
cold, flu or taking a sick day in over ten years. Ironically, I took
the flu shot last year and ended up getting a terrible flu (wrong flu
vaccine type) for over a week. I then picked up a really bad pneumonia
which took me off work for several weeks. Had always thought that
pneumonia only struck old and weak people. Here I was, in perfect
health, doing everything right (belong to a rowing club, go to the gym
everyday, eating only the right foods, taking vitamins etc.) and yet I
was nearby killed by those little antibiotic-resistant bugs. It took
me several months to regain my strength. So be extra careful and get
plenty of rest even after your recovery.
Hai

[NW_PILOT]

Sounds like the bug I had June of 2003 ago, go to the doc and get some chest
photos see what's up it can get really bad to ware you can be coughing up
blood then will lead to spasms and a collapsed lung, The doc will prescribe
you something to ease the pain & if it's bacterial infection not viral an
antibiotic will be prescribed. "I prefer zithromax a Pfizer product it is
expensive 8 times more than standard penicillin but is only used for about
6-10 days instead of 20-30 days".

But go to your doc and get it checked out ASAP.


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53...
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
> lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
> until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with
no
> sign of it returning.
>
> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every
90
> minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep
Mary
> up all night.
>
> Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
> doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
> sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
> school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
> here for the last month.
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Blueskies]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message news:zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53...
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving
> it. Mary *was* loving it, until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with no sign of it
> returning.
>
> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every 90 minutes or so when I lay down, sending me
> into coughing fits that keep Mary up all night.
>
> Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids,
> take aspirin, get lots of sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our school district, this
> bug has been knocking people down in droves around here for the last month.
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

I have it, just getting over it, been going on for days (5?) and I was pretty much staying the same. Finally went to the
doctor yesterday and he prescribed Doxycycline Hyclate (antibiotic?) which is knocking it down quite well. I haven't
been sick like this ever as far as I can remember. Lotsa liquids, salt water gargle, sleep and eating and am feeling
better today....
--
Dan D.
http://www.ameritech.net/users/ddevillers/start.html


..

[Peter Duniho]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> This is a personal theory. Everyone knows, that colds are spread by
> airborne droplets. If the object is to rid the body of virus instead
> of retaining it, than it only makes sense.

Sneezing, coughing, etc. is not the body's attempt to "rid itself of the
virus". They are a reaction to the irritation caused by the body killing
virus and virus-infected cells. Live virus does get expelled, of course,
but it's not through that process that the body actually defeats the virus.

Furthermore, viruses are specialized in the cells that they infect. A
respiratory virus isn't going to get anywhere in the GI tract, except out
the other end (and probably dead by then, though it's hard to say...some
viruses are pretty resilient).

As for your other points, mostly valid except that I'd suggest that aspirin
is a fine pain reliever too. It's not just for fevers (though, we don't use
aspirin in our household at all...acetaminophen and ibuprofen are our pain
relievers of choice, using the former when fever is also involved). There's
not much evidence that salt water gargles or huge doses of vitamins actually
help, but they won't hurt either (and the salt water may well soothe your
symptoms).

Rest, lots of fluids, and proper nutrition are still the gold standard for
basic cold virus recovery.

Pete

[Jim Fisher]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message

> This is a personal theory. Everyone knows, that colds are spread by
> airborne droplets. If the object is to rid the body of virus instead
> of retaining it, than it only makes sense.

Well, I usually spit it into a hanky and chase my boy with it. Don't know
if that's good for the boy but it always makes me feel batter.

--
Jim Fisher

[Dan Engleman]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53...
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
> lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
> until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with
> no sign of it returning.
>


The bug is alive and well in Sherman, TX.

I'm just now getting over it after about 4 weeks. The first couple of weeks
I didn't feel terrible, just was mostly mute.
Then the hacking cough came which reminded me of many years ago when I
smoked 3 packs a day (been clean for about 14 years now).

Now just a little coughing.

Nyquill worked best for me to rest at night.


Dan

[Jay Honeck]

> Yeah, and I spend three days in the hospital because of it! I let it go
> too long and didn't observe my physician's Three-Day Rule.

Dang. What's the "three day rule"?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Crap. There goes my flyin plans for this weekend. We were looking for a
> place to fly to and thought we'd head to Iowa for a visit.

Well, the weekend is a long ways off.

Heck, I might even be able to make more than a raspy, wheezing squeak by
then...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> I then picked up a really bad pneumonia
> which took me off work for several weeks.

Wow, Hai, that's incredible. Glad you came through it okay.

And to all you other guys and gals out there suffering with this bug --
misery loves company! Let's all get together -- the first shot of Nyquil
is on me...

From my doctor: The good news is, I don't have pneumonia. The bad news is,
he has diagnosed something called "bacterial bronchitis" -- which is almost
as bad. (Incidentally, speaking of phlegm, he diagnosed it as a bacterial
infection by the brownish/yellow color of what I was coughing up. Pretty
much the consistency of rubber cement.)

Being bacterial, however, it apparently responds well to antibiotics -- so,
he prescribed 500 mg of Biaxin twice a day. He also told me NOT to speak
under any circumstances (ha!) in order to get my voice back, and to "take it
easy"... (Double ha!)

We'll see how it goes. We've got a major winter storm bearing down on us,
so I doubt I'll be "taking it easy" anytime soon...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Viperdoc]

Jay:

We had a rash of people with similar symptoms here in Southeast Wisconsin.
As a physician, I think it is likely that you will:

1. Get better
2. Get worse, then get better
3. Stay the same for a while and then get better.

Regarding antibiotics, if you take antibiotics it is likely that you will
get better in around five days. If you decide not to take antibiotics, the
cold will probably run its course in around five days.

Seriously, it is possible to develop a secondary bacterial pneumonia over a
viral pneumonia, or you could also get a mycoplasma pneumonia, and these
would likely require antibiotics. Since your symptoms are bad enough to
complain the NG, it sounds like a trip to the MD may be worthwhile. As a
group we're not all that bad.

Good luck.

JN
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zuxCd.73156$k25.18664@attbi_s53...
> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
> lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
> until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with
> no sign of it returning.
>
> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every
> 90 minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep
> Mary up all night.
>
> Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
> doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
> sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
> school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
> here for the last month.
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Jim Fisher]

More than you ever want to know about snot:

http://www.docflash.com/phlegm.html

.. . . But an interesting read and may provide valuable relief to some of
y'all who are currently aflicted.

--
Jim Fisher

[Dave]

Nope...

It is in NB, Canada as well...

I have been sick all year.... (2005) :)

Dave


On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:11:43 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
>lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
>until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with no
>sign of it returning.
>
>I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every 90
>minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep Mary
>up all night.
>
>Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
>At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
>doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
>sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
>school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
>here for the last month.
>
>Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?

[569]

Have had the killer cold for 10 ten, spend 3 full days in bed sleeping
and NOT eating. I am back at work now, still congested and tired. I
haven't been sick like this in a good 10 years.

I live in CT.

[Scott D.]

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:46:06 -0600, "Jim Fisher"
> wrote:

>More than you ever want to know about snot:
>
>http://www.docflash.com/phlegm.html
>
>. . . But an interesting read and may provide valuable relief to some of
>y'all who are currently aflicted.

Whats sad is you knew that the information about snot was there....

Scott D.
Scott D

To email remove spamcatcher

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote

> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it.

BTDT

> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every
90
> minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep
Mary
> up all night.

Expectorant cough syrip

> Flying has been completely out of the question.

I feel you pain :-(

> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today.

Mine turned into a rip-roaring sinus infection after about a week, so
antibiotics may be in order. Make sure the doc checks for that, although
I'm sure he/she will.

> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?

My sister is a doc, and she says it is going big time, here in NC. Expect
around three to six weeks of it. :-(

--
Jim in NC

[Morgans]

"Jim Fisher" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
> > 3. Don't swallow phlegm; blow and expectorate
>
> I've always know this but hardly ever heed it. Why, exactly, is this
> necessary?
>
> --
> Jim Fisher

You want to get rid of it, plus the factor that some of the swallowed stuff
does not get swallowed, but will slowly run down into the lungs again, where
you don't want it.
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans]

"Jim Fisher" > wrote
>
> Bottom line is that I am now a zinc convert and have a supply handy for
the
> next symptom I feel.

I'm a believer, too, but you have to catch it early, I have found.
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans]

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> Got it a two-weeks before Christmas. Lots of head congestion, scratchy
> throat is the initial symptom. Took antihistimine for three days (days
> 3-5) at night before bed so I could breath while I slept. That knocked
> it down. Completely gone by day eight.

If it gets going good, with lots of slime, you don't want to dry it up with
antihistamines. You need to let it flow, so you can get rid of it, by
coughing it up.
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans]

"Viperdoc" > wrote in message
...
> Jay:
>
>
> Regarding antibiotics, if you take antibiotics it is likely that you will
> get better in around five days. If you decide not to take antibiotics, the
> cold will probably run its course in around five days.
>

I tried for about two weeks to go without antibiotics, and it was getting
worse. After about a week of amoxicillin, I'm starting to feel better.
--
Jim in NC

[john smith]

It never made it into my chest.
It stayed in my sinus', so I had a chance to dry it out.

> "john smith" > wrote in message
>>Got it a two-weeks before Christmas. Lots of head congestion, scratchy
>>throat is the initial symptom. Took antihistimine for three days (days
>>3-5) at night before bed so I could breath while I slept. That knocked
>>it down. Completely gone by day eight.

Morgans wrote:
> If it gets going good, with lots of slime, you don't want to dry it up with
> antihistamines. You need to let it flow, so you can get rid of it, by
> coughing it up.

[Dan Luke]

"Jim Fisher" wrote:
> I got it over Thanksgiving. Got it bad. Got it so bad that I quit
> smoking, even. Yup, it's been 7 weeks since I had a ciggy.

Attaboy, Jim! Good luck with staying off the evil weed; I know it's
tough.

> Bottom line is that I am now a zinc convert and have a supply handy
> for the next symptom I feel.

Yep. I'm highly skeptical of claims for herbal remedies and dietary
supplements, but zinc has taken the edge off enough of my colds to make
me a believer. As Jim in NC said, you have to catch it early though.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

[Dave Stadt]

<Scott D.> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:46:06 -0600, "Jim Fisher"
> > wrote:
>
> >More than you ever want to know about snot:
> >
> >http://www.docflash.com/phlegm.html
> >
> >. . . But an interesting read and may provide valuable relief to some of
> >y'all who are currently aflicted.
>
> Whats sad is you knew that the information about snot was there....

That's snot true.


> Scott D.
> Scott D
>
> To email remove spamcatcher

[Cub Driver]

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:11:43 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every 90
>minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep Mary
>up all night.

Ask yr doc if an albuterol inhaler is indicated. I keep one around for
exercise-induced asthma, and it works wonders for softening coughs.

Sorry to hear it! I once got a sinus infection that manifested itself
as a head cold every time I got a chill etc (which of course included
every time I flew the Cub that winter) for a couple months. Then I was
about to fly to Colorado, so I went to the doc and whinged a bit. He
informed me that I had a sinus infection, prescribed a three-dollar
course of antibiotics, and voila! Cured. But it was an awful siege
while it lasted.

[10Squared]

I sure hope you don't have what my wife and I had last Fall. It lasted a
good 6 weeks and seemed to travel around from place to place (chest,
throat, sinuses, etc.). Antibiotics did no good, some kind of virus.

Take care,

Jim

Jay Honeck wrote:

> Man, I got this bug a week ago, and I've never seen anything like it. I
> lost my voice 6 days ago (The kids are loving it. Mary *was* loving it,
> until she discovered that she had to answer all of my phone calls!), with
> no sign of it returning.
>
> I've slept in my LazyBoy the last six nights, cuz my lungs fill up every
> 90 minutes or so when I lay down, sending me into coughing fits that keep
> Mary up all night.
>
> Flying has been completely out of the question.
>
> At Mary's insistence, I'm actually going to see a doctor today. (Who, no
> doubt, will tell me to drink lots of fluids, take aspirin, get lots of
> sleep, and charge me a hundred bucks...) According to friends in our
> school district, this bug has been knocking people down in droves around
> here for the last month.
>
> Anyone else infected, or is this an Iowa thing?

[Jay Honeck]

> Have had the killer cold for 10 ten, spend 3 full days in bed sleeping
> and NOT eating. I am back at work now, still congested and tired. I
> haven't been sick like this in a good 10 years.

Well, I don't feel so bad now. I've still never missed a day of work,
although I really haven't been able to actually *do* much of anything...

This marks my 8th day with this damned bug (6th without a voice, although I
can croak now). My appetite has not been affected, dammit -- and I've been
too tired to work out, so I've probably porked on a few pounds.

I need to fly. Badly. (Of course, the skies are dumping on us as I write
this. Another 4-6 inches is coming, so they say...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> As a physician, I think it is likely that you will:
>
> 1. Get better
> 2. Get worse, then get better
> 3. Stay the same for a while and then get better.

Thanks, Jim, for those words of wisdom. :-)

> Seriously, it is possible to develop a secondary bacterial pneumonia over
> a viral pneumonia, or you could also get a mycoplasma pneumonia, and these
> would likely require antibiotics. Since your symptoms are bad enough to
> complain the NG, it sounds like a trip to the MD may be worthwhile. As a
> group we're not all that bad.

Already did. He gave me biaxin, and said my infection was bacterial.
Personally, I think he's guessing and covering all of his bases...

But he DID charge me the hundred bucks!

> Good luck.

Mostly I just need my voice back to be able to function at the hotel. Do you
know anything about using a steroid spray for the vocal cords? I read
about it on the internet, but my doc will only prescribe steroids in an
"emergency".

(His definition of an emergency: When magician Harry Blackstone came to
town, and lost his voice before a performance. He gave Blackstone the
steroids, and voila! Just like magic, his voice returned...)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Sorry to hear it! I once got a sinus infection that manifested itself
> as a head cold every time I got a chill etc (which of course included
> every time I flew the Cub that winter) for a couple months. Then I was
> about to fly to Colorado, so I went to the doc and whinged a bit. He
> informed me that I had a sinus infection, prescribed a three-dollar
> course of antibiotics, and voila! Cured. But it was an awful siege
> while it lasted.

Three dollars! How long ago *was* this, Dan?

:-)

Shoot, just the co-pay on my antibiotic was twenty bucks!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Viperdoc]

Determination if an infection is viral or bacterial can be inferred by a
chest x-ray and more definitively by a sputum culture. In the absence of
these, the usual decision is whether you are honking up green or yellow
sputum, versus clear.

I don't know anything about oral steroid spray, but if you need any broken
bones fixed I would be glad to help.

Hope you feel better soon.

JN

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:gCVCd.76396$k25.26687@attbi_s53...
>> As a physician, I think it is likely that you will:
>>
>> 1. Get better
>> 2. Get worse, then get better
>> 3. Stay the same for a while and then get better.
>
> Thanks, Jim, for those words of wisdom. :-)
>
>> Seriously, it is possible to develop a secondary bacterial pneumonia over
>> a viral pneumonia, or you could also get a mycoplasma pneumonia, and
>> these would likely require antibiotics. Since your symptoms are bad
>> enough to complain the NG, it sounds like a trip to the MD may be
>> worthwhile. As a group we're not all that bad.
>
> Already did. He gave me biaxin, and said my infection was bacterial.
> Personally, I think he's guessing and covering all of his bases...
>
> But he DID charge me the hundred bucks!
>
>> Good luck.
>
> Mostly I just need my voice back to be able to function at the hotel. Do
> you know anything about using a steroid spray for the vocal cords? I
> read about it on the internet, but my doc will only prescribe steroids in
> an "emergency".
>
> (His definition of an emergency: When magician Harry Blackstone came to
> town, and lost his voice before a performance. He gave Blackstone the
> steroids, and voila! Just like magic, his voice returned...)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote

> Mostly I just need my voice back to be able to function at the hotel.

> Jay Honeck

A couple days on the antibiotic will bring the sinus infection under
control, and you voice back. Tell Mary that her joy of not hearing you will
be short lived. :-)

Antihistamine (the sleepy kind) will also help, as will a shot of whiskey
and honey)
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Honeck]

> Antihistamine (the sleepy kind) will also help, as will a shot of whiskey
> and honey)

I've found the best cough syrup, hand's down, is a liqueur called "Green
Chartreuse".

It's 110 proof, is made by Benedictine monks in France (hey -- what else is
there to do?), and makes me sleep like a baby! Being green, it even looks
like Nyquil!

Trouble is, my friends have taken a liking to it as well, and it's forty
bucks a bottle...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[G.R. Patterson III]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Trouble is, my friends have taken a liking to it as well, and it's forty
> bucks a bottle...

So go buy a king-size bottle of Nyquil, pour it down the drain, and refill with
your French brew. Then hide the Nyquil bottle.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

[Jay Honeck]

> So go buy a king-size bottle of Nyquil, pour it down the drain, and refill
> with
> your French brew. Then hide the Nyquil bottle.

Heeeey... You're a sneaky old cuss, George. Great idea!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Martin Hotze]

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:59:35 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

>> So go buy a king-size bottle of Nyquil, pour it down the drain, and refill
>> with your French brew. Then hide the Nyquil bottle.
>
>Heeeey... You're a sneaky old cuss, George. Great idea!

and with this solution you can also hide that you are using something
*gasp* ... French.

:-)

#m
--
Oh. God. What have we done.

[Jay Honeck]

> and with this solution you can also hide that you are using something
> *gasp* ... French.

I *have* found it deeply disturbing that I actually like something made by
the French.

I've been able to justify it thusly: St. Benedict was Italian. Therefore
the Benedictine monks who brew the wicked potion called Green Chartreuse
are, in fact, Italian, regardless of where they currently reside.

:-)

(BTW: My Dad discovered the stuff when he was stationed in France in World
War II. From the time I turned 21 until he died in 1993, he would bring
out a thimble-full of the stuff on special occasions. For some reason, even
though it tastes a lot like Jet-A, I learned to like the stuff.... Although
you can only take it in small doses. )
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Martin Hotze]

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:59:43 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

>> and with this solution you can also hide that you are using something
>> *gasp* ... French.
>
>I *have* found it deeply disturbing that I actually like something made by
>the French.

???

>I've been able to justify it thusly: St. Benedict was Italian. Therefore
>the Benedictine monks who brew the wicked potion called Green Chartreuse
>are, in fact, Italian, regardless of where they currently reside.

well ...

>:-)

the smiley helps. a bit.

>(BTW: My Dad discovered the stuff when he was stationed in France in World
>War II. From the time I turned 21 until he died in 1993, he would bring
>out a thimble-full of the stuff on special occasions. For some reason, even
>though it tastes a lot like Jet-A, I learned to like the stuff.... Although
>you can only take it in small doses. )

there are some things I have handy in similar situations ... they do
wonders.

#m
--
<http://www.terranova.net/content/images/goering.jpg>

[Jay Honeck]

> well ...
>
>>:-)
>
> the smiley helps. a bit.

Oh, hell, Martin. My mother's maiden name was "Errard" -- very French
Canadian. We can't run from our heritage...

Of course, the Errards were the smart ones, who actually left France...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Martin Hotze]

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:21:29 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

>> the smiley helps. a bit.
>
>Oh, hell, Martin.

*hehe*

> My mother's maiden name was "Errard" -- very French
>Canadian. We can't run from our heritage...

oh. an outing! :-)))

>Of course, the Errards were the smart ones, who actually left France...

rumors are that many had the option "hanging or America". :-))

>;-)

#m

--
<http://www.terranova.net/content/images/goering.jpg>

[Jay Honeck]

> rumors are that many had the option "hanging or America". :-))

Nah, that was Australia.

Although my very German great-great-great-grand-father left absolutely no
tracks leading back to the "old country"...

After extensive (and fruitless) research, I've come to the conclusion that
he was on the run.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Martin Hotze]

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:49:12 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

>> rumors are that many had the option "hanging or America". :-))
>
>Nah, that was Australia.
>

IBTD. Australia was a prison, sure.

>Although my very German great-great-great-grand-father left absolutely no
>tracks leading back to the "old country"...
>
>After extensive (and fruitless) research, I've come to the conclusion that
>he was on the run.

as so many others have been. this was not a good time ...

#m

--
<http://www.terranova.net/content/images/goering.jpg>

[Chris]

"Martin Hotze" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:49:12 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:
>
>>> rumors are that many had the option "hanging or America". :-))
>>
>>Nah, that was Australia.

The French were never sent to Australia, it was a British prison colony.

[RST Engineering]

I disagree: this was an absolutely EXCELLENT time for the fledgling USA.
We got the criminals, the dissidents, the outcasts of "society" who
crossbred with the prostitutes, the free thinkers, and the rebel outcasts.
What we got was the god-damndest melting pot of brainpower ever to grace the
face of God's earth, with the possible exception of the Mongol hordes that
invaded Europe some two thousand years before that impregnated Europe with
those sorts of genes.

Today we are melting Sikhs, Vietnamese, and probably (after last week's
events) Indonesians into that pot for an even better stew. Ukranians,
Russians, and the rest of the former USSR have been in the mix for a few
years and will contribute their genes to the USA swimming pool.

It is a good time. We are being revitalized, much unlike Europe. You ever
looked at Prince Charles? It was obvious that somebody in the Royal Family
KNEW somebody in the Royal Family.

Me? My native american great-grandmother (Mary Crow) married this damnable
ne'er-do-well Welch football player from Chicago, whose grandson married my
first generation German immigrant mother, who begat this poor son of a gun.
This combination produced a USC PhD in finance, a UC MS in history, and a
CalState BA in Physics/Math. Not bad for the European castoffs, is it?
Send 'em on over in droves, please.

Jim



>>After extensive (and fruitless) research, I've come to the conclusion that
>>he was on the run.
>
> as so many others have been. this was not a good time ...

[zatatime]

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 22:51:57 GMT, Martin Hotze
> wrote:

><http://www.terranova.net/content/images/goering.jpg>


Wow! Thanks for the education.

z

[Blueskies]

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message ...
>I disagree: this was an absolutely EXCELLENT time for the fledgling USA. We got the criminals, the dissidents, the
>outcasts of "society" who crossbred with the prostitutes, the free thinkers, and the rebel outcasts. What we got was
>the god-damndest melting pot of brainpower ever to grace the face of God's earth, with the possible exception of the
>Mongol hordes that invaded Europe some two thousand years before that impregnated Europe with those sorts of genes.
>
> Today we are melting Sikhs, Vietnamese, and probably (after last week's events) Indonesians into that pot for an even
> better stew. Ukranians, Russians, and the rest of the former USSR have been in the mix for a few years and will
> contribute their genes to the USA swimming pool.
>
> It is a good time. We are being revitalized, much unlike Europe. You ever looked at Prince Charles? It was obvious
> that somebody in the Royal Family KNEW somebody in the Royal Family.
>
> Me? My native american great-grandmother (Mary Crow) married this damnable ne'er-do-well Welch football player from
> Chicago, whose grandson married my first generation German immigrant mother, who begat this poor son of a gun. This
> combination produced a USC PhD in finance, a UC MS in history, and a CalState BA in Physics/Math. Not bad for the
> European castoffs, is it? Send 'em on over in droves, please.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>>>After extensive (and fruitless) research, I've come to the conclusion that
>>>he was on the run.
>>
>> as so many others have been. this was not a good time ...
>
>



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4104055.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3592905.stm

[G.R. Patterson III]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Although my very German great-great-great-grand-father left absolutely no
> tracks leading back to the "old country"...
>
> After extensive (and fruitless) research, I've come to the conclusion that
> he was on the run.

Robert Patterson arrived in 1747. We think he was on the losing side in the
attempt to restore the Stuarts to the throne in '45.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.