Sport pilot CFI??

[Robert M. Gary]

As a CFI, if I give training for a private applicant in a J-3, I'm
legal, but to give training for a sport pilot applicant I must get an
endorsement in my log book for that airplane and have 5 hrs PIC???


http://www.aopa.org/sportpilot/cfi_certification.pdf

Appropriate Category and Class Ratings in
LSA (5 hours PIC make and model within a "set" of
aircraft additional Category and Class Privileges Endorsed
in Logbook)

[BTIZ]

I do not believe this is correct.. this would only be the case if you were
only qualified to instruct at the sport pilot level as a Sport Pilot CFI.
Then you would need the 5hrs.. moving from one "sport pilot airplane" to
another.

FAR61, Subpart K, applies to instructors with Sport Pilot ratings, read
61.429, it states that as a FULL CFI, you can exercise the privileges of
61.413 (sport pilot cfi) without further showing of proficiency in the
aircraft category and class (airplane SEL), you can't go teach weight shift.

To teach in an additional category or class, glider or weight shift etc, you
need to follow 61.419.

As a FULL FLEDGED CFI, at the FULL COMMERCIAL AIRPLANE level, you can teach
a "sport pilot" applicant to the sport pilot level, following the guidance
in FAR 61 Subpart J, in a Light Sport Aircraft - Airplane (J3 Cub)

So, if I read this correctly, I can take an Airplane CFI, qualify him in
gliders at the SP level, and then qualify him to teach in gliders at the SP
level. But this same new SP CFI cannot fly or instruct in high performance
gliders, he is limited to LSA level gliders and he cannot instruct above the
SP Level. SGS 2-33, and SGS 1-26 examples. I am a Commercial rated Glider
CFI (FULL CFI).

I reviewed the pamphlet from AOPA and I reviewed FAR61 Subpart J and K, and
no where did I read the 5hr minimum PIC limitation.
Any one have any other thoughts on this?

BT

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> As a CFI, if I give training for a private applicant in a J-3, I'm
> legal, but to give training for a sport pilot applicant I must get an
> endorsement in my log book for that airplane and have 5 hrs PIC???
>
>
> http://www.aopa.org/sportpilot/cfi_certification.pdf
>
> Appropriate Category and Class Ratings in
> LSA (5 hours PIC make and model within a "set" of
> aircraft additional Category and Class Privileges Endorsed
> in Logbook)
>

[Robert M. Gary]

Interestingly, I just got the 2005 FARs. Under the priv's of a CFI (not
sport pilot) it lists all the certificates/ratings you can give
training for. Sport pilot is not one of them. 61.193

Also, I assume there will be a new AD 61-65D with all these new
endorsements>
-Robert

[BTIZ]

read it again Robert... my copy of 2005 FAR 61.193 says:
"authorized within limitations of the instructors rating (airplane, glider,
rotorcraft, instrument (my added)), to give instruction and endorsements
that are required for or related to:"
a) Student Certificate
b) Pilot Certificate
c) Flight Instructor
d) Ground Instructor
e) Aircraft rating
f) Instrument rating

So... para (b) does not specify , Recreational, Private, Commercial, or
Sport Pilot, it says Pilot Certificate.. and para (e) does not specify Light
Sport Aircraft... it says.. AIRCRAFT.. which means what ever the CFI holds a
rating for.

BT


"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Interestingly, I just got the 2005 FARs. Under the priv's of a CFI (not
> sport pilot) it lists all the certificates/ratings you can give
> training for. Sport pilot is not one of them. 61.193
>
> Also, I assume there will be a new AD 61-65D with all these new
> endorsements>
> -Robert
>

[Robert M. Gary]

Ah, I think you're right. Thanks!