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G.R. Patterson III
January 6th 05, 04:49 AM
The NY Times did a short story on this aircraft. Sounds like it will fill a need
if full-size versions work as expected. http://www.fanwing.com

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

Crazygaijin
January 6th 05, 06:17 AM
G.R. Patterson III wrote:
> The NY Times did a short story on this aircraft. Sounds like it will
fill a need
> if full-size versions work as expected. http://www.fanwing.com
>
> George Patterson
> The desire for safety stands against every great and noble
enterprise.

Alas, almost anything will fly at that scale and power to weight ratio:

http://www.netaxs.com/~mhmyers/cdjpgs/mower2.jpg
http://www.netaxs.com/~mhmyers/cdjpgs/witch.jpg

Etcetera.

tscottme
January 6th 05, 12:50 PM
"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
> The NY Times did a short story on this aircraft. Sounds like it will fill
a need
> if full-size versions work as expected. http://www.fanwing.com
>
> George Patterson
> The desire for safety stands against every great and noble
enterprise.

I'm still waiting for my 2-seat, $12k, 150kt kitplane that can be assembled
in an hour.

--

Scott

Denny
January 6th 05, 12:56 PM
Yup, another way to make a small fortune in the airplane business...
So, when they begin pressing you to become rich by investing in them,
run screaming for the exit...

BTW, I expect the single seat prototype to have some 'exciting' flight
characteristics<if it manages to stagger into the air>... I am not ging
to go into a diatribe on the physics of aerodynamic lift, but for those
who have an idea of how a wing generates lift (air pump) and how a golf
ball or tennis ball generates lift with back spin, then think of how
that spinning squirrel cage blower inside that 'wing' generates lift -
and picture the aircraft rolling inverted - Whooey baby! Aerobatic
it ain't gonna be...

Denny

John Harlow
January 6th 05, 02:07 PM
G.R. Patterson III wrote:
> The NY Times did a short story on this aircraft. Sounds like it will
> fill a need if full-size versions work as expected.
> http://www.fanwing.com

Even a helicopter has a chance of landing if the engine quits. I can't say
the same for this.

And it seems like a bird strike would quite likely be fatal for more than
just the bird.

I'll pass, thanks.

houstondan
January 6th 05, 07:01 PM
obviously, we have seen the future and this is it. all owners of fixed
wing, now-obsolete light aircraft should run, not walk, to dispose of
the soon-to-be-worthless craft as soon as possible. especially those in
the southeast texas area. more especially especially 2-seat 150hp
aerobatic craft. dump that bird immediately for whatever few dollars
you can get.

dan...just being helpful

G.R. Patterson III
January 6th 05, 08:05 PM
John Harlow wrote:
>
> Even a helicopter has a chance of landing if the engine quits. I can't say
> the same for this.

The inventor claims that it will make a safe descent (at a relatively steep
glide) as long as the rotor keeps turning. If the engine fails, the rotor must
be disconnected from the engine immediately and the nose lowered. Airflow then
keeps the rotor spinning. The situation is exactly the same as a helicopter.

> And it seems like a bird strike would quite likely be fatal for more than
> just the bird.

Quite possible. Of course, that's true of any aircraft, but this does appear to
be a bit more vulnerable.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

Allen
January 6th 05, 08:16 PM
"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
> The NY Times did a short story on this aircraft. Sounds like it will fill
a need
> if full-size versions work as expected. http://www.fanwing.com
>
> George Patterson
> The desire for safety stands against every great and noble
enterprise.

Where do the de-ice boots go?

Orval Fairbairn
January 6th 05, 10:12 PM
In article >,
"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote:

> The NY Times did a short story on this aircraft. Sounds like it will fill a
> need
> if full-size versions work as expected. http://www.fanwing.com
>
> George Patterson
> The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.


It looks as if the "inventor" has not given much thought to stability
and control (or drag, for that matter). Chalk it up there with moller.

C J Campbell
January 6th 05, 10:22 PM
"John Harlow" > wrote in message
...
> G.R. Patterson III wrote:
> > The NY Times did a short story on this aircraft. Sounds like it will
> > fill a need if full-size versions work as expected.
> > http://www.fanwing.com
>
> Even a helicopter has a chance of landing if the engine quits. I can't
say
> the same for this.
>
> And it seems like a bird strike would quite likely be fatal for more than
> just the bird.

If you hit a bird with that flying lawn mower you at least could have
shredded tweet.

<ducking and running for cover>

G.R. Patterson III
January 7th 05, 12:59 AM
C J Campbell wrote:
>
> If you hit a bird with that flying lawn mower you at least could have
> shredded tweet.

You're not doing your claim to have an excellent sense of humor any good with
this sort of behaviour.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

ET
January 7th 05, 02:50 AM
"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in
:

> The NY Times did a short story on this aircraft. Sounds like it will
> fill a need if full-size versions work as expected.
> http://www.fanwing.com
>
> George Patterson
> The desire for safety stands against every great and noble
> enterprise.

It won't make it for the same reason the large "lifting body" airliners
won't make it... it looks funny & people don't want to pay to fly in
something that's funny lookin'

ET

John Harlow
January 7th 05, 03:18 AM
> If you hit a bird with that flying lawn mower you at least could have
> shredded tweet.
>
> <ducking and running for cover>

And I suppose if a chicken came through the windscreen it really would be a
"cockpit".

Sorry, that was a fowl joke.

Morgans
January 7th 05, 04:28 AM
"John Harlow" > wrote in message
...
>
> > If you hit a bird with that flying lawn mower you at least could have
> > shredded tweet.
> >
> > <ducking and running for cover>
>
> And I suppose if a chicken came through the windscreen it really would be
a
> "cockpit".
>
> Sorry, that was a fowl joke.
>
****************
Oh no, I can see this thread is going to the birds.
--
Jim in NC

houstondan
January 7th 05, 05:27 AM
....so i'm just sitting here, minding my own business, readin the
airplane stuff when he comes up with :

shredded tweet
first time i've really laughed outloud in too long.


thx

dan

Blueskies
January 8th 05, 12:15 AM
"ET" > wrote in message ...
> "G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in
> :
>
>> The NY Times did a short story on this aircraft. Sounds like it will
>> fill a need if full-size versions work as expected.
>> http://www.fanwing.com
>>
>> George Patterson
>> The desire for safety stands against every great and noble
>> enterprise.
>
> It won't make it for the same reason the large "lifting body" airliners
> won't make it... it looks funny & people don't want to pay to fly in
> something that's funny lookin'
>
> ET


Spaceship One is pretty funny looking. Maybe charge a premium for the unique experience...

gatt
January 10th 05, 09:15 PM
"John Harlow" > wrote in message

> Even a helicopter has a chance of landing if the engine quits. I can't
say
> the same for this.

Parachutes. OTOH, it looks crazy to me, too. But they probably said that
about Orville and Wilbur.

-c

gatt
January 10th 05, 09:18 PM
"Allen" > wrote in message news:W0hDd.7511$

> Where do the de-ice boots go?

No need...it pulverizes the ice and spits out snow like a sno-cone machine.
For an additional fee, you could inject blue food dye (or fuel) to scare the
blue-ice conspiracy theorists.

=c

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