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I wonder how close the FAA and NTSB work together, one is after the
fact and usually a result of improper before the fact procedure.
My gripe is with the FAA, I know of a company that is submitting
flasified data, can I prove it...yes if I had access to several areas I
will never have access to. What does the FAA do about it now that they
know..they agree its a broken system but they are powerless to police
it...they have to wait until a pattern of accidents points to what I
have been trying to tell them for several months now. How many of us
have has forced landings that we don't care to report to our local FAA
office...yea yea I know the rules but so does the company producing oil
coolers in Ohio that ships oil coolers without proper corrosion
protection. Tell this to the guy that fly's the islands ingesting salt
air into his cowl that has to water ditch because he ran out of oil
when corrosion ate through the oil cooler...NTSB isn't goin to dive
3000 feet to investigate this one so they get away with another one and
just say "the paperwork submitted "appeared" to be in order.

[John T Lowry]

> wrote in message
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>I wonder how close the FAA and NTSB work together, one is after the
> fact and usually a result of improper before the fact procedure.
> My gripe is with the FAA, I know of a company that is submitting
> flasified data, can I prove it...yes if I had access to several areas
> I
> will never have access to. What does the FAA do about it now that
> they
> know..they agree its a broken system but they are powerless to police
> it...they have to wait until a pattern of accidents points to what I
> have been trying to tell them for several months now. How many of us
> have has forced landings that we don't care to report to our local FAA
> office...yea yea I know the rules but so does the company producing
> oil
> coolers in Ohio that ships oil coolers without proper corrosion
> protection. Tell this to the guy that fly's the islands ingesting salt
> air into his cowl that has to water ditch because he ran out of oil
> when corrosion ate through the oil cooler...NTSB isn't goin to dive
> 3000 feet to investigate this one so they get away with another one
> and
> just say "the paperwork submitted "appeared" to be in order.
>
It seems to me that, except in the case of air transport aircraft, the
NTSB is only interested in running through the most perfunctory
analysis. So I don't think you'll have much luck with them.

John Lowry
Flight Physics

[Dave S]

John T Lowry wrote:

>
> It seems to me that, except in the case of air transport aircraft, the
> NTSB is only interested in running through the most perfunctory
> analysis. So I don't think you'll have much luck with them.
>
> John Lowry
> Flight Physics
>
>
Or except in the case of... Celebreties... or politicians.. or son's
of dead presidents..

Dave

[Morgans]

> wrote

...yea yea I know the rules but so does the company producing oil
> coolers in Ohio that ships oil coolers without proper corrosion
> protection. Tell this to the guy that fly's the islands ingesting salt
> air into his cowl that has to water ditch because he ran out of oil
> when corrosion ate through the oil cooler...

Sounds like the sort of thing class action law suites are made for.
Advertise in some trade magazines, and see what kind of response you get.
--
Jim in NC

[Denny]

If you don't have "access" to the areas where the work is being done,
then you don't know what is being done - period - so, you really don't
know anything...
And being that the majority of the population of the USA lives along
the coasts, therefore the majority of oil coolers flying are exposed to
salt air... Not all of them have to fall into the ocean and sink 3000
feet, so failed oil coolers would have wound up on land and been
exposed to FSDO and NTSB investigators...
And the coating of the coolers is visible to the eye...
And one would think that the mechanic who has to sign off the 100 hour
and the annual inspections would see the corrosion long before it eats
a hole through the tubes...
While it is possible that the manufacturer is making false
certifications it is not probable, so why should we believe you?

Denny