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Peter R.
February 7th 05, 06:31 PM
Somehow I have misplaced my copy of the older JPI PC software that allows
me to download data from a JPI EDM-700 monitor to my laptop. I called JPI
for a replacement copy, but they no longer offer the older version. I was
told that the new version does not allow the data to be converted to Excel
format so it really does me no good.

Does anyone have a copy of the previous version of this software? If so, I
could really use your help, as I am breaking in a new engine and would
really like to download the data for more detailed, post-flight analysis.

My email is (remove the capital letter).

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Paul kgyy
February 7th 05, 08:24 PM
I have both the dos and windows version. Send me an e-mail at
and I'll return if you can accept files with exe
suffixes.

Peter R.
February 7th 05, 08:43 PM
Paul kgyy > wrote:

> I have both the dos and windows version. Send me an e-mail at
> and I'll return if you can accept files with exe
> suffixes.

Done. Thank you.

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February 7th 05, 08:58 PM
Peter R. wrote:
> Somehow I have misplaced my copy of the older JPI PC software that
allows
> me to download data from a JPI EDM-700 monitor to my laptop. I
called JPI
> for a replacement copy, but they no longer offer the older version.
I was
> told that the new version does not allow the data to be converted to
Excel
> format so it really does me no good.

I sent an email to JPI tech support asking why their software would
no longer support the export of data into a standard format that could
be used by other programs. The response was that their software now
performs every function that anyone would want, so there is no need to
be able to convert the data from their proprietary format.

Frankly, I'd expect such a ludicrous response like that from a second
rate software vendor, but not from an avionics hardware vendor. I
want a little flexibility in how I manipulate MY engine data.

I was 2 weeks away from buying an EDM-700 when I found out about
this. Now EI is getting my money.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

Paul kgyy
February 7th 05, 10:12 PM
I also asked them recently if they would produce a download process for
the Windows CE system, since more and more pilots are switching to
ipaqs with the demise of the Palm network. Same kind of response. I
have the JPI700 and like the equipment but sure don't like their
attitude.

Jon Woellhaf
February 7th 05, 10:42 PM
John Galban wrote, "... I was 2 weeks away from buying an EDM-700 when I
[received a ludicrous response from JPI tech support]. Now EI is getting my
money."

Is EI any better, I wonder?

Jon

Morgans
February 7th 05, 10:47 PM
"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I also asked them recently if they would produce a download process for
> the Windows CE system, since more and more pilots are switching to
> ipaqs with the demise of the Palm network. Same kind of response. I
> have the JPI700 and like the equipment but sure don't like their
> attitude.

JPI is a ridiculous company, from many points of view. (IMHO) There was a
boycott movement in the homebuilder's world a few years back, based on how
they sued a smaller company on grounds of copyright infringement, on what
most say was as sham of a suit. The smaller company was driven out of
business. (all this is from memory, but the basic idea is there)

Choose other people's products, when ever possible. Just an idea.

Any other people want to weigh in, on satisfaction, or dissatisfaction on
JPI?
--
Jim in NC

Morgans
February 7th 05, 10:47 PM
"Paul kgyy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I also asked them recently if they would produce a download process for
> the Windows CE system, since more and more pilots are switching to
> ipaqs with the demise of the Palm network. Same kind of response. I
> have the JPI700 and like the equipment but sure don't like their
> attitude.

JPI is a ridiculous company, from many points of view. (IMHO) There was a
boycott movement in the homebuilder's world a few years back, based on how
they sued a smaller company on grounds of copyright infringement, on what
most say was as sham of a suit. The smaller company was driven out of
business. (all this is from memory, but the basic idea is there)

Choose other people's products, when ever possible. Just an idea.

Any other people want to weigh in, on satisfaction, or dissatisfaction on
JPI?
--
Jim in NC

Peter R.
February 8th 05, 12:43 AM
Morgans > wrote:

> Any other people want to weigh in, on satisfaction, or dissatisfaction on
> JPI?

Well, strictly from a utility PoV, I am *extremely* happy with the JPI
EDM-700 engine monitor. Additionally, I have had to call JPI twice with
some minor tech support questions and the reps with whom I spoke were very
friendly and happy to help.

Tonight I just got back from an hour-long Gami lean test flight and the JPI
engine monitor was truly an incredible asset in performing this test. With
it I have learned that the engine roughness I am experiencing at optimal
lean of peak (Tornado Alley turbo-normalized IO-520) is not a result of
clogged or improperly calibrated Gami Injectors on this newly rebuilt
engine.

This is one very valuable piece of equipment.

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Peter







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Dan Luke
February 8th 05, 12:36 PM
"Morgans" wrote:
> JPI is a ridiculous company, from many points of view. (IMHO) There
> was a
> boycott movement in the homebuilder's world a few years back, based on
> how
> they sued a smaller company on grounds of copyright infringement, on
> what
> most say was as sham of a suit. The smaller company was driven out of
> business. (all this is from memory, but the basic idea is there)
>
> Choose other people's products, when ever possible. Just an idea.
>
> Any other people want to weigh in, on satisfaction, or dissatisfaction
> on
> JPI?

The other company is still in business.

I have been extremely pleased with my JPI engine monitor and with
support from the company. Besides their lawsuit against EI, why are
they ridiculous, in your opinion?
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

M.E. Borner
February 8th 05, 05:41 PM
There was a similar thread to this several weeks ago. It all quieted
down after some advised the group that the data can be transferred to a
spreadsheet using the current version of the JPI program. All you have
to do is display the data. It can then be cut and pasted into any other
program, such as Excel. A little tedious but still provides the
functionality you would want from the spreadsheet.


wrote:
> Peter R. wrote:
> > Somehow I have misplaced my copy of the older JPI PC software that
> allows
> > me to download data from a JPI EDM-700 monitor to my laptop. I
> called JPI
> > for a replacement copy, but they no longer offer the older version.
> I was
> > told that the new version does not allow the data to be converted
to
> Excel
> > format so it really does me no good.
>
> I sent an email to JPI tech support asking why their software would
> no longer support the export of data into a standard format that
could
> be used by other programs. The response was that their software now
> performs every function that anyone would want, so there is no need
to
> be able to convert the data from their proprietary format.
>
> Frankly, I'd expect such a ludicrous response like that from a
second
> rate software vendor, but not from an avionics hardware vendor. I
> want a little flexibility in how I manipulate MY engine data.
>
> I was 2 weeks away from buying an EDM-700 when I found out about
> this. Now EI is getting my money.
>
> John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

Jack Cunniff
February 14th 05, 08:58 PM
"Jon Woellhaf" > writes:

>John Galban wrote, "... I was 2 weeks away from buying an EDM-700 when I
>[received a ludicrous response from JPI tech support]. Now EI is getting my
>money."

>Is EI any better, I wonder?

>Jon

EI lets you download your data into a .CSV (comma-separated text file
which you can open with Excel, or any other spreadsheet program).

One thing you can do with that data is to use EI's data conversion
program so that you can import your data into EGView from www.EGTrends.com
..

I believe that JPI thinks that their analysis software is better than
EGView, but for my money, any company that forces me to view MY data in
their program isn't the kind of business I want to work with.

EI and EGView got my money, and their tech support groups were both very
responsive to my "new user" queries.

-Jack

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