Backup AI (using solid state gyro) for portable

[Andrew Gideon]

Can anyone provide a pointer to some hardware/software usable on a portable
computer (Microsoft's CE, or perhaps even XP on a small system) that
provides a backup AI solution using "solid state gyros" (accelerometers?
altitude heading reference system?). I'm looking for something that I can
run on a system also running Airgator's NavAir product.

Bluetooth-speaking would be especially interesting.

Thanks...

Andrew

[john smith]

There is already a product available, but I do not recall the name.
The "box" sits on the floor under seat (or where ever available) and
feeds a display.

Andrew Gideon wrote:
> Can anyone provide a pointer to some hardware/software usable on a portable
> computer (Microsoft's CE, or perhaps even XP on a small system) that
> provides a backup AI solution using "solid state gyros" (accelerometers?
> altitude heading reference system?). I'm looking for something that I can
> run on a system also running Airgator's NavAir product.
>
> Bluetooth-speaking would be especially interesting.
>
> Thanks...
>
> Andrew
>

[Andrew Gideon]

john smith wrote:

> There is already a product available, but I do not recall the name.
> The "box" sits on the floor under seat (or where ever available) and
> feeds a display.

I know that there's something available. I've played with the add-on to The
Cheetah product (Echo Flight?), and I know ControlVision has one. But
those are integrated (more or less {8^) solutions. I'm trying to learn
more about ControlVision's (AnywhereAI), but I'm wondering what else is out
there.

BTW, does anyone happen to know if Cheetah is WxWorx yet?

- Andrew

[BTIZ]

A friend has a Ring Laser Gyro installed in his glider.. provides Attitude
data to a PDA display. I think it was built by Garmin.. I'll check on it.

BT

"Andrew Gideon" > wrote in message
online.com...
> Can anyone provide a pointer to some hardware/software usable on a
> portable
> computer (Microsoft's CE, or perhaps even XP on a small system) that
> provides a backup AI solution using "solid state gyros" (accelerometers?
> altitude heading reference system?). I'm looking for something that I can
> run on a system also running Airgator's NavAir product.
>
> Bluetooth-speaking would be especially interesting.
>
> Thanks...
>
> Andrew
>

[jc]

Windows ?????????????? for an AI or any critical application

Russian roulette would be much cheaper

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[MC]

Andrew Gideon wrote:

> Can anyone provide a pointer to some hardware/software usable on a portable
> computer (Microsoft's CE, or perhaps even XP on a small system) that
> provides a backup AI solution using "solid state gyros" (accelerometers?
> altitude heading reference system?). I'm looking for something that I can
> run on a system also running Airgator's NavAir product.
>
> Bluetooth-speaking would be especially interesting.

Your really don't want much ! <g>

Anyway.., make sure you're siting down and look at ;
http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/
and
http://www.xbow.com/


Actually, I've recently started to make my own pseudo AHI,
(mostly as an microprocessor exercise), but also to provide
a backup to the vacuumn-driven DI and AH.

A couple of dual-axis accelerometers, a GPS feed,
3-axis magnetic sensors, and some maths...
easy! (he says with a big <g>)
Initially I'll use a laptop and later a PDA.

[Andrew Gideon]

MC wrote:

> Andrew Gideon wrote:
>
>> Can anyone provide a pointer to some hardware/software usable on a
>> portable computer (Microsoft's CE, or perhaps even XP on a small system)
>> that provides a backup AI solution using "solid state gyros"
>> (accelerometers?
>> altitude heading reference system?). I'm looking for something that I
>> can run on a system also running Airgator's NavAir product.
>>
>> Bluetooth-speaking would be especially interesting.
>
> Your really don't want much ! <g>

Nope. I'm just that kind of guy.

> Anyway.., make sure you're siting down and look at ;
> http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/
> and
> http://www.xbow.com/

Why do I need to be sitting? But unless I'm missing it, the first is about
full EFIS-type solutions. That's not quite what I'm seeking.

My "baseline" is AnywhereAI. I'm looking for something similar that can
work along with AirGator's NavAir (or something similar).

The xbow site is interesting, and I'm going to spend more time on it to
learn more about this product space, but I don't see anything integrated
into the type of backup AI I'm seeking. Again, though, I could easily be
missing something on the site.

>
> Actually, I've recently started to make my own pseudo AHI,
> (mostly as an microprocessor exercise), but also to provide
> a backup to the vacuumn-driven DI and AH.
>
> A couple of dual-axis accelerometers, a GPS feed,
> 3-axis magnetic sensors, and some maths...
> easy! (he says with a big <g>)
> Initially I'll use a laptop and later a PDA.

Well, I'm hoping to buy this. As wrote, I know about AnywhereAI and I've
seen an AI on Cheetah. I'm just trying to learn what else is out there.

[But your project does sound like fun. How you manage to get time for that
*and* flying, though...<laugh>]

- Andrew

[MC]

Andrew Gideon wrote:
>
> MC wrote:
>
> > Andrew Gideon wrote:
> >
> >> Can anyone provide a pointer to some hardware/software usable on a
> >> portable computer (Microsoft's CE, or perhaps even XP on a small system)
> >> that provides a backup AI solution using "solid state gyros"
> >> (accelerometers?
> >> altitude heading reference system?). I'm looking for something that I
> >> can run on a system also running Airgator's NavAir product.
> >>
> >> Bluetooth-speaking would be especially interesting.

> > Anyway.., make sure you're siting down and look at ;
> > http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/
> > and
> > http://www.xbow.com/
>
> Why do I need to be sitting? But unless I'm missing it, the first is about
> full EFIS-type solutions. That's not quite what I'm seeking.

They have (or did have at one time), modules to give heading/attitude/etc
to feed into their EFIS panels.

Honeywell also have modules (HMR3200, HMR3300) which give a
magnetic-heading output, but will also provide some attitude/roll information.


> My "baseline" is AnywhereAI. I'm looking for something similar that can
> work along with AirGator's NavAir (or something similar).
>
> The xbow site is interesting, and I'm going to spend more time on it to
> learn more about this product space, but I don't see anything integrated
> into the type of backup AI I'm seeking. Again, though, I could easily be
> missing something on the site.

You'd have to write an app. to decode and present the data-stream
from the sensor(s) that you have.
AFAIK there doesn't appear to be much standardisation of the
data-streams across manufacturers/sensors,
(although there are NMEA sentences which could be used satisfactorily)

[Michelle P]

Andrew,
PCEFIS.
www.pcflightsystems.com
Michelle (satisfied customer)

Andrew Gideon wrote:

>Can anyone provide a pointer to some hardware/software usable on a portable
>computer (Microsoft's CE, or perhaps even XP on a small system) that
>provides a backup AI solution using "solid state gyros" (accelerometers?
>altitude heading reference system?). I'm looking for something that I can
>run on a system also running Airgator's NavAir product.
>
>Bluetooth-speaking would be especially interesting.
>
>Thanks...
>
> Andrew
>
>
>

--

Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P

"Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike)

Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic

Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity

[Andrew Gideon]

Michelle P wrote:

> Andrew,
> PCEFIS.
> www.pcflightsystems.com
> Michelle (satisfied customer)

Do you use this with a moving-map solution? If so, which? On what hardware
do you run this?

Thanks...

Andrew

[fly low]

Are you using on a laptop or a PDA?

"Michelle P" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> Andrew,
> PCEFIS.
> www.pcflightsystems.com
> Michelle (satisfied customer)
>
> Andrew Gideon wrote:
>
>>Can anyone provide a pointer to some hardware/software usable on a
>>portable computer (Microsoft's CE, or perhaps even XP on a small system)
>>that provides a backup AI solution using "solid state gyros"
>>(accelerometers? altitude heading reference system?). I'm looking for
>>something that I can run on a system also running Airgator's NavAir
>>product.
>>
>>Bluetooth-speaking would be especially interesting.
>>
>>Thanks...
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P
>
> "Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike)
>
> Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic
>
> Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity
>

[Andrew Gideon]

fly low wrote:

> Are you using on a laptop or a PDA?

Neither yet, but I'm guessing that the PDA would fit better.

- Andrew

[Michelle P]

PDA (pocket PC) mounted on the yoke.
Michelle

fly low wrote:

>Are you using on a laptop or a PDA?
>
>"Michelle P" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
>
>>Andrew,
>>PCEFIS.
>>www.pcflightsystems.com
>>Michelle (satisfied customer)
>>
>>Andrew Gideon wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Can anyone provide a pointer to some hardware/software usable on a
>>>portable computer (Microsoft's CE, or perhaps even XP on a small system)
>>>that provides a backup AI solution using "solid state gyros"
>>>(accelerometers? altitude heading reference system?). I'm looking for
>>>something that I can run on a system also running Airgator's NavAir
>>>product.
>>>
>>>Bluetooth-speaking would be especially interesting.
>>>
>>>Thanks...
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>
>>Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P
>>
>>"Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike)
>>
>>Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic
>>
>>Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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