Rolls Royce Meteor V 2 engine from a Centurion tank

[The Raven]

Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know they
were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
different as to be useless for any aviation application.

Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor engine and
is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it beyond
recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer there
is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better if
someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's intended
applications.

If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
response here and I will pass it on to him.

For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
Australia).

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[The Raven]

Oops V12 not V2.

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[Keith Willshaw]

"The Raven" > wrote in message
...
> Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know
they
> were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
> different as to be useless for any aviation application.
>

I think thats probably true, they certainly didnt have the supercharger
fit the aero engine had

> Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor engine
and
> is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it
beyond
> recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer
there
> is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better if
> someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's
intended
> applications.
>
> If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
> response here and I will pass it on to him.
>
> For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
> Australia).
>

There is almost certainly a market for it, there are a number of
Centurions owned by collectors

see http://www.milweb.net/go/select/sales.htm

Keith

[The Raven]

"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
...
>
> "The Raven" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know
> they
> > were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
> > different as to be useless for any aviation application.
> >
>
> I think thats probably true, they certainly didnt have the supercharger
> fit the aero engine had

Absolutely. I saw one up close (on a stand) but they weren't starting it at
the time. Hard to recognise it as an aero engine in caterpillar yellow.

>
> > Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor engine
> and
> > is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it
> beyond
> > recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer
> there
> > is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better
if
> > someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's
> intended
> > applications.
> >
> > If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
> > response here and I will pass it on to him.
> >
> > For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
> > Australia).
> >
>
> There is almost certainly a market for it, there are a number of
> Centurions owned by collectors
>
> see http://www.milweb.net/go/select/sales.htm

Thanks, will look into it. Hopefully someone in Canada is interested.


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** since August 15th 2000.

[Ken Duffey]

The Raven wrote:

> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "The Raven" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know
> > they
> > > were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
> > > different as to be useless for any aviation application.
> > >
> >
> > I think thats probably true, they certainly didnt have the supercharger
> > fit the aero engine had
>
> Absolutely. I saw one up close (on a stand) but they weren't starting it at
> the time. Hard to recognise it as an aero engine in caterpillar yellow.
>
> >
> > > Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor engine
> > and
> > > is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it
> > beyond
> > > recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer
> > there
> > > is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better
> if
> > > someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's
> > intended
> > > applications.
> > >
> > > If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
> > > response here and I will pass it on to him.
> > >
> > > For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
> > > Australia).
> > >
> >
> > There is almost certainly a market for it, there are a number of
> > Centurions owned by collectors
> >
> > see http://www.milweb.net/go/select/sales.htm
>
> Thanks, will look into it. Hopefully someone in Canada is interested.
>
> --
> The Raven
> http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
> ** President of the ozemail.* and uunet.* NG's
> ** since August 15th 2000.

Just an aside..............

I used to work for the UK MOD as a Civil Servant - one job I had was in NATO
Codification - the allocation of parts numbers to NATO Stock items.

We were told the story about the reasons behind the drive to standardise
parts/stock numbers between the NATO allies - and even between the UK Services.

In the olden days if a Royal Navy Landrover broke down or had a puncture outside
an Army barracks - it could not get spare parts at the Army stores - the part
numbering systems were completely different!!

The Army landrover rode on Tubes, Inner & Covers, Outer, the RN landrover
probably just had Tires and Inner Tubes!!!

Meanwhile - back at RR Meteor/Merlins.........

Apparently during the Korean war a USAF Sqn of P-51's were grounded due to a
shortage of spare parts for their Packard Merlins.

Over the next hill was an Australian army tank battalion - equipped with British
Centurion tanks.

The Centurions had RR Meteor engines - and if they had only had a common parts
nomenclature/numbering system, the Aussie could have supplied the Yanks with
parts!

It is probably an apocryphal story - and certainly exagerated, but a good one
nonetheless.

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Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++

[Wright1902Glider]

Thinking E-Bay on this one... if it can't find a home in a tank or plane, it
might go well in a competition pulling tractor or race boat of some sort.
There was a RR Griffon on E-Bay a while back.

[T L Jones]

In article >,
(The Raven) wrote:

> Article: 20156 of rec.aviation.restoration
> Path:
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> From: "The Raven" >
> Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.restoration
> Subject: Rolls Royce Meteor V 2 engine from a Centurion tank
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:32:47 +1100
> Organization: Nevermore
>
>
> Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know
> they
> were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
> different as to be useless for any aviation application.
>
> Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor
> engine and
> is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it
> beyond
> recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer
> there
> is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better
> if
> someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's
> intended
> applications.
>
> If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
> response here and I will pass it on to him.
>
> For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
> Australia).
>

An acquaintance of mine, a considerable engineer has just converted a
Meteor engine to a Merlin which he has run on the ground with a propeller.

Incidently, whilst the Meteor was of RR origin many were made by Rover.
Rover swapped the Whittle jet project and factory in 1943 with RR for the
Meteor project and factory

Terry.

[The Raven]

"T L Jones" > wrote in message
.co.uk...
> In article >,
> (The Raven) wrote:
>
> > Article: 20156 of rec.aviation.restoration
> > Path:
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> > lin.de!uni-berlin.de!1cust198.tnt4.mel1.da.uu.NET!not-for-mail
> > From: "The Raven" >
> > Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.restoration
> > Subject: Rolls Royce Meteor V 2 engine from a Centurion tank
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 20:32:47 +1100
> > Organization: Nevermore
> >
> >
> > Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know
> > they
> > were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
> > different as to be useless for any aviation application.
> >
> > Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor
> > engine and
> > is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it
> > beyond
> > recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer
> > there
> > is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better
> > if
> > someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's
> > intended
> > applications.
> >
> > If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
> > response here and I will pass it on to him.
> >
> > For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
> > Australia).
> >
>
> An acquaintance of mine, a considerable engineer has just converted a
> Meteor engine to a Merlin which he has run on the ground with a propeller.

So it's obviously a cost effective situation, one assumes without the
supercharger.......

>
> Incidently, whilst the Meteor was of RR origin many were made by Rover.
> Rover swapped the Whittle jet project and factory in 1943 with RR for the
> Meteor project and factory

This particular engine is of the Rover variety going by it's id plate.


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** since August 15th 2000.

[L'acrobat]

"Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
...

> Meanwhile - back at RR Meteor/Merlins.........
>
> Apparently during the Korean war a USAF Sqn of P-51's were grounded due to
a
> shortage of spare parts for their Packard Merlins.
>
> Over the next hill was an Australian army tank battalion - equipped with
British
> Centurion tanks.
>
> The Centurions had RR Meteor engines - and if they had only had a common
parts
> nomenclature/numbering system, the Aussie could have supplied the Yanks
with
> parts!
>
> It is probably an apocryphal story - and certainly exagerated, but a good
one
> nonetheless.

It was not until the beginning of 1952 that the Australian Army finally
received it's first Centurion tanks. These first tanks were given to 1
Armoured Regiment.

1 Armoured Regt did not serve in Korea.

[Ken Duffey]

L'acrobat wrote:

> "Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Meanwhile - back at RR Meteor/Merlins.........
> >
> > Apparently during the Korean war a USAF Sqn of P-51's were grounded due to
> a
> > shortage of spare parts for their Packard Merlins.
> >
> > Over the next hill was an Australian army tank battalion - equipped with
> British
> > Centurion tanks.
> >
> > The Centurions had RR Meteor engines - and if they had only had a common
> parts
> > nomenclature/numbering system, the Aussie could have supplied the Yanks
> with
> > parts!
> >
> > It is probably an apocryphal story - and certainly exagerated, but a good
> one
> > nonetheless.
>
> It was not until the beginning of 1952 that the Australian Army finally
> received it's first Centurion tanks. These first tanks were given to 1
> Armoured Regiment.
>
> 1 Armoured Regt did not serve in Korea.

I said the story was probably apophrycal...........

Stop spoiling it with facts!

How about the Comet tank - what engine did that have - and did the Aussies use
it - and was it in Korea ??

Desperately trying to salvage a good story............

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++

[ANDREW ROBERT BREEN]

In article >,
Ken Duffey > wrote:
>L'acrobat wrote:
>> "Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > The Centurions had RR Meteor engines - and if they had only had a common
>> parts
>> > nomenclature/numbering system, the Aussie could have supplied the Yanks
>> with
>> > parts!

>> It was not until the beginning of 1952 that the Australian Army finally
>> received it's first Centurion tanks. These first tanks were given to 1
>> Armoured Regiment.

>How about the Comet tank - what engine did that have - and did the Aussies use
>it - and was it in Korea ??

Comet had the Meteor.

--
Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group
http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/
"Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock
and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas)

[L'acrobat]

"ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Ken Duffey > wrote:
> >L'acrobat wrote:
> >> "Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > The Centurions had RR Meteor engines - and if they had only had a
common
> >> parts
> >> > nomenclature/numbering system, the Aussie could have supplied the
Yanks
> >> with
> >> > parts!
>
> >> It was not until the beginning of 1952 that the Australian Army finally
> >> received it's first Centurion tanks. These first tanks were given to 1
> >> Armoured Regiment.
>
> >How about the Comet tank - what engine did that have - and did the
Aussies use
> >it - and was it in Korea ??
>
> Comet had the Meteor.

Australia never used the Comet

[Ken Duffey]

L'acrobat wrote:

> "ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > Ken Duffey > wrote:
> > >L'acrobat wrote:
> > >> "Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> > The Centurions had RR Meteor engines - and if they had only had a
> common
> > >> parts
> > >> > nomenclature/numbering system, the Aussie could have supplied the
> Yanks
> > >> with
> > >> > parts!
> >
> > >> It was not until the beginning of 1952 that the Australian Army finally
> > >> received it's first Centurion tanks. These first tanks were given to 1
> > >> Armoured Regiment.
> >
> > >How about the Comet tank - what engine did that have - and did the
> Aussies use
> > >it - and was it in Korea ??
> >
> > Comet had the Meteor.
>
> Australia never used the Comet

OK - some tank regiment somewhere, equipped with some tanks powered by RR Meteor
engines, were stationed in the next valley to an air force squadron of planes
powered by Packard Merlins.

If only they'd known that it was essentially the same engine - they could have
swapped parts and prevented the air force squadron from being grounded due to
lack of spares.

Will that do ??

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++

[L'acrobat]

"Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
...
> L'acrobat wrote:
>
> > "ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In article >,
> > > Ken Duffey > wrote:
> > > >L'acrobat wrote:
> > > >> "Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
> > > >> ...
> > > >> > The Centurions had RR Meteor engines - and if they had only had a
> > common
> > > >> parts
> > > >> > nomenclature/numbering system, the Aussie could have supplied the
> > Yanks
> > > >> with
> > > >> > parts!
> > >
> > > >> It was not until the beginning of 1952 that the Australian Army
finally
> > > >> received it's first Centurion tanks. These first tanks were given
to 1
> > > >> Armoured Regiment.
> > >
> > > >How about the Comet tank - what engine did that have - and did the
> > Aussies use
> > > >it - and was it in Korea ??
> > >
> > > Comet had the Meteor.
> >
> > Australia never used the Comet
>
> OK - some tank regiment somewhere, equipped with some tanks powered by RR
Meteor
> engines, were stationed in the next valley to an air force squadron of
planes
> powered by Packard Merlins.
>
> If only they'd known that it was essentially the same engine - they could
have
> swapped parts and prevented the air force squadron from being grounded due
to
> lack of spares.
>
> Will that do ??

Yes thats accurate. but somehow the story lacks the same zing...

[Peter Stickney]

In article >,
Ken Duffey > writes:
> L'acrobat wrote:
>> Australia never used the Comet
>
> OK - some tank regiment somewhere, equipped with some tanks powered by RR Meteor
> engines, were stationed in the next valley to an air force squadron of planes
> powered by Packard Merlins.
>
> If only they'd known that it was essentially the same engine - they could have
> swapped parts and prevented the air force squadron from being grounded due to
> lack of spares.
>
> Will that do ??

Well, now that we've got that sorted out, No, I don't think that it
would help, actually. Well, they may be able to trade Whitworth
Thread bolts, but stuff like Carburetors, and the oterh accessory
stuff would be differnt. (V1650s used Bendix-Stromberg Pressure Carbs,
IIRC, the Meteor uses an SU. The Packard has a differnt back end,
with the wheelcase for the blower on it, and a different front end
with the propeller gearbox. The airplane engine had vacuum pumps,
hydraylic pumps, and a 24V generator all hooked to the engine, and all
of those would be different. Pistons, cranks, & conrods may be
similar in dimension, but given Roll's penchant for sloppy
manufacturing tolerances and hand-fitting parts, I don't know if
Rover, who swapped Whittle Turbojet production to Rolls for the Meteor
plant, improved that particular situation.


--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

[The Raven]

"L'acrobat" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
> ...
> > L'acrobat wrote:
> >
> > > "ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > In article >,
> > > > Ken Duffey > wrote:
> > > > >L'acrobat wrote:
> > > > >> "Ken Duffey" > wrote in message
> > > > >> ...
> > > > >> > The Centurions had RR Meteor engines - and if they had only had
a
> > > common
> > > > >> parts
> > > > >> > nomenclature/numbering system, the Aussie could have supplied
the
> > > Yanks
> > > > >> with
> > > > >> > parts!
> > > >
> > > > >> It was not until the beginning of 1952 that the Australian Army
> finally
> > > > >> received it's first Centurion tanks. These first tanks were given
> to 1
> > > > >> Armoured Regiment.
> > > >
> > > > >How about the Comet tank - what engine did that have - and did the
> > > Aussies use
> > > > >it - and was it in Korea ??
> > > >
> > > > Comet had the Meteor.
> > >
> > > Australia never used the Comet
> >
> > OK - some tank regiment somewhere, equipped with some tanks powered by
RR
> Meteor
> > engines, were stationed in the next valley to an air force squadron of
> planes
> > powered by Packard Merlins.
> >
> > If only they'd known that it was essentially the same engine - they
could
> have
> > swapped parts and prevented the air force squadron from being grounded
due
> to
> > lack of spares.
> >
> > Will that do ??
>
> Yes thats accurate. but somehow the story lacks the same zing...

BTW someone who owns a airworthy Merlin suggested the Meteor engine may
contain steel parts. He didn't elaborate but there was a hint that the block
may be something other than aluminum.

[Mike Hide]

Wasn't the Merlin an inline piston engine and the meteor engine a gas
turbine engine.the two have to be totally dissimilar....mjh

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"The Raven" > wrote in message
...
> Can anyone tell me how similar these engines were to the Merlin? I know
they
> were a derivative but being intended for ground use may be so totally
> different as to be useless for any aviation application.
>
> Why do I ask? An acquaintance has just acquired a complete Meteor engine
and
> is looking to sell it off. I don't believe he wants to profit from it
beyond
> recovering costs. If the engine is valueless or he can't find a buyer
there
> is a possibility (slim) it may be scrapped. However, it would be better if
> someone would purchase the engine and put it back into one of it's
intended
> applications.
>
> If anyone is interested in the engine, even for parts, please post a
> response here and I will pass it on to him.
>
> For those interested, the engine is in Canada (despite me being in
> Australia).
>
> --
> The Raven
> http://www.80scartoons.co.uk/batfinkquote.mp3
> ** President of the ozemail.* and uunet.* NG's
> ** since August 15th 2000.
>
>

[The Raven]

"Mike Hide" > wrote in message
news:b0jXb.308382$xy6.1503503@attbi_s02...
> Wasn't the Merlin an inline piston engine and the meteor engine a gas
> turbine engine.the two have to be totally dissimilar....mjh

The Rolls Royce Merlin (including all license built models) was a V12
engine. Used in such aircraft as the Lancaster and P-51 Mustang.

The Rover Meteor engine is a derivative of that engine and saw application
in the Centurion tank.

I think you're associating the name Meteor with the Gloster Meteor jet
aircraft (which had turbines).


--
The Raven
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** President of the ozemail.* and uunet.* NG's
** since August 15th 2000.

[ANDREW ROBERT BREEN]

In article <b0jXb.308382$xy6.1503503@attbi_s02>,
Mike Hide > wrote:
>Wasn't the Merlin an inline piston engine and the meteor engine a gas
>turbine engine.the two have to be totally dissimilar....mjh

The Rolls-Royce Merlin was a V12 piston engine, as was the (directly
derived from the Merlin) Rover Meteor tank engine.
The Gloster Meteor aeroplane was pwered variously by Rolls-Royce
Welland or Derwent, Halford H1 (De Havilland Goblin) or Metrovick
M2 turbojets or - in one case - Rolls-Royce Trent turboprops.

--
Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group
http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/
"Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock
and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas)

[Keith Willshaw]

"Mike Hide" > wrote in message
news:b0jXb.308382$xy6.1503503@attbi_s02...
> Wasn't the Merlin an inline piston engine and the meteor engine a gas
> turbine engine.the two have to be totally dissimilar....mjh
>

You have misunderstood I fear.

The Rolls Royce Meteor was a derivative of the Merlin inline
piston engine abd was used in armoured fighting vehicles

The GLOSTER Meteor used various engines including
Rolls Royce Derwents

Keith

[Pits]

"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mike Hide" > wrote in message
> news:b0jXb.308382$xy6.1503503@attbi_s02...
> > Wasn't the Merlin an inline piston engine and the meteor engine a gas
> > turbine engine.the two have to be totally dissimilar....mjh
> >
>
> You have misunderstood I fear.
>
> The Rolls Royce Meteor was a derivative of the Merlin inline
> piston engine abd was used in armoured fighting vehicles
>
Called the Meteor Mark four B
> The GLOSTER Meteor used various engines including
> Rolls Royce Derwents
>
What he said :)

> Keith
>
>

[Chuck Harris]

According to a website on PT boats that I found by Google,
the PT 7X series boats used a Packard V12 that was a direct
descendant of the Lancaster Airplane engine. They made a point
of saying that it wasn't a Merlin, or a Packard-Merlin.

Looks like there were tanks, boats and airplanes that shared a
related V12 engine.

-Chuck Harris


The Raven wrote:
> "Mike Hide" > wrote in message
> news:b0jXb.308382$xy6.1503503@attbi_s02...
>
>>Wasn't the Merlin an inline piston engine and the meteor engine a gas
>>turbine engine.the two have to be totally dissimilar....mjh
>
>
> The Rolls Royce Merlin (including all license built models) was a V12
> engine. Used in such aircraft as the Lancaster and P-51 Mustang.
>
> The Rover Meteor engine is a derivative of that engine and saw application
> in the Centurion tank.
>
> I think you're associating the name Meteor with the Gloster Meteor jet
> aircraft (which had turbines).
>
>

[Peter Stickney]

In article >,
Chuck Harris > writes:
> According to a website on PT boats that I found by Google,
> the PT 7X series boats used a Packard V12 that was a direct
> descendant of the Lancaster Airplane engine. They made a point
> of saying that it wasn't a Merlin, or a Packard-Merlin.

They were pPackard V-12s, and derived from airplane engines, but not
Merlins. The Packard PT boat engines were derivatives of the Packard
A-1500 V-12s built in the 1920s.

I think some RAF Crashboats _did_ use the Meteor, though.
Certainly some, in the 1950s used Rolls Griffons.

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster

[ANDREW ROBERT BREEN]

In article >,
Chuck Harris > wrote:
>According to a website on PT boats that I found by Google,
>the PT 7X series boats used a Packard V12 that was a direct
>descendant of the Lancaster Airplane engine. They made a point

Liberty, not Lancaster. No such engine as a Lancaster, so
far as I know, and the Lancaster aeroplane was powered
by Merlins (most marks) or Bristol Hercules.

One Motor Torpedo Boat (the solitary F-type Fairmile)
got four Hercules instead of the usual Packards, bus
tthe power drain of the cooling fans just about absorbed
the power increase. It might have been different if she'd
got Centaurus, as planned.

>of saying that it wasn't a Merlin, or a Packard-Merlin.

>Looks like there were tanks, boats and airplanes that shared a
>related V12 engine.

Certainly most British cruiser tanks (and the Valentine and
Churchill infantry tanks) had Liberty-derived V12s. Can't
remember whether the shift to the Meteor was with the Cromwell
or the Comet (Cromwell, I think - the related Centaur certain;y
had a Nuffield Liberty)

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