Naviter SeeYou Recorder and LiveTrack24

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

This looks interesting - maybe.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152475047795348&set=a.10150465617365348.426257.63216395347&type=1
SeeYou Recorder is free logging software for iPhone and Android devices.
Naviter recently added the ability for SeeYou Recorder to use the
LiveTrack24 service for life tracking of the flight. LiveTrack24 service is
available for a few dollars a month.

http://shop.livetrack24.com/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=1
http://www.livetrack24.com/store/index
http://www.livetrack24.com

One big question is how high you can go before your cell phone loses
reception and the live tracking stops. I wonder whether the service is
useful for soaring. Does this type of thing have potential to replace the
tracking features of SPOT and DeLorme inReach units? It certainly can't
replace the emergency remote communication capabilities offered by those
devices.

In the past I tried a free gliding tracking app for iPhone. I don't
remember the name of it. I didn't test it in flight but it worked fine on
the ground. It didn't offer the cool 3D tracking that LiveTrack24 offers.

It would be cool if a low cost service and free app made it easy for our
friends to follow us live with 3D views on a PC or Mac. SPOT and InReach
can't do that.

Information on the free SeeYou Recorder app is available here:
http://www.naviter.com/products/seeyou-recorder/

In not ready to sign-up for the service yet. Does anyone else want to give
it a try and report back here? Or is there no potential due to limited
coverage at altitude?

Best Regards,

Paul Remde

[jfitch]

On Friday, May 9, 2014 6:44:18 AM UTC-7, Paul Remde wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> This looks interesting - maybe.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152475047795348&set=a.10150465617365348.426257.63216395347&type=1
>
> SeeYou Recorder is free logging software for iPhone and Android devices.
>
> Naviter recently added the ability for SeeYou Recorder to use the
>
> LiveTrack24 service for life tracking of the flight. LiveTrack24 service is
>
> available for a few dollars a month.
>
>
>
> http://shop.livetrack24.com/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=1
>
> http://www.livetrack24.com/store/index
>
> http://www.livetrack24.com
>
>
>
> One big question is how high you can go before your cell phone loses
>
> reception and the live tracking stops. I wonder whether the service is
>
> useful for soaring. Does this type of thing have potential to replace the
>
> tracking features of SPOT and DeLorme inReach units? It certainly can't
>
> replace the emergency remote communication capabilities offered by those
>
> devices.
>
>
>
> In the past I tried a free gliding tracking app for iPhone. I don't
>
> remember the name of it. I didn't test it in flight but it worked fine on
>
> the ground. It didn't offer the cool 3D tracking that LiveTrack24 offers.
>
>
>
> It would be cool if a low cost service and free app made it easy for our
>
> friends to follow us live with 3D views on a PC or Mac. SPOT and InReach
>
> can't do that.
>
>
>
> Information on the free SeeYou Recorder app is available here:
>
> http://www.naviter.com/products/seeyou-recorder/
>
>
>
> In not ready to sign-up for the service yet. Does anyone else want to give
>
> it a try and report back here? Or is there no potential due to limited
>
> coverage at altitude?
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Paul Remde

LiveTrack24 has worked on Butterfly's iGlide app since about day one. Coverage may depend on where you fly, but out here in the western desert I would think worst case, and I have always had cell coverage at altitude.

[Tony[_5_]]

On Friday, May 9, 2014 10:37:03 AM UTC-5, jfitch wrote:
> On Friday, May 9, 2014 6:44:18 AM UTC-7, Paul Remde wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > This looks interesting - maybe.
>
> >
>
> > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152475047795348&set=a.10150465617365348.426257.63216395347&type=1
>
> >
>
> > SeeYou Recorder is free logging software for iPhone and Android devices..
>
> >
>
> > Naviter recently added the ability for SeeYou Recorder to use the
>
> >
>
> > LiveTrack24 service for life tracking of the flight. LiveTrack24 service is
>
> >
>
> > available for a few dollars a month.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > http://shop.livetrack24.com/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=1
>
> >
>
> > http://www.livetrack24.com/store/index
>
> >
>
> > http://www.livetrack24.com
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > One big question is how high you can go before your cell phone loses
>
> >
>
> > reception and the live tracking stops. I wonder whether the service is
>
> >
>
> > useful for soaring. Does this type of thing have potential to replace the
>
> >
>
> > tracking features of SPOT and DeLorme inReach units? It certainly can't
>
> >
>
> > replace the emergency remote communication capabilities offered by those
>
> >
>
> > devices.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > In the past I tried a free gliding tracking app for iPhone. I don't
>
> >
>
> > remember the name of it. I didn't test it in flight but it worked fine on
>
> >
>
> > the ground. It didn't offer the cool 3D tracking that LiveTrack24 offers.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > It would be cool if a low cost service and free app made it easy for our
>
> >
>
> > friends to follow us live with 3D views on a PC or Mac. SPOT and InReach
>
> >
>
> > can't do that.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Information on the free SeeYou Recorder app is available here:
>
> >
>
> > http://www.naviter.com/products/seeyou-recorder/
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > In not ready to sign-up for the service yet. Does anyone else want to give
>
> >
>
> > it a try and report back here? Or is there no potential due to limited
>
> >
>
> > coverage at altitude?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Best Regards,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Paul Remde
>
>
>
> LiveTrack24 has worked on Butterfly's iGlide app since about day one. Coverage may depend on where you fly, but out here in the western desert I would think worst case, and I have always had cell coverage at altitude.

a friend uses it on iGlide and in the flat middle of the country, cell service is pretty lousy above, say, 4 or 5000 feet. We tracked him at Region 10 South last year and only knew when he was low or on final glide. If we couldn't see him, we didn't worry, because he was too high to get a cell signal and that was a good thing! Definitely not a replacement for the other tracking systems the much faster update rate is pretty cool.

[John Carlyle]

I looked into this service, but got stopped by "geek speak". The web site says Livetrack24 uses GPRS for communication. From what I gathered via Google, GPRS is for GSM networks, not for the CDMA used by Verizon (but I could be wrong).

Does anyone have any experience using Livetrack24 using Verizon?

-John, Q3

[Wojciech Scigala]

Użytkownik Paul Remde napisał:

> One big question is how high you can go before your cell phone loses
> reception and the live tracking stops.
The general rule is that hill areas have better GSM coverage at
altitude. On flats, it's paradoxically better on sparsely habited areas
with fewer ground stations.

Of course your mileage may vary :>

--
Wojtuś

[John Carlyle]

Did an experiment - Livetrack 24 works fine using an iPhone 4 running iOS 6.1.3 on Verizon. Now to see what it's like in flight in Eastern PA...

-John, Q3


On Friday, May 9, 2014 12:39:14 PM UTC-4, John Carlyle wrote:
> I looked into this service, but got stopped by "geek speak". The web site says Livetrack24 uses GPRS for communication. From what I gathered via Google, GPRS is for GSM networks, not for the CDMA used by Verizon (but I could be wrong).
>
> Does anyone have any experience using Livetrack24 using Verizon?
>
> -John, Q3

[jfitch]

On Friday, May 9, 2014 9:39:14 AM UTC-7, John Carlyle wrote:
> I looked into this service, but got stopped by "geek speak". The web site says Livetrack24 uses GPRS for communication. From what I gathered via Google, GPRS is for GSM networks, not for the CDMA used by Verizon (but I could be wrong).
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience using Livetrack24 using Verizon?
>
>
>
> -John, Q3

Livetrack is just using whatever internet connection you have on your smart phone. In most of the world, that is GSM.