Shipping a glider from western US to Europe

[ES]

Glider/trailer needs to get from western Nevada to Switzerland. How does one get started?

Thanks/tuno

[Mark628CA]

Step 1: Fill truck with gas.
Step 2: Attach trailer.
Step 3: Go East young man!

[Chris Rollings[_2_]]

Try a very high tow.

At 19:22 21 June 2014, ES wrote:
>Glider/trailer needs to get from western Nevada to Switzerland. How does
>one get started?
>
>Thanks/tuno
>

[[email protected]]

On Saturday, June 21, 2014 3:22:53 PM UTC-4, ES wrote:
> Glider/trailer needs to get from western Nevada to Switzerland. How does one get started?
>
You could inquire with Williams Soaring in CA. They've shipped a few dozen ships to EU buyers. My buyer in Israel arranged everything to move my ship from Midwest U.S. using one of the main logistics companies. Cost was about $2500.

[Bob Kuykendall]

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 7:16:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
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> You could inquire with Williams Soaring in CA. They've
> shipped a few dozen ships to EU buyers...

Hmmm... That's not necessarily a good sign...

Bob K.

[Ron Gleason]

On Sunday, 22 June 2014 08:40:43 UTC-6, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> On Sunday, June 22, 2014 7:16:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
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> > You could inquire with Williams Soaring in CA. They've
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> > shipped a few dozen ships to EU buyers...
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> Hmmm... That's not necessarily a good sign...
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> Bob K.

OT but with the weak US dollar gliders are a bargain for non-US based pilots

[ES]

Glasshole.

[ES]

D'oh, nuther glasshole.

[ES]

D'oh, not a glasshole. A few dozen is quite a bit of experience. I'll give 'em a ping. Thanks.

[ES]

Not far off OT. The Swiss Franc is quite strong, so the buyer I have has a wee bit more flexibility wrt shipping costs. We're just trying to unnertand the mechanics.

[Kevin Christner]

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 11:30:06 PM UTC-4, ES wrote:
> Not far off OT. The Swiss Franc is quite strong, so the buyer I have has a wee bit more flexibility wrt shipping costs. We're just trying to unnertand the mechanics.

1) Have inspection done that meets whatever the new jurisdiction requires for an imported aircraft
2) Deregister aircraft in US
3) Talk to logistics company
4) Tie down trailer in container when logistics company arrives. They will pick up anywhere.

2C

[Andy Taylor]

At 12:10 23 June 2014, Kevin Christner wrote:
>On Sunday, June 22, 2014 11:30:06 PM UTC-4, ES wrote:
>> Not far off OT. The Swiss Franc is quite strong, so the buyer I have
has
>a wee bit more flexibility wrt shipping costs. We're just trying to
>unnertand the mechanics.
>
>1) Have inspection done that meets whatever the new jurisdiction requires
>for an imported aircraft
>2) Deregister aircraft in US
>3) Talk to logistics company
>4) Tie down trailer in container when logistics company arrives. They
will
>pick up anywhere.

What are the tax implications for importing a glider from the US? Is there
VAT to pay?

[Andy[_1_]]

On Saturday, June 21, 2014 12:22:53 PM UTC-7, ES wrote:
> Glider/trailer needs to get from western Nevada to Switzerland. How does one get started?
>
>
>
> Thanks/tuno

My 28 arrived in CA on a roll on roll off ferry. If you can contact the right people to set it up, it should be possible to drive it to CA, kiss it goodbye, and a little later your purchaser goes to the dock, wrangles with customs, and drives it home. Port Hueneme in CA and I think Hamburg were the ports. You may find more information on RORO here:

http://www.carshippingworldwide.com/roll-on-roll-off-ports.php

The devil of course is in the details. John Murray may be another possible contact to fill in those details. There have been several discussions on RAS about de-registering before shipping.

Andy

[Andy[_1_]]

On Monday, June 23, 2014 1:51:01 PM UTC-7, Andy wrote:


I think Wallenius Wilhelmsen was the company that shipped my 28. They serve Port Hueneme with RORO for cars and other rolling equipment. Mine come over with a batch of BMW Minis.

http://www.2wglobal.com/www/customerSegment/cars/index.jsp

http://www.2wglobal.com/www/customerSegment/RollingEquipment/index.jsp

Andy

[Peter Scholz[_3_]]

Am 23.06.2014 22:30, Andy Taylor wrote:
> At 12:10 23 June 2014, Kevin Christner wrote:
>> On Sunday, June 22, 2014 11:30:06 PM UTC-4, ES wrote:
>>> Not far off OT. The Swiss Franc is quite strong, so the buyer I have
> has
>> a wee bit more flexibility wrt shipping costs. We're just trying to
>> unnertand the mechanics.
>>
>> 1) Have inspection done that meets whatever the new jurisdiction requires
>> for an imported aircraft
>> 2) Deregister aircraft in US
>> 3) Talk to logistics company
>> 4) Tie down trailer in container when logistics company arrives. They
> will
>> pick up anywhere.
>
> What are the tax implications for importing a glider from the US? Is there
> VAT to pay?
>
>
>

For import from US to CH: 30.00 CHF /100kg gross weight + 8% VAT on
value of the glider.

(Customs tarif number is 8801.0010)

--
Peter Scholz
ASW24 JE

[Frank Whiteley]

On Monday, June 23, 2014 3:17:41 PM UTC-6, Andy wrote:
> On Monday, June 23, 2014 1:51:01 PM UTC-7, Andy wrote:
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> I think Wallenius Wilhelmsen was the company that shipped my 28. They serve Port Hueneme with RORO for cars and other rolling equipment. Mine come over with a batch of BMW Minis.
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> http://www.2wglobal.com/www/customerSegment/cars/index.jsp
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> http://www.2wglobal.com/www/customerSegment/RollingEquipment/index.jsp
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> Andy

I used W-W for ro-ro many years ago, Southampton, UK, to Houston, TX. However, when my chapter was looking at possible two-seater imports from Europe a couple of years ago, port retrieval and ro-ro turned out to be rather more expensive than container point to point. Road fuel is just more expensive now. We are in Colorado, so using Denver as a port and container ship to rail was cheapest bid. Will vary by location of course. Did the same going the other way many years ago, container from Kansas City, Missouri, by rail to a Great Lakes port, out the St. Lawrence to Felixstowe, UK, all in two weeks. Wasn't cheapest, but most convenient.

Frank Whiteley