iPad mini/iGlide

[Ross Whittle]

Anyone using an iPad or iPad mini with the iGlide software?

I wondered if anyone was using a mount for an iPad mini or could
recommend one.

[JS]

"RAM" roller mounts are great. Amazon link below for ipad mini. They make them for all sorts of tabletty thingies.
Jim

http://www.amazon.com/Mounting-Systems-Ez-rollr-Cradle-Ram-hol-ap14u/dp/B00B7OE4DW

[Ross Whittle]

At 08:26 21 July 2014, JS wrote:
>"RAM" roller mounts are great. Amazon link below for ipad mini.
They make
>them for all sorts of tabletty thingies.
>Jim
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Mounting-Systems-Ez-rollr-Cradle-Ram-
hol-ap14u/dp/B00B7OE4DW
>

Cheers!!

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

The RAM-HOL-UN8BU works great with iPad Mini units.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/ram.htm#RAM-HOL-UN8BU

Is the iPad mini bright enough for use in bright sunlight?

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
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"JS" wrote in message
...

"RAM" roller mounts are great. Amazon link below for ipad mini. They make
them for all sorts of tabletty thingies.
Jim

http://www.amazon.com/Mounting-Systems-Ez-rollr-Cradle-Ram-hol-ap14u/dp/B00B7OE4DW

[glidergeek]

Anybody using the Iglide software in an Ipad or iPhone that can comment as to it's usefulness?

[Sean Fidler]

On Monday, July 21, 2014 1:43:44 PM UTC-4, Glidergeek wrote:
> Anybody using the Iglide software in an Ipad or iPhone that can comment as to it's usefulness?

I have used iGlide Pro occasionally for over a year now. Its fun, very intuitive and EXTREMELY easy to use when compared to an Oudie or even XC Soar. One issue is that the Phone 5 is not bright enough for sunny days and the battery life is not sufficient for a long flight (external battery required). iGlide would be great on the iPad Mini's large display if its bright enough and the battery life is better (likely it is).

FWIW,

Sean

[jfitch]

On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:43:44 AM UTC-7, Glidergeek wrote:
> Anybody using the Iglide software in an Ipad or iPhone that can comment as to it's usefulness?

Yes.

I have used iGlide on an iPhone 5s and 4s. My comments:

* It is by far the most advanced user interface of any available software, nicely integrating the full iOS user interface in every aspect. Swipes, pinch to zoom, touch panning, ease of editing fields and tasks, etc. puts most of the others to shame. Nearly everything you do is substantially quicker, easier, and more intuitive than the others. I own and have run SYM, XCSoar, GlideNav, Winpilot, Winpilot iOS.

* An iPhone is *nearly* sunlight readable at around 500 nits. An iPad mini falls enough short of that (350 nits) to make it unusable for me except under dense clouds. The iPhone and iPad screens are all glossy finish, making reflections a problem. When hand held you naturally tilt the display to minimize these, but in a mount you are cannot.

* The resolution of the display somewhat compensates for the small size (iPhone), however you must mount it closer to you, and then deal with the focus issues (if you are older than 45 :) ).

* The display is very configurable through both the navbox choices and the XML file specifying display choices.

* The connectivity of the iPhone means that a full update of airspace, FLarm database, maps, whatever is just a click or two away.

* The Flarm display only supplies details on one chosen target. It will display a target icon and identifier for all of them, but details on only one at a time.

* The iPhone is a little power hungry (more draw than an Oudie). It will operate maybe three hours on internal battery. I have it fed from the ship's instrument battery, it draws around 0.35 - 0.4A even when fully charged. An Oudie is about 0.25 - 0.3.

* In sunny and warm conditions the iPhone may overheat and shut down until it cools. I found that to be nearly a killer for me. I fly in the high desert, on the ground it quickly warms up if in the sun. Once at altitude you can direct a cool air blast and keep it cool, but this limits where you put it.

If and when we see a 5" iPhone 6, then it could be perfect. However the display brightness and warm shutdown may remain an issue.

[glidergeek]

Were you using Lite...Advanced or pro version?

[jfitch]

On Monday, July 21, 2014 2:55:35 PM UTC-7, Glidergeek wrote:
> Were you using Lite...Advanced or pro version?

Pro. You need the advanced to get task functions, and Pro to get different rules and other features.

I wish they would make a free version available that only works in simulator mode. I have suggested that, but so far no. Just about every other program you can try before you buy.

[glidergeek]

On Monday, July 21, 2014 1:54:05 PM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:
> On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:43:44 AM UTC-7, Glidergeek wrote:
>
> > Anybody using the Iglide software in an Ipad or iPhone that can comment as to it's usefulness?
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> I have used iGlide on an iPhone 5s and 4s. My comments:
>
>
>
> * It is by far the most advanced user interface of any available software, nicely integrating the full iOS user interface in every aspect. Swipes, pinch to zoom, touch panning, ease of editing fields and tasks, etc. puts most of the others to shame. Nearly everything you do is substantially quicker, easier, and more intuitive than the others. I own and have run SYM, XCSoar, GlideNav, Winpilot, Winpilot iOS.
>
>
>
> * An iPhone is *nearly* sunlight readable at around 500 nits. An iPad mini falls enough short of that (350 nits) to make it unusable for me except under dense clouds. The iPhone and iPad screens are all glossy finish, making reflections a problem. When hand held you naturally tilt the display to minimize these, but in a mount you are cannot.
>
>
>
> * The resolution of the display somewhat compensates for the small size (iPhone), however you must mount it closer to you, and then deal with the focus issues (if you are older than 45 :) ).
>
>
>
> * The display is very configurable through both the navbox choices and the XML file specifying display choices.
>
>
>
> * The connectivity of the iPhone means that a full update of airspace, FLarm database, maps, whatever is just a click or two away.
>
>
>
> * The Flarm display only supplies details on one chosen target. It will display a target icon and identifier for all of them, but details on only one at a time.
>
>
>
> * The iPhone is a little power hungry (more draw than an Oudie). It will operate maybe three hours on internal battery. I have it fed from the ship's instrument battery, it draws around 0.35 - 0.4A even when fully charged. An Oudie is about 0.25 - 0.3.
>
>
>
> * In sunny and warm conditions the iPhone may overheat and shut down until it cools. I found that to be nearly a killer for me. I fly in the high desert, on the ground it quickly warms up if in the sun. Once at altitude you can direct a cool air blast and keep it cool, but this limits where you put it.
>
>
>
> If and when we see a 5" iPhone 6, then it could be perfect. However the display brightness and warm shutdown may remain an issue.

Ok I bit and bought lite. Seems easy enough to configure, but now am trying to figure out how to add user way points for instance the manual says to download Cambridge way points .DAT:

"Importing own data
You can also import own datafiles into iGlide and use them in addition to the preloaded datasets or instead of the preloaded datasets"

I find this rather vague, any insite from others that have done this? Through Itunes? or direct?

[jfitch]

On Sunday, July 27, 2014 12:04:24 PM UTC-7, Glidergeek wrote:
> On Monday, July 21, 2014 1:54:05 PM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:
>
> > On Monday, July 21, 2014 10:43:44 AM UTC-7, Glidergeek wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > Anybody using the Iglide software in an Ipad or iPhone that can comment as to it's usefulness?
>
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> > Yes.
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> > I have used iGlide on an iPhone 5s and 4s. My comments:
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> > * It is by far the most advanced user interface of any available software, nicely integrating the full iOS user interface in every aspect. Swipes, pinch to zoom, touch panning, ease of editing fields and tasks, etc. puts most of the others to shame. Nearly everything you do is substantially quicker, easier, and more intuitive than the others. I own and have run SYM, XCSoar, GlideNav, Winpilot, Winpilot iOS.
>
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> >
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> >
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> > * An iPhone is *nearly* sunlight readable at around 500 nits. An iPad mini falls enough short of that (350 nits) to make it unusable for me except under dense clouds. The iPhone and iPad screens are all glossy finish, making reflections a problem. When hand held you naturally tilt the display to minimize these, but in a mount you are cannot.
>
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > * The resolution of the display somewhat compensates for the small size (iPhone), however you must mount it closer to you, and then deal with the focus issues (if you are older than 45 :) ).
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> >
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> > * The display is very configurable through both the navbox choices and the XML file specifying display choices.
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> > * The connectivity of the iPhone means that a full update of airspace, FLarm database, maps, whatever is just a click or two away.
>
> >
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> > * The Flarm display only supplies details on one chosen target. It will display a target icon and identifier for all of them, but details on only one at a time.
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> >
>
> >
>
> > * The iPhone is a little power hungry (more draw than an Oudie). It will operate maybe three hours on internal battery. I have it fed from the ship's instrument battery, it draws around 0.35 - 0.4A even when fully charged.. An Oudie is about 0.25 - 0.3.
>
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > * In sunny and warm conditions the iPhone may overheat and shut down until it cools. I found that to be nearly a killer for me. I fly in the high desert, on the ground it quickly warms up if in the sun. Once at altitude you can direct a cool air blast and keep it cool, but this limits where you put it.
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> > If and when we see a 5" iPhone 6, then it could be perfect. However the display brightness and warm shutdown may remain an issue.
>
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> Ok I bit and bought lite. Seems easy enough to configure, but now am trying to figure out how to add user way points for instance the manual says to download Cambridge way points .DAT:
>
>
>
> "Importing own data
>
> You can also import own datafiles into iGlide and use them in addition to the preloaded datasets or instead of the preloaded datasets"
>
>
>
> I find this rather vague, any insite from others that have done this? Through Itunes? or direct?

From memory, sync the iPhone, click on the Apps tab, scroll down and select iGlide. You should see the files associated with it to the right. Use the ADD button or just drag and drop the .dat file. Close and restart iGlide. It should say "incorporating new files" briefly or something like that. You can chose which turn point data base you want to use from the settings (in case you fly at more than one site). You must download the maps too, can be done from inside the app but maybe you have already done that.

While you are synced you could drag the .xml file over to your desktop and open it with a text editor. It is XML pseudocode that configures a bunch of stuff. Many of the choices are also available in setting within the program, but many are not. It isn't documented, but nearly self explanatory. Save the old file (!) so you can go back. Drag it back to the app in iTunes replacing the original, to see the effect.