PowerFlarm Problems

[Blake Seese 9V]

I have had a lot of trouble with my PowerFlarm. It has been sent back under recall twice and is still not reliable. It continues to lose GPS lock and I keep loosing flights because the Oudie it is supporting is set not to switch to internal GPS per instructions from the Flarm people. Is anyone else having trouble with their Flarm unit?

I have asked the Flarm people to replace the unit with a factory new one, since I do not believe this one can be fixed properly and I have no faith in it. They want me to send it in a third time for a main board replacement (2nd one) but I just don't have faith that it will be a reliable unit.

Am I asking too much to have them replace my defective Flarm with a new one? I wrote to them directly, and for a week now I have had no reply. The company I work for would replace a defective part no questions asked. Why are the guys at Flarm blowing me off?

Thanks,

9V

[Brian[_1_]]

They are a business and they have their processes, if they think a main board replacement will fix it (the 3rd one) let them try. But ask them why they think the 3rd one will fix it when the 2nd didn't, Advise you don't think it will fix it. Also ask what will the plan be if the 3rd board does not fix it as you expect and that you would prefer a whole unit replacement rather than just trying fix this one again.

BTW I work this kind of thing all the time, often the company knows more than they are willing tell you. They may have been guessing the 1st time with the main board but now may know why then 3rd board should fix it when the 2nd one didn't.

Brian

[WAVEGURU]

Maybe you should switch to 12V? ;-)

Sorry.

[jfitch]

Good one! But more seriously, all of these boards/products have been in the same installation. Are you sure that is solid?

For example the GPS active antenna might be at fault? Or too close to other GPS antennas or other equipment (they do suffer interference in those cases)? Or a bad cable?

It seems highly unlikely that once they replaced the main board, there would still be the same fault in the board. You may need to debug your installation, at least until you can reasonably prove that it is not the problem.

[Blake Seese 9V]

On Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:05:24 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
> Good one! But more seriously, all of these boards/products have been in the same installation. Are you sure that is solid?
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> For example the GPS active antenna might be at fault? Or too close to other GPS antennas or other equipment (they do suffer interference in those cases)? Or a bad cable?
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> It seems highly unlikely that once they replaced the main board, there would still be the same fault in the board. You may need to debug your installation, at least until you can reasonably prove that it is not the problem.

I can't swear that the cable is not the fault, but before the first send back (recall) I never had any problems. I guess the main thing that bugs me is that when I wrote to them to plead my case, they didn't even bother to reply.

I ordered a Flarm very early, before they were even released. I supported them and their technology. Now when I have problems, they are not even responding to my email. I have been very patient and have tried to be respectful and rational. I don't really know what to do next. I guess I will have to send it back for yet another main board replacement. No offense to Williams Soaring, but I don't think a repair at a glider shop is the equivalent of factory and so far, it hasn't been. Honestly I am not trying to dis on Williams Soaring, so please don't take it that way. Just very frustrated! I certainly welcome any advise.
Thanks,
9V

[Doug Mueller]

At 03:08 12 August 2014, Blake Seese 9V wrote:
>On Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:05:24 AM UTC-6, jfitch wrote:
>> Good one! But more seriously, all of these boards/products
have been in
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>he same installation. Are you sure that is solid?
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>> For example the GPS active antenna might be at fault? Or
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interference in those
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>ses)? Or a bad cable?
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>> It seems highly unlikely that once they replaced the main
board, there
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>uld still be the same fault in the board. You may need to debug
your
>instal=
>lation, at least until you can reasonably prove that it is not the
problem.
>
>I can't swear that the cable is not the fault, but before the first
send
>ba=
>ck (recall) I never had any problems. I guess the main thing
that bugs me
>i=
>s that when I wrote to them to plead my case, they didn't even
bother to
>re=
>ply.
>
>I ordered a Flarm very early, before they were even released.
I supported
>t=
>hem and their technology. Now when I have problems, they
are not even
>respo=
>nding to my email. I have been very patient and have tried to
be
>respectful=
> and rational. I don't really know what to do next. I guess I
will have
>to=
> send it back for yet another main board replacement. No
offense to
>William=
>s Soaring, but I don't think a repair at a glider shop is the
equivalent
>of=
> factory and so far, it hasn't been. Honestly I am not trying to
dis on
>Wil=
>liams Soaring, so please don't take it that way. Just very
frustrated! I
>ce=
>rtainly welcome any advise.
>Thanks,
>9V
>
Blake, Is the Flarm set to 19200 baud and also the Oudie? I
might call Paul Remde at Cumulus or Richard at Craggy for
other ideas. D

[Blake Seese 9V]

On Saturday, August 9, 2014 6:23:26 PM UTC-6, Blake Seese 9V wrote:
> I have had a lot of trouble with my PowerFlarm. It has been sent back under recall twice and is still not reliable. It continues to lose GPS lock and I keep loosing flights because the Oudie it is supporting is set not to switch to internal GPS per instructions from the Flarm people. Is anyone else having trouble with their Flarm unit?
>
>
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> I have asked the Flarm people to replace the unit with a factory new one, since I do not believe this one can be fixed properly and I have no faith in it. They want me to send it in a third time for a main board replacement (2nd one) but I just don't have faith that it will be a reliable unit.
>
>
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> Am I asking too much to have them replace my defective Flarm with a new one? I wrote to them directly, and for a week now I have had no reply. The company I work for would replace a defective part no questions asked. Why are the guys at Flarm blowing me off?
>
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> Thanks,
>
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> 9V

Flarm guys finally got back to me and denied a replacement. My only option is to send it back to Williams Soaring for yet another board replacement. I am not at all satisfied with this, but apparently have no other choice. I will post again once I get it back and find out if it works.

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

Suggest you swap the core with one in a known working installation, and see if the problem migrates. Try the other core with your installation, too. It is fairly easy to see where the problem is if the problem moves (or doesn't). If you think your GPS is the culprit, swap in a known working GPS puck and see if that cures it.

Finally, if your shortened the leads on the GPS antenna, or the flarm dipoles, it would be worthwhile going in and checking your soldering.

2D
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> Flarm guys finally got back to me and denied a replacement. My only option is to send it back to Williams Soaring for yet another board replacement. I am not at all satisfied with this, but apparently have no other choice. I will post again once I get it back and find out if it works.