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Larry Dighera
August 24th 14, 01:02 PM
Subject: Reminder | Join us to help save Santa Monica Airport!
From: "AOPA - Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association" >
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:15:54 -0400 (EDT)

Help Save SMO!
Please join Santa Monicans for Open and Honest Development Decisions.

AOPA President Mark Baker and NBAA President Ed Bolen will be joining us to
talk about the most significant land use decision in Santa Monica History.

Please bring your friends and neighbors to learn more about this voters decide
initiative and how you can support the effort to get this ballot measure passed
on November 4 and help save Santa Monica Airport!.
Date: Monday, August 25, 2014
Time: 7:00pm
Location: Justice Aviation
3011 Airport Ave
Santa Monica, CA 90405
Learn more (http://www.smvotersdecide.com/) about the Voter's Decide
initiative.

RSVP not required, but appreciated. Please email:
) and type “Santa Monica” in the subject line.

Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association
421 Aviation Way • Frederick, MD 21701–4708
(800) 872–2672 • www.aopa.org

September 4th 14, 10:29 PM
On Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:02:38 AM UTC-5, Larry Dighera wrote:
> Subject: Reminder | Join us to help save Santa Monica Airport!
>
> From: "AOPA - Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association" >
>
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:15:54 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
>
> Help Save SMO!
>
> Please join Santa Monicans for Open and Honest Development Decisions.
>
>
>
> AOPA President Mark Baker and NBAA President Ed Bolen will be joining us to
>
> talk about the most significant land use decision in Santa Monica History.
>
>
>
> Please bring your friends and neighbors to learn more about this voters decide
>
> initiative and how you can support the effort to get this ballot measure passed
>
> on November 4 and help save Santa Monica Airport!.
>
> Date: Monday, August 25, 2014
>
> Time: 7:00pm
>
> Location: Justice Aviation
>
> 3011 Airport Ave
>
> Santa Monica, CA 90405
>
> Learn more (http://www.smvotersdecide.com/) about the Voter's Decide
>
> initiative.
>
>
>
> RSVP not required, but appreciated. Please email:
>

I'm guessing the crowd was small enough to fit in a Cessna, not a 777, tee hee.
Why should 5 percent of Santa Monica's land to restricted to .00001 percent of the population to use ??

Orval Fairbairn
September 5th 14, 03:27 AM
In article >,
wrote:

> On Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:02:38 AM UTC-5, Larry Dighera wrote:
> > Subject: Reminder | Join us to help save Santa Monica Airport!
> >
> > From: "AOPA - Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association"
> > >
> >
> > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:15:54 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >
> >
> > Help Save SMO!
> >
> > Please join Santa Monicans for Open and Honest Development Decisions.
> >
> >
> >
> > AOPA President Mark Baker and NBAA President Ed Bolen will be joining us to
> >
> > talk about the most significant land use decision in Santa Monica History.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please bring your friends and neighbors to learn more about this voters
> > decide
> >
> > initiative and how you can support the effort to get this ballot measure
> > passed
> >
> > on November 4 and help save Santa Monica Airport!.
> >
> > Date: Monday, August 25, 2014
> >
> > Time: 7:00pm
> >
> > Location: Justice Aviation
> >
> > 3011 Airport Ave
> >
> > Santa Monica, CA 90405
> >
> > Learn more (http://www.smvotersdecide.com/) about the Voter's Decide
> >
> > initiative.
> >
> >
> >
> > RSVP not required, but appreciated. Please email:
> >
>
> I'm guessing the crowd was small enough to fit in a Cessna, not a 777, tee
> hee.
> Why should 5 percent of Santa Monica's land to restricted to .00001 percent
> of the population to use ??

Why should it go to developers, who will just take the money and run?

When the Big One hits, you will probably be one of the first ones out
there crying for aid, which will come in via SMO, since all the freeways
will be clogged. SMO is just another part of the transportation system
and is irreplaceable.

Larry Dighera
September 5th 14, 03:01 PM
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 14:29:03 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

>Why should 5 percent of Santa Monica's land to restricted to .00001 percent of the population to use ??

Because the land belonged to the federal government, and the city agreed to
hold it in perpetuity as an airport as a condition of receipt of said land? The
airport isn't merely land, it is an integral part of the National Airspace
System. Removal of components of the NAS degrades the entire system.

Why should developers be permitted to violate the agreement by which the city
acquired the airport land?

Why should nearby homeowners receive a boost in home value as a result of an
illegal land grab? The price they paid for their homes was doubtlessly
influenced by the proximity of the airport.

Why did the city permit construction of homes so close to the airport? That
would seem to qualify as an admission of malfeasance in office.

Why are you so anti aviation?

September 6th 14, 01:01 AM
On Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:27:32 PM UTC-5, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> In article >,
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sunday, August 24, 2014 7:02:38 AM UTC-5, Larry Dighera wrote:
>
> > > Subject: Reminder | Join us to help save Santa Monica Airport!
>
> > >
>
> > > From: "AOPA - Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association"
>
> > > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 10:15:54 -0400 (EDT)
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Help Save SMO!
>
> > >
>
> > > Please join Santa Monicans for Open and Honest Development Decisions.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > AOPA President Mark Baker and NBAA President Ed Bolen will be joining us to
>
> > >
>
> > > talk about the most significant land use decision in Santa Monica History.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > Please bring your friends and neighbors to learn more about this voters
>
> > > decide
>
> > >
>
> > > initiative and how you can support the effort to get this ballot measure
>
> > > passed
>
> > >
>
> > > on November 4 and help save Santa Monica Airport!.
>
> > >
>
> > > Date: Monday, August 25, 2014
>
> > >
>
> > > Time: 7:00pm
>
> > >
>
> > > Location: Justice Aviation
>
> > >
>
> > > 3011 Airport Ave
>
> > >
>
> > > Santa Monica, CA 90405
>
> > >
>
> > > Learn more (http://www.smvotersdecide.com/) about the Voter's Decide
>
> > >
>
> > > initiative.
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > RSVP not required, but appreciated. Please email:
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > I'm guessing the crowd was small enough to fit in a Cessna, not a 777, tee
>
> > hee.
>
> > Why should 5 percent of Santa Monica's land to restricted to .00001 percent
>
> > of the population to use ??
>
>
>
> Why should it go to developers, who will just take the money and run?

The resulting buildings, residential or commercial, will generate jobs and revenues far greater than what current SMO users provide. Just look at the development further south at Playa Vista and the old Hughes site.

> When the Big One hits, you will probably be one of the first ones out
>
> there crying for aid, which will come in via SMO, since all the freeways

The "aid" could just as easily use LAX, whatever "aid" is considered so critical that it must be flown in. Most supplies will come overland from Inland Empire warehouses.

September 6th 14, 01:08 AM
On Friday, September 5, 2014 9:01:47 AM UTC-5, Larry Dighera wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 14:29:03 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>
>
> >Why should 5 percent of Santa Monica's land to restricted to .00001 percent of the population to use ??
>
>
>
> Because the land belonged to the federal government, and the city agreed to
>
> hold it in perpetuity as an airport as a condition of receipt of said land?

In Perpetuity ?? Forever and ever ?? Sorry but times change and eventually land moves on to higher and better uses.

The
>
> airport isn't merely land, it is an integral part of the National Airspace
>
> System. Removal of components of the NAS degrades the entire system.
>
>
>
> Why should developers be permitted to violate the agreement by which the city
>
> acquired the airport land?
>
> Why did the city permit construction of homes so close to the airport? That
>
> would seem to qualify as an admission of malfeasance in office.

A lot of the houses are in adjoining LA city. What should have been done, should the orange groves been kept ??

>
>
>
> Why are you so anti aviation?

Me, "anti-aviation" ?? Just another personal attack from a side with few logical
points to defend their position. In fact I've been watching a heli-pad being built 3 miles from Chicago's downtown by a private developer. But you have to be super-liquid to afford a helo in the city.

Bug Dout
September 13th 14, 04:43 AM
writes:

> Why should 5 percent of Santa Monica's land to restricted to .00001
> percent of the population to use ??

Why should a city have a park? Not everyone will use it. Likewise for
quite a number of city features.

Not everything of worth is measured by the strict economic utility of
it.
--
"If Python is executable pseudocode, then perl is executable line
noise."

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Bug Dout
September 13th 14, 04:45 AM
writes:

> A lot of the houses are in adjoining LA city. What should have been
> done, should the orange groves been kept ??
Some of them, yes. LA would be a lot more pleasant if the developers
hadn't had free reign for decades.
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Orval Fairbairn
September 13th 14, 04:30 PM
In article >,
Bug Dout > wrote:

> writes:
>
> > Why should 5 percent of Santa Monica's land to restricted to .00001
> > percent of the population to use ??
>
> Why should a city have a park? Not everyone will use it. Likewise for
> quite a number of city features.
>
> Not everything of worth is measured by the strict economic utility of
> it.

Yes -- Just look at all that valuable property going to waste as parks,
when it could be sold to developers who would build new Century Cities
on the land!

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