Mounting camera on wing of glider

[Sierra Whiskey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQqq_SDCwnA&sns=em

GoPro, Suction Mount, lots of Tape. Worked Great at high speeds and through the rain.

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On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:09:27 PM UTC-7, Sierra Whiskey wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQqq_SDCwnA&sns=em
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I second the vote for tape.

For a suction cup mount to work you have to use a really good one that still "sucks" at the maximum altitude you ultimately reach. Judicious use of gaffers tape helps just in case you guess wrong, but with an unsprung suction cup the mount can get wobbly. you can also make a small metal plate with a felt on the bottom and a 1/4-20 bolt sticking out the top for a standard camera screw mount (or affix a GoPro mount if that's what you are using). You can tape this down to practically any reasonably flat surface.

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Get a GoPro Hero 3. Great suction cup mounts. Remote control for video or stills using your cell phone or their remote button.

[Sean Fidler]

+1.

I also use the GoPro suction cup and duct tape. This method has not failed me yet. I used to simply not bother with tape and had no problems for roughly 2 years (dozens of flights). Then, I had an unfortunate event where the suction cut let go after a bump on the runway. Fortunately the GoPro was completely fine. Fortunately the GoPro did not fall onto anyone from altitude. After that, I realized that the suction cup alone was irresponsible.. From that point forward I always use plenty of white duct tape in a square pattern making sure do it very tightly with no gaps. Seal tape (or electrical tape) is probably not strong enough nor would it survive rain. The tape needs to be as strong as possible. Duct tape and Gorilla tape seems best and I have never had any issues with it damaging the wing surface (gelcoat or poly).

The duct taped mount method is so strong in fact that I suspect it would survive a decent size bird strike. It is extremely secure. Just make sure that the surface you are taping the mount to is clean and that you are (important) NOT trying to suction onto to an area of the wing (or tail or especially fuselage) that has a lot of curvature. I try to use the flattest possible part of the airfoil, usually 65-85% aft of the leading edge.

Happy filming!

Sean

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I'd still recommend Gaffer tape over duct tape. It's not expensive and comes in white. Gaffer tape is a tough, cotton cloth pressure-sensitive tape with strong adhesive properties. It is used in theater, film and television productions as well as any kind of stage work. While related to duct tape, it differs in that it can be removed cleanly because it uses a synthetic petroleum-based adhesive rather than a natural rubber adhesive.

[WAVEGURU]

Where can we find "gaffer tape"?

Boggs

[Vaughn]

On 8/28/2014 10:24 AM, Waveguru wrote:
> Where can we find "gaffer tape"?

You find it where you find everything else, Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/JVCC-GAFF30YD-Premium-Grade-Gaffers/dp/B000QC7APK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1409236675&sr=8-3&keywords=gaffers+tape

[JS]

A good place to get gaffer tape or AA/AAA/9V batteries is TMB.
http://www.tmb.com/
If your order doesn't fill the box, they use white socks for filler. Always a hit.
Gaffer tape is to duct tape what Bowlus tape is to cheap electrical tape.
Far superior, but more expensive.
Jim

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 7:24:39 AM UTC-7, Waveguru wrote:
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[Sean Fidler]

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 1:21:28 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> I'd still recommend Gaffer tape over duct tape. It's not expensive and comes in white. Gaffer tape is a tough, cotton cloth pressure-sensitive tape with strong adhesive properties. It is used in theater, film and television productions as well as any kind of stage work. While related to duct tape, it differs in that it can be removed cleanly because it uses a synthetic petroleum-based adhesive rather than a natural rubber adhesive.

Interesting. Ordered some and will try.

Thanks,

Sean

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

Vaughn wrote, On 8/28/2014 7:38 AM:
> On 8/28/2014 10:24 AM, Waveguru wrote:
>> Where can we find "gaffer tape"?
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> You find it where you find everything else, Amazon.
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> http://www.amazon.com/JVCC-GAFF30YD-Premium-Grade-Gaffers/dp/B000QC7APK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1409236675&sr=8-3&keywords=gaffers+tape

The info for the referenced tape uses natural rubber adhesive, but it
also says it " Will not leave adhesive residue behind when removed"

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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

[Frank Whiteley]

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:52:42 PM UTC-6, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> Vaughn wrote, On 8/28/2014 7:38 AM:
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> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
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> email me)
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> - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"
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> https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1
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> - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
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> http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

I'll ask my son when I see him. He's a theater lighting and sound stage guy and uses gaffer's tape regularly. He even had some holding part of the front body work on his car recently.

Frank Whiteley

[Sierra Whiskey]

I use Gaffers Tape at work for various applications. It does leave residue when exposed to heat (Direct Sunlight) for some period of time. It works VERY well, however when I took my wingtip video I opted not to use gaffers tape in fear of pulling up the gel coat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVBIIHNt7Rg
This was a video I shot with the same GoPro Hero 3. I used the suction mount again on the horizontal, and secured it with regular white bowlus gap seal. It worked great! See my YouTube Channel for more Tail Mounted videos. The GoPro Hero 3 wireless control option is great for taking videos like this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQqq_SDCwnA
This video I shared earlier, but again with my GoPro Hero 3 on a suction mount and secured with tape. On this attempt I used the Cloth Tape (Usually used as control surface gap seal). It worked well, and provided a better surface area for me to work with.

In Both videos, you can see that the Suction mount with LOTS of added tape is fairly rigid and works well at high speeds. I don't trust the suction mount which is why I add so much tape. The nice thing about the suction mount is that there is a lot of surface area to use when securing the mount with tape.

-SW



On Friday, August 29, 2014 4:16:16 PM UTC-7, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> On Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:52:42 PM UTC-6, Eric Greenwell wrote:
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> > https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1
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> > - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
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> > http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl
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> I'll ask my son when I see him. He's a theater lighting and sound stage guy and uses gaffer's tape regularly. He even had some holding part of the front body work on his car recently.
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[David Kinsell[_2_]]

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:33:49 -0700, drguyacheson wrote:

> Get a GoPro Hero 3. Great suction cup mounts. Remote control for video
> or stills using your cell phone or their remote button.

I'd never trust a suction cup by itself. Might work 19 times out of 20,
then you're out a GoPro.

Adhesive mounts for GoPro generally use 3M VHB (very high bond) tape,
intended to be permanent, but can be removed cleanly with difficulty
using heat. See "Parowan Motorglider" on youtube. Next time I think
I'll go with the gaffer's tape over suction cup mount.