Future of Surveillance/Attack Helicopters

[Dave Jackson]

Hundreds of small low-cost UAV helicopters are located at dozens of secure
sites, within an area of conflict. When required, a remote pilot, who may
be located thousands of miles away, will cause a number of these helicopters
to takeoff and fly to separate GPS coordinates.

The remote pilot may then selectively use these UAV's for surveillance, or
land them to await further instructions.

An attack will consist of flying the UAV into the target, since the cost
will be less than that of separating the delivery vehicle and the weapon.

The pilot will be referred to as a VKP ~ for Virtual Kamikaze Pilot :)
__________________________

Eventually, surplus components will appear on the market. At which time
homebuilt affectionados will start using these parts to produce homebuilt
helicopters, possibly for the European JAR-VLR and the US Sport Plane/Pilot
categories.


A dream, a reality, or a nightmare ???? :)

[DumDum]

El Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:49:29 GMT, Dave Jackson =
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> Hundreds of small low-cost UAV helicopters are located at dozens of =

> secure
> sites, within an area of conflict. When required, a remote pilot, who=
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> may
> be located thousands of miles away, will cause a number of these =

> helicopters
> to takeoff and fly to separate GPS coordinates.
>
> The remote pilot may then selectively use these UAV's for surveillance=
, =

> or
> land them to await further instructions.
>
> An attack will consist of flying the UAV into the target, since the co=
st
> will be less than that of separating the delivery vehicle and the weap=
on.
>
> The pilot will be referred to as a VKP ~ for Virtual Kamikaze Pilot :=
)
> __________________________
>
> Eventually, surplus components will appear on the market. At which ti=
me
> homebuilt affectionados will start using these parts to produce homebu=
ilt
> helicopters, possibly for the European JAR-VLR and the US Sport =

> Plane/Pilot
> categories.
>
>
> A dream, a reality, or a nightmare ???? :)
>
>
>
>
>


So so, Will be developed an VERY small ucav to be used on helos and grou=
nd =

troops, launched on a rocket. Will fly to the reconnaissance area and th=
en =

will start an prop to flyover and mark hard targets. then missiles like =

the hellfire will eliminate all objectives.

No special chopper will be developed, thats also apply to the X-50 UCAV.=

Sorry dreamer
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regards.

[Badwater Bill]

On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:49:29 GMT, "Dave Jackson"
> wrote:

>Hundreds of small low-cost UAV helicopters are located at dozens of secure
>sites, within an area of conflict. When required, a remote pilot, who may
>be located thousands of miles away, will cause a number of these helicopters
>to takeoff and fly to separate GPS coordinates.
>
>The remote pilot may then selectively use these UAV's for surveillance, or
>land them to await further instructions.
>
>An attack will consist of flying the UAV into the target, since the cost
>will be less than that of separating the delivery vehicle and the weapon.
>
>The pilot will be referred to as a VKP ~ for Virtual Kamikaze Pilot :)
>__________________________
>
>Eventually, surplus components will appear on the market. At which time
>homebuilt affectionados will start using these parts to produce homebuilt
>helicopters, possibly for the European JAR-VLR and the US Sport Plane/Pilot
>categories.
>
>
>A dream, a reality, or a nightmare ???? :)


I agree with you. The UAV's are getting more sophisitcated all the
time. I sort of disagree with you about the parts and the components
being sound for private use however. I flew government "Public"
category aircraft most of my life. None of them ever had an
airworthiness certificate. They had holes drilled all over them and
were continually modified to meet various mission needs.

A UAV is even more expendable than the governmnet "junk" I flew. I
think something as cheap as the old Mini-500 is a more likely
candidate for a UAV than a sophisitcated high quality ship that might
last a while. In my opinion, a ship like the Mini-500 is living proof
you can build a helicopter out of K-mart parts that wear out quickly.
If UAV's don't need Normal or Utility airworthiness certificates they
can be built much more inexpensively and still work for the various
missions just fine, yet you might not ever want to risk a human life
in them.

Bill

[Dave Jackson]

>DumDum wrote in message
>No special chopper will be developed.

Maybe yes, maybe no. There must be an effective way to spot small terrorist
groups and a fast way to respond to them. IMHO, this can best be done by
craft that have vertical takeoff and landing capability; VTOL craft that are
extremely small, cheap and can be produced by the thousands.

They would be automatically flown to and 'parked' at hundreds of
pre-selected sites. There they would act as re-locatable surveillance
devices. They can park and observe for extended periods, due to the very
small power demand in this mode. When called upon, they can quickly move to
and self-destruct on an aggressor.

'Small tools for small projects'


>Badwater Bill wrote in message
>I sort of disagree with you about the parts and the components
> being sound for private use however.

Agreed. It was an afterthought and was sort of a dream for the rebirth of
recreational rotorcraft. [Safe rotorcraft of course :)]

[DumDum]

El Wed, 03 Mar 2004 21:23:39 GMT, Dave Jackson =
> =

escribi=F3:


> Maybe yes, maybe no. There must be an effective way to spot small =

> terrorist
> groups and a fast way to respond to them. IMHO, this can best be done=
by
> craft that have vertical takeoff and landing capability; VTOL craft th=
at =

> are
> extremely small, cheap and can be produced by the thousands.
>
> They would be automatically flown to and 'parked' at hundreds of
> pre-selected sites. There they would act as re-locatable surveillance=

> devices. They can park and observe for extended periods, due to the ve=
ry
> small power demand in this mode. When called upon, they can quickly =

> move to
> and self-destruct on an aggressor.
>
> 'Small tools for small projects'
>

Sorry the parked mode is too vulnerable, small reconnaissance groups od =

troopber could destroy it easy.

The UAV that I mention like a small tomahawk, a rocket launches it throu=
gh =

a ballistic trajectory to the area, then the wings are deployed & a smal=
l =

two-stroke engine push the drone, instead of radar or war head a =

simplified & miniaturized sensor like the Snipper XL gives the detection=
..
These UAV can fly by two to four days.

Yes a small and recreative personal helicopter, is not only a dream, is =
a =

right, I saw some interesting projects at Oskosh.

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Saludos, Illuminati N.W.O.

[Dave Jackson]

>DumDum wrote in message
>Sorry the parked mode is too vulnerable, small reconnaissance groups od
> troopber could destroy it easy.

Yes but;
The microlight VTOL has its surveillance equipment working while it is
parked. In addition, it has the ability to quickly relocate or attack the
attacker. In fact, if it is attacked, another one that is three blocks away
is sent over to join the fight.

Even if it is destroyed, its no big deal, since there are hundreds more of
these little critters waiting to take its place. :)) Little expendable
aerial solders, which don't go home in bodybags.

Dave

[Micbloo]

>There must be an effective way to spot small terrorist
>groups

NYC cab drivers.
:O)