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Ralph @ G-Squadron
June 13th 04, 03:57 PM
Anyone think the idea of using an autogyro as a quick-response ambulance
service is good? Wouldn't actually transport patients, but would act like
the quick response car or bike, delivering emergency help, and looking after
patients until land ambulance arrives.

I'm going to see how far I can take the scheme with ambulance services
across the UK...

I need your opinions, and suggestions for the best autogyro, gyrocopter or
gyroplane for the job.

- Ralph

June 14th 04, 02:24 AM
This might work for remote locations where good landing areas are
plentiful. Anywhere else, and you have to fight with the ground
traffic to land.

A helicopter is the only aircraft with the highest probablility of
being able to land. Gyro-anythings need a bit of a runway. Even
still, where I live, where there is emergency helicopter service, the
firemen/police have to get there first and block off a section of
roadway so that the helicopter can land. Not only that, but its
generally a fair distance from the actual scene. If you set down in a
field, you run the risk of some bull thinking your helicopter is
challenging him for all his cows. Also, here in the US there are
power lines everywhere.

It sounds like a good idea on the surface, but I think there are a lot
of problems to work out before it is feasible.

Dennis.


"Ralph @ G-Squadron" > wrote:

> Anyone think the idea of using an autogyro as a quick-response ambulance
> service is good? Wouldn't actually transport patients, but would act like
> the quick response car or bike, delivering emergency help, and looking after
> patients until land ambulance arrives.

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Dave S
June 14th 04, 07:22 AM
Landing areas, scene AND LZ security, carrying adequate equipement and
getting that equipment to the patient are all concerns. In all
likelihood you wont be landing RIGHT next to the scene.. You will have
to carry your gear. ALL of it. To EVERY scene because you dont know what
you will need until you get there. Its not like you can step back to the
ambulance 30 feet away and get something else.

You would be limited to day, VFR. I would not want to attempt night
running landings into an unprepared and unlit LZ. It is a great concept
but the applicability is not there.

Dave

Ralph @ G-Squadron wrote:

> Anyone think the idea of using an autogyro as a quick-response ambulance
> service is good? Wouldn't actually transport patients, but would act like
> the quick response car or bike, delivering emergency help, and looking after
> patients until land ambulance arrives.
>
> I'm going to see how far I can take the scheme with ambulance services
> across the UK...
>
> I need your opinions, and suggestions for the best autogyro, gyrocopter or
> gyroplane for the job.
>
> - Ralph
>
>

Shiver Me Timbers
June 14th 04, 07:25 AM
For those living in mild climate areas - I would think that a specially
equipped motorcylce with a little pull along cart full of life saving
necessetities might be practical in large urban areas were a regular
amulance might be delayed due to traffic.

Ralph @ G-Squadron
June 14th 04, 07:40 AM
"Dave S" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Landing areas, scene AND LZ security, carrying adequate equipement and
> getting that equipment to the patient are all concerns. In all
> likelihood you wont be landing RIGHT next to the scene.. You will have
> to carry your gear. ALL of it. To EVERY scene because you dont know what
> you will need until you get there. Its not like you can step back to the
> ambulance 30 feet away and get something else.
>
> You would be limited to day, VFR. I would not want to attempt night
> running landings into an unprepared and unlit LZ. It is a great concept
> but the applicability is not there.
>
> Dave

This wouldn't be difficult - here in the UK, quick response crews go out on
bicycles with *everything* they need, and this doesn't amount to a lot of
weight or size.

- Ralph

Micbloo
June 15th 04, 02:21 AM
>This wouldn't be difficult - here in the UK, quick response crews go out on
>bicycles with *everything* they need, and this doesn't amount to a lot of
>weight or size

They did that a few years ago out of a hospital in Queens (NY). Not sure if
the program is still running.

Ralph @ G-Squadron
June 15th 04, 07:49 AM
> They did that a few years ago out of a hospital in Queens (NY). Not sure
if
> the program is still running.

It's very effective - I've seen the scheme in action, and it has
dramatically evened survival rates.

- Ralph

Dave S
June 15th 04, 01:41 PM
One other thing to consider..

How many people is this thing supposed to carry? Are you going to have a
separate pilot and medic? or is the pilot supposed to be the medic too?
Obtaining and maintaining expert status on both might make for a rare
individual... I dont know of dozens of pilot/medics looking for new jobs..

Dave

Dave S wrote:

> Landing areas, scene AND LZ security, carrying adequate equipement and
> getting that equipment to the patient are all concerns. In all
> likelihood you wont be landing RIGHT next to the scene.. You will have
> to carry your gear. ALL of it. To EVERY scene because you dont know what
> you will need until you get there. Its not like you can step back to the
> ambulance 30 feet away and get something else.
>
> You would be limited to day, VFR. I would not want to attempt night
> running landings into an unprepared and unlit LZ. It is a great concept
> but the applicability is not there.
>
> Dave
>
> Ralph @ G-Squadron wrote:
>
>> Anyone think the idea of using an autogyro as a quick-response ambulance
>> service is good? Wouldn't actually transport patients, but would act
>> like
>> the quick response car or bike, delivering emergency help, and looking
>> after
>> patients until land ambulance arrives.
>>
>> I'm going to see how far I can take the scheme with ambulance services
>> across the UK...
>>
>> I need your opinions, and suggestions for the best autogyro,
>> gyrocopter or
>> gyroplane for the job.
>>
>> - Ralph
>>
>>
>

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