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[Mitchell Holman[_8_]]

[John Szalay[_2_]]

Mitchell Holman > wrote in
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>

The original P-40 with this ID HS-B was the one
found in the Egyptian desert in 2012 70 years after
it disappeared on a ferry flight to a repair depot..



http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/Articl
eView/articleId/357/Original-Kittyhawk-HS-B-Discovered.aspx

[Mitchell Holman[_8_]]

John Szalay <john.szalay.at.att.net> wrote in
31:

> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
> :
>
>>
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>> end
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>
> The original P-40 with this ID HS-B was the one
> found in the Egyptian desert in 2012 70 years after
> it disappeared on a ferry flight to a repair depot..
>
>
>
> http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/Ar
> ticl eView/articleId/357/Original-Kittyhawk-HS-B-Discovered.aspx


At least it doesn't have that overused
shark mouth thing.......

[John Szalay[_2_]]

Mitchell Holman > wrote in
>
> At least it doesn't have that overused
> shark mouth thing.......
>
>


One of the engineers I worked with for years was a P-40 & P-51
pilot with Chennault's air force in China, and he used to say the same
thing. It bothered him when everyone else used the shark motif without
asking permission from the veterans.

[®i©ardo[_3_]]

On 26/11/2014 13:32, John Szalay wrote:
> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
>>
>> At least it doesn't have that overused
>> shark mouth thing.......
>>
>>
>
>
> One of the engineers I worked with for years was a P-40 & P-51
> pilot with Chennault's air force in China, and he used to say the same
> thing. It bothered him when everyone else used the shark motif without
> asking permission from the veterans.
>

Agreed.

P-40s first saw combat with the British Commonwealth squadrons of the
Desert Air Force in the Middle East and North African campaigns, during
June 1941. No.112 Squadron Royal Air Force, was among the first to
operate Tomahawks in North Africa and the unit was the first Allied
military aviation unit to feature the "shark mouth" logo, copying
similar markings on some Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Bf 110 twin-engine
fighters from II Gruppe/Zerstörergeschwader 76.

Inspired by 112 Squadron's usage of them in North Africa, and by the
Luftwaffe's earlier use of it, both via Allied wartime newspaper and
magazine article images, the "shark mouth" logo on the sides of the
P-40's nose was most famously used on those of the Flying Tigers in China.

Ri©ardo
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[Savageduck[_3_]]

On 2014-11-26 13:32:13 +0000, John Szalay <john.szalay.at.att.net> said:

> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
>>
>> At least it doesn't have that overused
>> shark mouth thing.......
>>
>>
>
>
> One of the engineers I worked with for years was a P-40 & P-51
> pilot with Chennault's air force in China, and he used to say the same
> thing. It bothered him when everyone else used the shark motif without
> asking permission from the veterans.

Why would anybody need to get veteran approval?

That is a degree of elitism which is not justified, considering the AVG
lifted the "Shark" motif from the RAF P-40s used in North Africa & the
Mediterranean. So it was not unique to the AVG regardless of the
association.
Then many of the USAAF P-40's used in Australia and New Guinea also
used similar toothy motifs. That intake was a natural for that sort of
thing.
There were even some P-38s which used it. More recently A-10s and
AH-64s have used it.

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Savageduck

[®i©ardo[_3_]]

On 26/11/2014 16:17, ®i©ardo wrote:
> On 26/11/2014 13:32, John Szalay wrote:
>> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
>>>
>>> At least it doesn't have that overused
>>> shark mouth thing.......
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> One of the engineers I worked with for years was a P-40 & P-51
>> pilot with Chennault's air force in China, and he used to say the same
>> thing. It bothered him when everyone else used the shark motif without
>> asking permission from the veterans.
>>
>
> Agreed.
>
> P-40s first saw combat with the British Commonwealth squadrons of the
> Desert Air Force in the Middle East and North African campaigns, during
> June 1941. No.112 Squadron Royal Air Force, was among the first to
> operate Tomahawks in North Africa and the unit was the first Allied
> military aviation unit to feature the "shark mouth" logo, copying
> similar markings on some Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Bf 110 twin-engine
> fighters from II Gruppe/Zerstörergeschwader 76.
>
> Inspired by 112 Squadron's usage of them in North Africa, and by the
> Luftwaffe's earlier use of it, both via Allied wartime newspaper and
> magazine article images, the "shark mouth" logo on the sides of the
> P-40's nose was most famously used on those of the Flying Tigers in China.
>
> Ri©ardo

Here is a picture of a P40 in the colours of 112 Squadron showing those
tiger teeth.

Ri©ardo

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[Bob (not my real pseudonym)[_2_]]

On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:17:05 +0000, ®i©ardo
> wrote:

>On 26/11/2014 13:32, John Szalay wrote:
>> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
>>>
>>> At least it doesn't have that overused
>>> shark mouth thing.......
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> One of the engineers I worked with for years was a P-40 & P-51
>> pilot with Chennault's air force in China, and he used to say the same
>> thing. It bothered him when everyone else used the shark motif without
>> asking permission from the veterans.
>>
>
>Agreed.
>
>P-40s first saw combat with the British Commonwealth squadrons of the
>Desert Air Force in the Middle East and North African campaigns, during
>June 1941. No.112 Squadron Royal Air Force, was among the first to
>operate Tomahawks in North Africa and the unit was the first Allied
>military aviation unit to feature the "shark mouth" logo, copying
>similar markings on some Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Bf 110 twin-engine
>fighters from II Gruppe/Zerstörergeschwader 76.
>
>Inspired by 112 Squadron's usage of them in North Africa, and by the
>Luftwaffe's earlier use of it, both via Allied wartime newspaper and
>magazine article images, the "shark mouth" logo on the sides of the
>P-40's nose was most famously used on those of the Flying Tigers in China.
>
>Ri©ardo

Pretty sure I've seen a photo of a WWI aircraft painted with a
sharkmouth.

Warriors using paint and masks to enhance their warriorness dates back
at least a few (thousnad) years before that.

I want to see a great white shark with a P-40 painted on its nose...

[®i©ardo[_3_]]

On 27/11/2014 08:35, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:17:05 +0000, ®i©ardo
> > wrote:
>
>> On 26/11/2014 13:32, John Szalay wrote:
>>> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
>>>>
>>>> At least it doesn't have that overused
>>>> shark mouth thing.......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One of the engineers I worked with for years was a P-40 & P-51
>>> pilot with Chennault's air force in China, and he used to say the same
>>> thing. It bothered him when everyone else used the shark motif without
>>> asking permission from the veterans.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> P-40s first saw combat with the British Commonwealth squadrons of the
>> Desert Air Force in the Middle East and North African campaigns, during
>> June 1941. No.112 Squadron Royal Air Force, was among the first to
>> operate Tomahawks in North Africa and the unit was the first Allied
>> military aviation unit to feature the "shark mouth" logo, copying
>> similar markings on some Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Bf 110 twin-engine
>> fighters from II Gruppe/Zerstörergeschwader 76.
>>
>> Inspired by 112 Squadron's usage of them in North Africa, and by the
>> Luftwaffe's earlier use of it, both via Allied wartime newspaper and
>> magazine article images, the "shark mouth" logo on the sides of the
>> P-40's nose was most famously used on those of the Flying Tigers in China.
>>
>> Ri©ardo
>
> Pretty sure I've seen a photo of a WWI aircraft painted with a
> sharkmouth.
>

There's one here:

http://www.ww2f.com/topic/53384-the-flying-shark-mouth/

> Warriors using paint and masks to enhance their warriorness dates back
> at least a few (thousnad) years before that.
>
> I want to see a great white shark with a P-40 painted on its nose...
>

Some people do go a bit over the top, though:

http://airsoc.com/articles/view/id/53a13567c6f8fada2100038a/lancaster-bomber-with-shark-mouth-markings

;-)

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[®i©ardo[_3_]]

On 27/11/2014 12:35, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 09:51:58 +0000, ®i©ardo > wrote:
>
>> On 27/11/2014 08:35, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
>>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:17:05 +0000, ®i©ardo
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 26/11/2014 13:32, John Szalay wrote:
>>>>> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least it doesn't have that overused
>>>>>> shark mouth thing.......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the engineers I worked with for years was a P-40 & P-51
>>>>> pilot with Chennault's air force in China, and he used to say the same
>>>>> thing. It bothered him when everyone else used the shark motif without
>>>>> asking permission from the veterans.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>> P-40s first saw combat with the British Commonwealth squadrons of the
>>>> Desert Air Force in the Middle East and North African campaigns, during
>>>> June 1941. No.112 Squadron Royal Air Force, was among the first to
>>>> operate Tomahawks in North Africa and the unit was the first Allied
>>>> military aviation unit to feature the "shark mouth" logo, copying
>>>> similar markings on some Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Bf 110 twin-engine
>>>> fighters from II Gruppe/Zerstörergeschwader 76.
>>>>
>>>> Inspired by 112 Squadron's usage of them in North Africa, and by the
>>>> Luftwaffe's earlier use of it, both via Allied wartime newspaper and
>>>> magazine article images, the "shark mouth" logo on the sides of the
>>>> P-40's nose was most famously used on those of the Flying Tigers in China.
>>>>
>>>> Ri©ardo
>>>
>>> Pretty sure I've seen a photo of a WWI aircraft painted with a
>>> sharkmouth.
>>>
>>
>> There's one here:
>>
>> http://www.ww2f.com/topic/53384-the-flying-shark-mouth/
>>
>>> Warriors using paint and masks to enhance their warriorness dates back
>>> at least a few (thousnad) years before that.
>>>
>>> I want to see a great white shark with a P-40 painted on its nose...
>>>
>>
>> Some people do go a bit over the top, though:
>>
>> http://airsoc.com/articles/view/id/53a13567c6f8fada2100038a/lancaster-bomber-with-shark-mouth-markings
>>
>> ;-)
>
> Actually, that doesn't look too bad. Being realistic, as an aviator, would you
> want to fly a Lancaster with shark mouths or a more appropriate image of a water
> buffalo?
>

Yes, grin, I know what my choice would be!

Ri©ardo

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[Bob (not my real pseudonym)[_2_]]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 09:51:58 +0000, ®i©ardo
> wrote:

>On 27/11/2014 08:35, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:17:05 +0000, ®i©ardo
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 26/11/2014 13:32, John Szalay wrote:
>>>> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
>>>>>
>>>>> At least it doesn't have that overused
>>>>> shark mouth thing.......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One of the engineers I worked with for years was a P-40 & P-51
>>>> pilot with Chennault's air force in China, and he used to say the same
>>>> thing. It bothered him when everyone else used the shark motif without
>>>> asking permission from the veterans.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>>
>>> P-40s first saw combat with the British Commonwealth squadrons of the
>>> Desert Air Force in the Middle East and North African campaigns, during
>>> June 1941. No.112 Squadron Royal Air Force, was among the first to
>>> operate Tomahawks in North Africa and the unit was the first Allied
>>> military aviation unit to feature the "shark mouth" logo, copying
>>> similar markings on some Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Bf 110 twin-engine
>>> fighters from II Gruppe/Zerstörergeschwader 76.
>>>
>>> Inspired by 112 Squadron's usage of them in North Africa, and by the
>>> Luftwaffe's earlier use of it, both via Allied wartime newspaper and
>>> magazine article images, the "shark mouth" logo on the sides of the
>>> P-40's nose was most famously used on those of the Flying Tigers in China.
>>>
>>> Ri©ardo
>>
>> Pretty sure I've seen a photo of a WWI aircraft painted with a
>> sharkmouth.
>>
>
>There's one here:
>
>http://www.ww2f.com/topic/53384-the-flying-shark-mouth/
>
>> Warriors using paint and masks to enhance their warriorness dates back
>> at least a few (thousnad) years before that.
>>
>> I want to see a great white shark with a P-40 painted on its nose...
>>
>
>Some people do go a bit over the top, though:
>
>http://airsoc.com/articles/view/id/53a13567c6f8fada2100038a/lancaster-bomber-with-shark-mouth-markings
>
>;-)

One of my favorites were the Neptunes operated by VP-69 out of NAS
Whidbey Island back in the olde days.

[®i©ardo[_3_]]

On 28/11/2014 09:50, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 09:51:58 +0000, ®i©ardo
> > wrote:
>
>> On 27/11/2014 08:35, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
>>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:17:05 +0000, ®i©ardo
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 26/11/2014 13:32, John Szalay wrote:
>>>>> Mitchell Holman > wrote in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least it doesn't have that overused
>>>>>> shark mouth thing.......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the engineers I worked with for years was a P-40 & P-51
>>>>> pilot with Chennault's air force in China, and he used to say the same
>>>>> thing. It bothered him when everyone else used the shark motif without
>>>>> asking permission from the veterans.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>> P-40s first saw combat with the British Commonwealth squadrons of the
>>>> Desert Air Force in the Middle East and North African campaigns, during
>>>> June 1941. No.112 Squadron Royal Air Force, was among the first to
>>>> operate Tomahawks in North Africa and the unit was the first Allied
>>>> military aviation unit to feature the "shark mouth" logo, copying
>>>> similar markings on some Luftwaffe Messerschmitt Bf 110 twin-engine
>>>> fighters from II Gruppe/Zerstörergeschwader 76.
>>>>
>>>> Inspired by 112 Squadron's usage of them in North Africa, and by the
>>>> Luftwaffe's earlier use of it, both via Allied wartime newspaper and
>>>> magazine article images, the "shark mouth" logo on the sides of the
>>>> P-40's nose was most famously used on those of the Flying Tigers in China.
>>>>
>>>> Ri©ardo
>>>
>>> Pretty sure I've seen a photo of a WWI aircraft painted with a
>>> sharkmouth.
>>>
>>
>> There's one here:
>>
>> http://www.ww2f.com/topic/53384-the-flying-shark-mouth/
>>
>>> Warriors using paint and masks to enhance their warriorness dates back
>>> at least a few (thousnad) years before that.
>>>
>>> I want to see a great white shark with a P-40 painted on its nose...
>>>
>>
>> Some people do go a bit over the top, though:
>>
>> http://airsoc.com/articles/view/id/53a13567c6f8fada2100038a/lancaster-bomber-with-shark-mouth-markings
>>
>> ;-)
>
> One of my favorites were the Neptunes operated by VP-69 out of NAS
> Whidbey Island back in the olde days.
>

This one made me smile!

Ri©ardo

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