SMALLL airplanes..

[BllFs6]

Hi all...

The discussion about aluminum vs composites and running across some stuff on
the hummel bird got me thinking...

What are the REALLY small homebuilts out there?

The hummel bird and tennie two - aluminum construction....

The Cri Cri - mostly aluminum?

KR1 - composite.....small, but is it REALLY small like the previous 2?

Is there a smallllllll rag and tube homebuilt?

A smallllll mostly wood homebuilt?

A smalllll canard of any type of construction? Quickie? Dragon Fly?

Any other ones/ideas?

Note that I am not talking so much about ultralights (which generally just dont
wiegh much)...I am talking smalllll one/.75 person airplanes that LOOK like
"real" airplanes...of course your definition may differ :)

take care

Blll

[Rich S.]

"BllFs6" > wrote in message
...
>> Is there a smallllllll rag and tube homebuilt?
>
> A smallllll mostly wood homebuilt?
>
> A smalllll canard of any type of construction? Quickie? Dragon Fly?

Here's one that qualifies for two of the three -
http://www.harbornet.com/folks/shankland/onyx.jpg

Power is a 12 hp Onan.

Rich S.

[Stealth Pilot]

On 04 May 2004 15:00:09 GMT, (BllFs6) wrote:

>Hi all...
>
>The discussion about aluminum vs composites and running across some stuff on
>the hummel bird got me thinking...
>
>What are the REALLY small homebuilts out there?
>
<snip>
>
>Is there a smallllllll rag and tube homebuilt?
cassutt racer
stits skybaby (in the eaa museum)
hegy's chuparosa
>
>A smallllll mostly wood homebuilt?
Corby Starlet
Jodel D9
Druine Turbulent
Bruger Collibri
>
>A smalllll canard of any type of construction? Quickie? Dragon Fly?
yeah the quickie
>
>Any other ones/ideas?
the single high wing blue job that sits beside the stits skybaby in
the eaa museum. (it has a smaller span)

all the above are "real" aircraft with national registrations.

>
>Note that I am not talking so much about ultralights (which generally just dont
>wiegh much)...I am talking smalllll one/.75 person airplanes that LOOK like
>"real" airplanes...of course your definition may differ :)
>
>take care
>
>Blll

[Greg Reid]

Check out http://corvaircruiser.com/ for a slick single-place
all-composite low-wing using a Corvair engine.

Greg

[pragmatist]

(BllFs6) wrote in message >...
> Hi all...
>
-----SNIP..........
>
> What are the REALLY small homebuilts out there?
>
-----SNIP.........
>
> Note that I am not talking so much about ultralights (which generally just dont
> wiegh much)...I am talking smalllll one/.75 person airplanes that LOOK like
> "real" airplanes...of course your definition may differ :)
>
> take care
>
> Blll

Didn't Ray Stitts built a cabin biplane with a six foot span
some years back just for kicks??
Pragmatist -
"Its the little things that hurt. - Ask my wife."

[Dan Thomas]

Stealth Pilot > wrote in message >...
> On 04 May 2004 15:00:09 GMT, (BllFs6) wrote:
>
> >Hi all...
> >
> >The discussion about aluminum vs composites and running across some stuff on
> >the hummel bird got me thinking...
> >
> >What are the REALLY small homebuilts out there?
> >
> <snip>
> >
> >Is there a smallllllll rag and tube homebuilt?
> cassutt racer
> stits skybaby (in the eaa museum)
> hegy's chuparosa
> >
> >A smallllll mostly wood homebuilt?
> Corby Starlet
> Jodel D9
> Druine Turbulent
> Bruger Collibri
> >
> >A smalllll canard of any type of construction? Quickie? Dragon Fly?
> yeah the quickie
> >
> >Any other ones/ideas?
> the single high wing blue job that sits beside the stits skybaby in
> the eaa museum. (it has a smaller span)
>
> all the above are "real" aircraft with national registrations.
>
> >
> >Note that I am not talking so much about ultralights (which generally just dont
> >wiegh much)...I am talking smalllll one/.75 person airplanes that LOOK like
> >"real" airplanes...of course your definition may differ :)
> >
> >take care
> >
> >Blll

I have here on my office wall a photo I took in the Tucson Air
Museum. The BumbleBee, built by Robert H. Starr, with an 85 HP (I
think) Continental. Wingspan 6'6", length 9'4", cruise 150 mph, max
180 mph, stall 75 kts (that's right, some speeds in mph and others in
knots). A tiny negative-stagger T-tailed biplane taildragger, which is
probably why it's in a museum instead of out scaring somebody. Plans
probably not available. It's short enough that it looks like it has
three wings, and the prop is nearly as long as the wings.
In the 50's a couple of guys built something called a Honeybee or
WeeBee or some similar name, an all-metal low-wing trike that was too
small to have a cockpit. The pilot laid on his belly atop the
fuselage. I don't know what sort of harness they used to keep him
there, nor what effect his body had on airflow over the tail. Most of
us aren't all that well streamlined.

Dan

[d b]

In article >, (BllFs6) wrote:
>Hi all...
>
>The discussion about aluminum vs composites and running across some stuff on
>the hummel bird got me thinking...
>
>What are the REALLY small homebuilts out there?
>
>The hummel bird and tennie two - aluminum construction....
>
>The Cri Cri - mostly aluminum?
>
>KR1 - composite.....small, but is it REALLY small like the previous 2?
>
>Is there a smallllllll rag and tube homebuilt?
>
>A smallllll mostly wood homebuilt?
>
>A smalllll canard of any type of construction? Quickie? Dragon Fly?
>
>Any other ones/ideas?
>
>Note that I am not talking so much about ultralights (which generally just dont
>wiegh much)...I am talking smalllll one/.75 person airplanes that LOOK like
>"real" airplanes...of course your definition may differ :)
>
>take care
>
>Blll

I flew the Mead Adventure. Composite, 40 sq ft, O-200. 200 cruise, give or
take. Last trip it made was 672 mile, non stop one way at 195 mph. Return
was 192 average. Total fuel burn was 35 gallons. Near 40 mpg at
190 mph, average both ways, not bad. Plans are not available.

[B2431]

>From: "Rich S."


>
>Here's one that qualifies for two of the three -
>http://www.harbornet.com/folks/shankland/onyx.jpg
>
>Power is a 12 hp Onan.
>
>Rich S.

Interesting design. Whatevet happened to it?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Rich S.]

"B2431" > wrote in message
...
>
> Interesting design. Whatevet happened to it?
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>

Plans are available for $90 U.S. (inc. postage) at
http://www.homebuilt.org/kits/littner/cp150.html. I don't know of anyone who
is - or has - built one in the U.S. I believe several have been built in
Europe including some with a composite fuselage.

Looks like it would be a good test bed for some of the new v-twin lawn
tractor motors or maybe a pair of those expensive turbojet model airplane
powerplants. :o)

Rich S.

[Richard Lamb]

"Rich S." wrote:
>
> "B2431" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Interesting design. Whatevet happened to it?
> >
> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
> >
>
> Plans are available for $90 U.S. (inc. postage) at
> http://www.homebuilt.org/kits/littner/cp150.html. I don't know of anyone who
> is - or has - built one in the U.S. I believe several have been built in
> Europe including some with a composite fuselage.
>
> Looks like it would be a good test bed for some of the new v-twin lawn
> tractor motors or maybe a pair of those expensive turbojet model airplane
> powerplants. :o)
>
> Rich S.

One of my neighbors is into RC big time.
He has two tiny turbine engines of about 50 pounds thrust each.
They turn something like 100 THOUSHAND RPM (with all the harmonics).
These are the absolute coolest toys ever.
Microprocessor controlled starter, even.

I would LOVE to hang those screamers on my parasol for a high speed
pass down the runway...

First Jet Parasol in history!


Richard Lamb
:)

[Bob Martin]

> One of my neighbors is into RC big time.
> He has two tiny turbine engines of about 50 pounds thrust each.
> They turn something like 100 THOUSHAND RPM (with all the harmonics).
> These are the absolute coolest toys ever.
> Microprocessor controlled starter, even.
>
> I would LOVE to hang those screamers on my parasol for a high speed
> pass down the runway...

I saw a video once of someone who mounted two of them to a platform on
the back of a bicycle.

[Edwin]

The Sky Pup ultralight.

Edwin
www.skypup.net

[Phil]

Hi all

You obviously haven't seen this CriCri with 2 turbojets:
http://www.amtjets.com/gallery_real_plain.html

Phil Maley
Perth
Australia