Flarm Prices?

[N2]

Dooes anyone know if Flarm prices in the US will be going down with
the US$going up vs the Euro?

Al

[Richard[_9_]]

On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:00:04 PM UTC-8, N2 wrote:
> Dooes anyone know if Flarm prices in the US will be going down with
> the US$going up vs the Euro?
>
> Al

Flarm is sold to the US Dealers in USD $ not EURO so I doubt it.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

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Prices going DOWN!!!
What planet do you live on.
Go to France to buy one.
Price will be lower based upon the exchange rate but you will then pay 20% VAT.
Yes, you can claim a refund on the VAT but in
five years of making claims, I have never received a check
from the French.
I raise a glass for the dream of lower prices.
Chateau Le Pape 2010.

[[email protected]]

That's easily fixed. Sell it in Euro.

Even if they don't do that, the wages of the people who Flarm sales
support (70% of costs?) are going down in USD so the prices should drop.

I guess Richard would be happy to pay last year's price for his gas too.

GC

On 12/01/2015 13:13, Richard wrote:
> On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:00:04 PM UTC-8, N2 wrote:
>> Dooes anyone know if Flarm prices in the US will be going down with
>> the US$going up vs the Euro?
>>
>> Al
>
> Flarm is sold to the US Dealers in USD $ not EURO so I doubt it.
>
> Richard
> www.craggyaero.com
>

[Richard[_9_]]

On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 6:38:22 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> That's easily fixed. Sell it in Euro.
>
> Even if they don't do that, the wages of the people who Flarm sales
> support (70% of costs?) are going down in USD so the prices should drop.
>
> I guess Richard would be happy to pay last year's price for his gas too.
>
> GC
>
> On 12/01/2015 13:13, Richard wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:00:04 PM UTC-8, N2 wrote:
> >> Dooes anyone know if Flarm prices in the US will be going down with
> >> the US$going up vs the Euro?
> >>
> >> Al
> >
> > Flarm is sold to the US Dealers in USD $ not EURO so I doubt it.
> >
> > Richard
> > www.craggyaero.com
> >

I did not say I was happy about the pricing in US $. I would rather pay in EUROS but Flarm does not do that. Their pricing to US dealers is set in US $.

Richard

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The good news is right now is the perfect time to get in on the Nephi group buy for PowerFlarms. Just let Craggy Aero know you want to join in on the fun and you'll save some $$. :)

Bruno - B4

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Richard, I live in a country where almost everything is imported. The
habits of importers and agents are no news to us. Saying Flarm price
their product in USD is simply a red herring. They can change their
prices and policies whenever they like. If the USD had moved in the
opposite direction you would already have the new price list... "Sorry
to announce... economic pressures..." etc.

When in a hole, Richard, stop digging. Admit their behaviour is
miserly, apologise, and move on.

GC

On 12/01/2015 14:07, Richard wrote:
> On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 6:38:22 PM UTC-8,
> wrote:
>> That's easily fixed. Sell it in Euro.
>>
>> Even if they don't do that, the wages of the people who Flarm
>> sales support (70% of costs?) are going down in USD so the prices
>> should drop.
>>
>> I guess Richard would be happy to pay last year's price for his gas
>> too.
>>
>> GC
>>
>> On 12/01/2015 13:13, Richard wrote:
>>> On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:00:04 PM UTC-8, N2 wrote:
>>>> Dooes anyone know if Flarm prices in the US will be going down
>>>> with the US$going up vs the Euro?
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>
>>> Flarm is sold to the US Dealers in USD $ not EURO so I doubt it.
>>>
>>> Richard www.craggyaero.com
>>>
>
> I did not say I was happy about the pricing in US $. I would rather
> pay in EUROS but Flarm does not do that. Their pricing to US dealers
> is set in US $.
>
> Richard
>

[Richard[_9_]]

On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 9:37:33 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> Richard, I live in a country where almost everything is imported. The
> habits of importers and agents are no news to us. Saying Flarm price
> their product in USD is simply a red herring. They can change their
> prices and policies whenever they like. If the USD had moved in the
> opposite direction you would already have the new price list... "Sorry
> to announce... economic pressures..." etc.
>
> When in a hole, Richard, stop digging. Admit their behaviour is
> miserly, apologise, and move on.
>
> GC
>
> On 12/01/2015 14:07, Richard wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 6:38:22 PM UTC-8,
> > wrote:
> >> That's easily fixed. Sell it in Euro.
> >>
> >> Even if they don't do that, the wages of the people who Flarm
> >> sales support (70% of costs?) are going down in USD so the prices
> >> should drop.
> >>
> >> I guess Richard would be happy to pay last year's price for his gas
> >> too.
> >>
> >> GC
> >>
> >> On 12/01/2015 13:13, Richard wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:00:04 PM UTC-8, N2 wrote:
> >>>> Dooes anyone know if Flarm prices in the US will be going down
> >>>> with the US$going up vs the Euro?
> >>>>
> >>>> Al
> >>>
> >>> Flarm is sold to the US Dealers in USD $ not EURO so I doubt it.
> >>>
> >>> Richard www.craggyaero.com
> >>>
> >
> > I did not say I was happy about the pricing in US $. I would rather
> > pay in EUROS but Flarm does not do that. Their pricing to US dealers
> > is set in US $.
> >
> > Richard
> >

I also live in a country where most of the excellent soaring products are imported.

So why are you not talking to Flarm? The company in control of the pricing.

Actually I am in a thermal and climbing.


Richard

[Dave Nadler]

On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 6:00:04 PM UTC-5, N2 wrote:
> Dooes anyone know if Flarm prices in the US will be going down with
> the US$going up vs the Euro?
>
> Al

Where is FLARM located?
What is the country's currency?
In what currency are the prices of parts and production paid?
Discuss amongst yourselves...

[jfitch]

On Monday, January 12, 2015 at 9:07:43 AM UTC-8, Dave Nadler wrote:
> On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 6:00:04 PM UTC-5, N2 wrote:
> > Dooes anyone know if Flarm prices in the US will be going down with
> > the US$going up vs the Euro?
> >
> > Al
>
> Where is FLARM located?
> What is the country's currency?
> In what currency are the prices of parts and production paid?
> Discuss amongst yourselves...

I thought the Flarm was built in Switzerland. If they are using Euros there, its news to me (and them). The Swiss Franc is down only about 10% against the dollar since it's peak in early 2014, and near its average for the last several years (during which, I think the price of Flarm has remained steady?).

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"When in a hole, Richard, stop digging. Admit their behaviour is
miserly, apologise, and move on."

Did he steal your lunch money in grade school example.net? Cos a long-held juvenile blood feud is the only reason I can think of for needlessly attacking a reseller for stating the pricing practices of a manufacturer that he has no control over. Especially when said practices weren't condoned, justified or otherwise. They were simply stated.

Play the ball, not the man: example.net

[jfitch]

On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:00:04 PM UTC-8, N2 wrote:
> Dooes anyone know if Flarm prices in the US will be going down with
> the US$going up vs the Euro?
>
> Al

Add to that, yesterday the SNB scrapped its cap on the Franc compared to the (falling) Euro, so the Franc just jumped 10% compared to the dollar.

[Dave Nadler]

On Friday, January 16, 2015 at 12:07:00 PM UTC-5, jfitch wrote:
> On Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:00:04 PM UTC-8, N2 wrote:
> > Dooes anyone know if Flarm prices in the US will be going down with
> > the US$going up vs the Euro?
> >
> > Al
>
> Add to that, yesterday the SNB scrapped its cap on the Franc
> compared to the (falling) Euro, so the Franc just jumped 10%
> compared to the dollar.

Yep, if you haven't already done so, better get a FLARM
before they have to raise the prices ;-)

[Dave Springford]

> > Add to that, yesterday the SNB scrapped its cap on the Franc
> > compared to the (falling) Euro, so the Franc just jumped 10%
> > compared to the dollar.
>
> Yep, if you haven't already done so, better get a FLARM
> before they have to raise the prices ;-)

Dave was correct, of course - just received this today.


Dear PowerFLARM Dealers,

As you probably know, on January 15, the Swiss Central Bank (SNB) let go of the EUR/CHF peg of 1.20. The exchange rate immediately fell to around 1.00.. Consequently, the revenue of companies based in switzerland decreased with the same percentage. FLARM Technology, the manufacturer of PowerFLARM products is also based in Switzerland, and therefore is affected as well.

To ensure the sustainability of PowerFLARM Products, new prices for PowerFLARM products are valid with immediate effect. All orders placed from now on will be with the new prices. Already submitted quotes and orders placed before today are of course not affected.

Normally (exchange rates usually move slowly), we give some weeks of notice.. In this extreme case, we however need to act immediately. Sorry for the inconvenience this causes.

Other collision avoidance products, like for example our TRX line of products, remain unaffected by this price change.

If you have questions regarding collision avoidance products, PowerFLARM and alternatives, please feel free to contact us!

Best regards,
Marc Förderer


The joint brand of Butterfly Avionics and Garrecht Avionik

[Dave Nadler]

On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:07:18 PM UTC-5, Dave Springford wrote:
> Dave was correct, of course...

Apologies, I'm told this is a very irritating habit...

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On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 5:49:27 PM UTC-5, Dave Nadler wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 at 2:07:18 PM UTC-5, Dave Springford wrote:
> > Dave was correct, of course...
>
> Apologies, I'm told this is a very irritating habit...

Fortunately you don't do it all that often.
Ouch! Too good to pass up
LOL
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