most facile way to move heavy toolcase up/down stairs?

[Alan Horowitz]

ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
tool junkie genetic coding.

Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
("stairs", to you land pukes)

Better approach?

[nauga]

Alan Horowitz wrote:

> Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> ("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
> Better approach?

A complete set on each deck? :-)

Dave 'never enough' Hyde

[Bruce Chang]

"Alan Horowitz" > wrote in message
om...
> ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
> them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
> tool junkie genetic coding.
>
> Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> ("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
> Better approach?
>

Use the escalator? =oD

Maybe separate your tools into two groups and get two Samsonites. I have a
ton of tools at home but when I go to work on a friend's car, I can leave
most all my tools at home and bring application specific tools that are
light enough to carry in a backpack. I can't even imagine how long it'd
take me to get all my tools from my rollaway into my car, much less just
trying to lift my top chest without removing any tools from it first. =o)

Good luck,

-Bruce

[Richard Lamb]

nauga wrote:
>
> Alan Horowitz wrote:
>
> > Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> > ("stairs", to you land pukes)
> >
> > Better approach?
>
> A complete set on each deck? :-)
>
> Dave 'never enough' Hyde
>


Nah, go find a snipe and get your own block and tackle rig.


Richard

[jakdedert]

"Alan Horowitz" > wrote in message
om...
> ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
> them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
> tool junkie genetic coding.
>
> Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> ("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
> Better approach?

Pukes? I guess you're applying that term 'affectionately' since we're the
ones you're asking for help. I can't add much to the answers already given,
unless there is something like a lift or elevator on board. Some of those
cases are modular, with a series of stacking boxes. Perhaps, like others
have suggested, you could divide your stash into several piles, and only
move the ones you actually expect to need at a time.

jak

[Dick C]

Alan Horowitz wrote in rec.autos.tech

> ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
> them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
> tool junkie genetic coding.

What do you need that many tools for anyway? Kind of like the golfer who
takes a bag full of golf clubs to play a par 3 course. Take only what
you need in a smaller case, and leave the rest in your workshop.
Seriously, I have worked in industrial plants where I had a over a hundred
pounds of tools in the shop, but usually carried a collection of tools that
would allow me to do 90 percent of all jobs I had to do. A lot of the jobs
I would just grab a pair of longnose pliers, a couple of screwdrivers, and
my meter.

--
Dick #1349
Damn it . . . Don't you dare ask God to help me.
To her housekeeper, who had begun to pray aloud.
~~ Joan Crawford, actress, d. May 10, 1977
Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email:

[Sparks]

Alan Horowitz > wrote in message
om...
> ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
> them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
> tool junkie genetic coding.
>
> Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> ("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
> Better approach?

If you need all those tools for a job you probably don't know what are you
doing anyway!

Best regards,
Radio Electronics Officer

[Harry K]

"nauga" > wrote in message et>...
> Alan Horowitz wrote:
>
> > Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> > ("stairs", to you land pukes)
> >
> > Better approach?
>
> A complete set on each deck? :-)
>
> Dave 'never enough' Hyde
>

Only go up when in the southern hemisphere and down in the northern? ;)

Harry K

[Stu & Kathy Fields]

Quickly move into management. Pencils and cell phone are light.

S. Fields
"Alan Horowitz" > wrote in message
om...
> ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
> them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
> tool junkie genetic coding.
>
> Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> ("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
> Better approach?

[Paul Anton]

Leave it unlocked--it will get lighter real quick

> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
> tool junkie genetic coding.
>
> Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> ("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
> Better approach?

[Andrew VK3BFA]

(Alan Horowitz) wrote in message >...
> ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
> them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
> tool junkie genetic coding.
>
> Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> ("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
> Better approach?

Do what everyone else with more intelligence than a housebrick does -
clean out your toolbox and only cart around what you need. If you
havent figured out that you only need a small box for 90% of jobs,
then you havent been doing this all that long.....
73 de VK3BFA Andrew

[Joe McElvenney]

Swiss Army Knife ?

[Alex Rodriguez]

In article >,
says...
>
>
>ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
>them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
>check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
>tool junkie genetic coding.
>
>Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
>("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
>Better approach?

Two cases and make two trips.
---------
Alex

[Ernest Christley]

Alex Rodriguez wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>
>>
>>ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
>>them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
>>check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
>>tool junkie genetic coding.
>>
>>Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
>>("stairs", to you land pukes)
>>
>>Better approach?
>
>
> Two cases and make two trips.
> ---------
> Alex
>


COME-ON, guys! He came to rec.AVIATION.HOMEBUILT asking this question.
What he wants to know is:

A) whether to use a laminar or turbulent airfoil, and what's the proper
wing loading for a toolbox?
B) would a certified or auto-conversion engine be more appropriate?
C) composite, aluminum, or tube and rag?
E) electric or manual trim?
F) circuit breakers or fuses?

Now. Could somebody help the guy out, please!

8*)

--
http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/
"Ignorance is mankinds normal state,
alleviated by information and experience."
Veeduber

[Alan Horowitz]

> havent figured out that you only need a small box for 90% of jobs,


You _can_ do 90% of what is to be done with what I carry on my
belt.


With my little toolbag, you can do 99%.


But just because one can skin and tan a deer with teeth alone, doesn't
mean one _enjoys_ doing it that way......

[Z]

In article >, Alan
Horowitz > writes
>ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
>them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
>check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
>tool junkie genetic coding.
>
>Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
>("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
>Better approach?

Get the bosun to carry your tools or help you carry your tools.
Webbing strop and ships winch.
Check out each job before starting and take less tools in a smaller
case.
Keep your own tools at home if the shipping company supplies tools and
use your own tools for homers when off tour.
See about your addiction. :-)


I managed a whole week once with a pinching driver!
I am a professed tool junkie as well but my van has no organisation aids
in it so there are tools and materials stuffed in the back of it so much
I can't find the tools I need.

--
Z
Remove all Zeds in e-mail address to reply.

[Andrew VK3BFA]

(Alan Horowitz) wrote in message >...
> > havent figured out that you only need a small box for 90% of jobs,
>
>
> You _can_ do 90% of what is to be done with what I carry on my
> belt.
>
>
> With my little toolbag, you can do 99%.
>
>
> But just because one can skin and tan a deer with teeth alone, doesn't
> mean one _enjoys_ doing it that way......

Point taken - and if you were going into the woods to catch a deer,
(or a bunny rabbit) you would at least have a skinning knife with you
and then take the skin back home to tan - the same with repairs, I
have a swiss army knife on my belt and I can do a huge number of
repairs with that. And if you are on a "boat" then you wont have to
drive 15 miles to get the right tool, would you. So, if you want to
lug a 20Kg toolbox up and down "stairs" then feel free to do so - dont
expect to do it any other way, because there isnt one.

Oh, and BTW - on a "boat" you are unlikely to find that a new piece of
equipment needing an unusual tool has miraculously(sp) appeared
overnight - wish I had it that easy!.....

Andrew

[jakdedert]

"Andrew VK3BFA" > wrote in message
...
> (Alan Horowitz) wrote in message
>...
> > > havent figured out that you only need a small box for 90% of jobs,
> >
> >
> > You _can_ do 90% of what is to be done with what I carry on my
> > belt.
> >
> >
> > With my little toolbag, you can do 99%.
> >
> >
> > But just because one can skin and tan a deer with teeth alone, doesn't
> > mean one _enjoys_ doing it that way......
>
> Point taken - and if you were going into the woods to catch a deer,
> (or a bunny rabbit) you would at least have a skinning knife with you
> and then take the skin back home to tan - the same with repairs, I
> have a swiss army knife on my belt and I can do a huge number of
> repairs with that. And if you are on a "boat" then you wont have to
> drive 15 miles to get the right tool, would you. So, if you want to
> lug a 20Kg toolbox up and down "stairs" then feel free to do so - dont
> expect to do it any other way, because there isnt one.
>
Perhaps the OP could spend more time at the gym? ;-)

I, too, find that my little Gerber Tool solves well over 90% of my
'occasional' tool needs. While there's hardly a tool on it that I would use
for a particular job if I had the 'real' tool at hand; the utility of having
all those tools on my belt--all of the time--is liberating.

jak

> Oh, and BTW - on a "boat" you are unlikely to find that a new piece of
> equipment needing an unusual tool has miraculously(sp) appeared
> overnight - wish I had it that easy!.....
>
> Andrew

[Rich S.]

"jakdedert" > wrote in message
.. .
>
>
> I, too, find that my little Gerber Tool solves well over 90% of my
> 'occasional' tool needs. While there's hardly a tool on it that I would
use
> for a particular job if I had the 'real' tool at hand; the utility of
having
> all those tools on my belt--all of the time--is liberating.

I wonder how many of those the TSA owns, now?

Rich "Honest, I forgot it was on my belt" S.

[Andrew VK3BFA]

Z > wrote in message >...
> In article >, Alan
> Horowitz > writes
> >ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
> >them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
> >check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
> >tool junkie genetic coding.
> >
> >Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> >("stairs", to you land pukes)
> >
> >Better approach?
>
> Get the bosun to carry your tools or help you carry your tools.
> Webbing strop and ships winch.
> Check out each job before starting and take less tools in a smaller
> case.
> Keep your own tools at home if the shipping company supplies tools and
> use your own tools for homers when off tour.
> See about your addiction. :-)
>
>
> I managed a whole week once with a pinching driver!
> I am a professed tool junkie as well but my van has no organisation aids
> in it so there are tools and materials stuffed in the back of it so much
> I can't find the tools I need.


Yep, I am a tool junkie as well - but I only carry the bare minimum in
the van, paranoid about them being stolen, and commercial insurance is
just toooo much. Lets face it, he who dies with the most tools/test
equipment wins......(not sure what you win, I just know that you do).

BTW - whats the most obscure specialised tool you own - you know,
something that was acquired in a moment of madness and never got used
- (this specifically exludes power tools, they are in a special
"sacred objects" category)...and where can I get a micro lathe cheap
for turning up capacitor shafts....

de VK3BFA Andrew

[Mike Gaspard]

"Rich S." > wrote in message >...
> "jakdedert" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >
> >
> > I, too, find that my little Gerber Tool solves well over 90% of my
> > 'occasional' tool needs. While there's hardly a tool on it that I would
> use
> > for a particular job if I had the 'real' tool at hand; the utility of
> having
> > all those tools on my belt--all of the time--is liberating.
>
> I wonder how many of those the TSA owns, now?
>
> Rich "Honest, I forgot it was on my belt" S.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I almost forgot mine on my belt at the airport once. Luckily I
remembered in time and was able to run back and stick it in my checked
baggage. I was almost sick at the thought of having to turn it over to
Security.

I would rather leave my wallet at home than my Gerber. It's saved my
bacon more times than I can remember. Best $40 I ever spent.

Mike

[sdlomi2]

"Alan Horowitz" > wrote in message
om...
> ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
> them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
> tool junkie genetic coding.
>
> Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> ("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
> Better approach?
Got room for a furniture-moving dolly(hand-truck?), the one with the
v-like belts that revolve on each step? s

[[email protected]]

On Tue, 11 May 2004 23:42:20 -0400, "sdlomi2"
> wrote:

>
>"Alan Horowitz" > wrote in message
om...
>> ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
>> them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
>> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
>> tool junkie genetic coding.
>>
>> Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
>> ("stairs", to you land pukes)
>>
>> Better approach?
> Got room for a furniture-moving dolly(hand-truck?), the one with the
>v-like belts that revolve on each step? s

There are hand trucks with electric motors on them that drive grips
that allow it to climb stairs. You just get the truck in position,
push the button and the electric motor (geared way down) takes the
load up or down the stairs.

Would that work for you?

Corky Scott

[rip]

Order a set of Type II antigravs. One pair should do it easily.
Federation StarFleet FSCM code 345273FW98DHRT53M598G0937DFG4456.

Alan Horowitz wrote:
> ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
> them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
> tool junkie genetic coding.
>
> Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
> ("stairs", to you land pukes)
>
> Better approach?

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:25:10 GMT, rip > wrote:


>Alan Horowitz wrote:
>> ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
>> them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
>> check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
>> tool junkie genetic coding.
>>
>> Better approach?
>
>Order a set of Type II antigravs. One pair should do it easily.
>Federation StarFleet FSCM code 345273FW98DHRT53M598G0937DFG4456.

No, the -456 is the "Lift Device, Anti-Gravity, Hemoglobin-Attractant"
model. You want the -457.

Ron "What is brain?" Wanttaja

[rip]

True, Ron, but I prefer the -456 because it keeps the blood from rushing
to my head. Try it, you'll like it!!!

Ron Wanttaja wrote:
> On Wed, 12 May 2004 12:25:10 GMT, rip > wrote:
>
>
>
>>Alan Horowitz wrote:
>>
>>>ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
>>>them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
>>>check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
>>>tool junkie genetic coding.
>>>
>>>Better approach?
>>
>>Order a set of Type II antigravs. One pair should do it easily.
>>Federation StarFleet FSCM code 345273FW98DHRT53M598G0937DFG4456.
>
>
> No, the -456 is the "Lift Device, Anti-Gravity, Hemoglobin-Attractant"
> model. You want the -457.
>
> Ron "What is brain?" Wanttaja

[Rich S.]

"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
...
> >Order a set of Type II antigravs. One pair should do it easily.
> >Federation StarFleet FSCM code 345273FW98DHRT53M598G0937DFG4456.
>
> No, the -456 is the "Lift Device, Anti-Gravity, Hemoglobin-Attractant"
> model. You want the -457.
>
> Ron "What is brain?" Wanttaja

If it was Ammeter, he'd get the -457 Magnum.

Rich "Peas through superior firepower" S.

[Z]

In article >, Andrew
VK3BFA > writes
>Z > wrote in message
>...
>> In article >, Alan
>> Horowitz > writes
>> >ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
>> >them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
>> >check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
>> >tool junkie genetic coding.
>> >
>> >Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
>> >("stairs", to you land pukes)
>> >
>> >Better approach?
>>
>> Get the bosun to carry your tools or help you carry your tools.
>> Webbing strop and ships winch.
>> Check out each job before starting and take less tools in a smaller
>> case.
>> Keep your own tools at home if the shipping company supplies tools and
>> use your own tools for homers when off tour.
>> See about your addiction. :-)
>>
>>
>> I managed a whole week once with a pinching driver!
>> I am a professed tool junkie as well but my van has no organisation aids
>> in it so there are tools and materials stuffed in the back of it so much
>> I can't find the tools I need.
>
>
>Yep, I am a tool junkie as well - but I only carry the bare minimum in
>the van, paranoid about them being stolen, and commercial insurance is
>just toooo much. Lets face it, he who dies with the most tools/test
>equipment wins......(not sure what you win, I just know that you do).
>
>BTW - whats the most obscure specialised tool you own - you know,
>something that was acquired in a moment of madness and never got used
>- (this specifically exludes power tools, they are in a special
>"sacred objects" category)...and where can I get a micro lathe cheap
>for turning up capacitor shafts....
>
>de VK3BFA Andrew

Got an Anatomy lab dissection kit yesterday for a snip GBP7 USD10. It
contains a decent scalpel, various scissors, tweezers pokers, prodders,
jabbers, impalers scrunchers and whatchamacallits. All in surgical
stainless steel. I'm thinking twice about donating my body to medical
science now though ;-)

Also they had a diagnostic kit at a song (otoscope/opthalmoscope) handy
for close inspection. I didn't have a look as my hands were manky and I
wouldn't want anything like that prodding about me after it had been in
my hands. I'll maybe go in with clean hands on Monday.



--
Z
Remove all Zeds in e-mail address to reply.

[matt wilson]

Don't most boats have at least one deck winch?

"Alan Horowitz" > wrote in message
om...
ET onboard a ship. Have decided after time to have own tools. Got
them packed into one of those larger wheel-around, pull-the-handle-out
check-in hard-shell Samsonites. Ends up being a bit heavy, cause of
tool junkie genetic coding.

Works great..... except when have to go up or down ladderwells
("stairs", to you land pukes)

Better approach?