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Ben[_6_]
February 17th 15, 04:26 PM
IMHO - this is a must have for all sailplane pilots...especially for contest and ridge pilots usually far away from home. Cheap and especially helpful to EMS in critical situations. Interactive model is my choice. Just browse Road ID and become a safer pilot.

February 17th 15, 05:52 PM
Uhhhh.
Aren't we carrying a pilot license on our person?

Ben[_6_]
February 17th 15, 06:56 PM
On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 12:52:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> Uhhhh.
> Aren't we carrying a pilot license on our person?

Many pilots are in the habit of removing their wallet and storing them in a side pocket.If EMS does not find it you are John Doe.The beauty of the interactive model is it allows all personal specifics (including medical history) to be determined immediately if you are unconscious. Whats wrong with being a safer pilot?

son_of_flubber
February 17th 15, 07:03 PM
On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 12:52:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> Aren't we carrying a pilot license on our person?

And photo ID.

I learned recently that if you are not carrying state issued photo ID on your person, that you have a much better of being arrested and detained for a misdemeanor like trespassing or jaywalking. If you are taken to the station, they are more likely to hold you until you are properly identified.

If you can produce state issued ID, then you're more likely to get a written summons and sent on your way.

And if you're randomly stopped for no particular reason and asked to produce ID, you're much better off if you have that little card with you.

So I think that this Road ID (not state issued identification wrist band) is inadequate.

Ben[_6_]
February 18th 15, 01:45 PM
On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, son_of_flubber wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 12:52:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > Aren't we carrying a pilot license on our person?
>
> And photo ID.
>
> I learned recently that if you are not carrying state issued photo ID on your person, that you have a much better of being arrested and detained for a misdemeanor like trespassing or jaywalking. If you are taken to the station, they are more likely to hold you until you are properly identified.
>
> If you can produce state issued ID, then you're more likely to get a written summons and sent on your way.
>
> And if you're randomly stopped for no particular reason and asked to produce ID, you're much better off if you have that little card with you.
>
> So I think that this Road ID (not state issued identification wrist band) is inadequate.

Respectfully, you are overlooking the value of Road ID allowing any EMS personnel to immediately identify you and your medical specifics if you are not able to communicate. The prime objective is to stay alive; if you are lucky enough to survive a catastrophic crash who cares about a misdemeanor fine for improper identify?

Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
February 18th 15, 02:49 PM
On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 11:26:52 AM UTC-5, Ben wrote:
> IMHO - this is a must have for all sailplane pilots...especially for contest and ridge pilots usually far away from home. Cheap and especially helpful to EMS in critical situations. Interactive model is my choice. Just browse Road ID and become a safer pilot.

I guess you mean this....

http://www.roadid.com/default.aspx ?

I keep "ICE" info on my cellphone, even though it's locked, people can dial any of my "ICE" contacts and it also has some medical history for me as well.

PS, "ICE" = "In Case of Emergency". I know Verizon has it, I would guess other carriers have it as well.

Sean Fidler
February 18th 15, 03:49 PM
I wear one. Used to cycle a lot for triathlons (original need) but saw the value in the glider. As with all such things it is hard to see the importance before the "accident" but for $30 it could be highly valuable in any number of potential life (death) situations, not just gliding.

Bob Pasker
February 18th 15, 04:32 PM
eh, just wear your emergency info + medical info on a (breakaway) lanyard around your neck. make sure it has your blood type and allergies.

kirk.stant
February 18th 15, 05:39 PM
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 10:32:49 AM UTC-6, Bob Pasker wrote:
> eh, just wear your emergency info + medical info on a (breakaway) lanyard around your neck. make sure it has your blood type and allergies.

Military-style dog tags. $7 for a pair, engraved.

Talk about re-inventing the wheel!

66

Dan Marotta
February 18th 15, 11:01 PM
Seems that, if you want such information available to EMS you should
wear the ID bracelet, dog tags, etc., or carry the information in your
wallet which you should have on your person anyway.

I've found that a wallet is uncomfortable in my hip pocket so, when
flying my glider, I put the wallet in one of the cargo pockets of my
flying pants. Problem solved.


On 2/18/2015 10:39 AM, kirk.stant wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 10:32:49 AM UTC-6, Bob Pasker wrote:
>> eh, just wear your emergency info + medical info on a (breakaway) lanyard around your neck. make sure it has your blood type and allergies.
> Military-style dog tags. $7 for a pair, engraved.
>
> Talk about re-inventing the wheel!
>
> 66

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Dan Marotta

son_of_flubber
February 19th 15, 12:20 AM
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 8:46:00 AM UTC-5, Ben wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, son_of_flubber wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 12:52:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > > Aren't we carrying a pilot license on our person?
> >
> > And photo ID.
> >
> > I learned recently that if you are not carrying state issued photo ID on your person, that you have a much better of being arrested and detained for a misdemeanor like trespassing or jaywalking. If you are taken to the station, they are more likely to hold you until you are properly identified.
> >
> > If you can produce state issued ID, then you're more likely to get a written summons and sent on your way.
> >
> > And if you're randomly stopped for no particular reason and asked to produce ID, you're much better off if you have that little card with you.
> >
> > So I think that this Road ID (not state issued identification wrist band) is inadequate.
>
> Respectfully, you are overlooking the value of Road ID allowing any EMS personnel to immediately identify you and your medical specifics if you are not able to communicate. The prime objective is to stay alive; if you are lucky enough to survive a catastrophic crash who cares about a misdemeanor fine for improper identify?

I think that the product that you're promoting is a fine option if it is used in conjunction with a state issued photo ID. I would not rely on it without a photo ID, if I were, say, mountain biking in the woods.

>who cares about a misdemeanor fine for improper identify?

It is not a crime to be without official ID in the USA, but it is a reasonable cause for the police to detain you until you can be ID'd.

Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
February 19th 15, 03:22 AM
On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 7:20:08 PM UTC-5, son_of_flubber wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 8:46:00 AM UTC-5, Ben wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, son_of_flubber wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 12:52:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > > > Aren't we carrying a pilot license on our person?
> > >
> > > And photo ID.
> > >
> > > I learned recently that if you are not carrying state issued photo ID on your person, that you have a much better of being arrested and detained for a misdemeanor like trespassing or jaywalking. If you are taken to the station, they are more likely to hold you until you are properly identified..
> > >
> > > If you can produce state issued ID, then you're more likely to get a written summons and sent on your way.
> > >
> > > And if you're randomly stopped for no particular reason and asked to produce ID, you're much better off if you have that little card with you.
> > >
> > > So I think that this Road ID (not state issued identification wrist band) is inadequate.
> >
> > Respectfully, you are overlooking the value of Road ID allowing any EMS personnel to immediately identify you and your medical specifics if you are not able to communicate. The prime objective is to stay alive; if you are lucky enough to survive a catastrophic crash who cares about a misdemeanor fine for improper identify?
>
> I think that the product that you're promoting is a fine option if it is used in conjunction with a state issued photo ID. I would not rely on it without a photo ID, if I were, say, mountain biking in the woods.
>
> >who cares about a misdemeanor fine for improper identify?
>
> It is not a crime to be without official ID in the USA, but it is a reasonable cause for the police to detain you until you can be ID'd.

Ummmm..... I do believe this discussion is in case you have an accident and are incapable of passing info on to EMT's/1st responders...... NOT police/"officials" in the case of a "traffic stop".
Emergency contact info, blood type, allergies are most important at this point.

If you're awake & coherent, then you should have access to photo ID to deal with police/"officials".... Pretty much regardless of what country you're in...... Let's keep this thread on track..... Ummm OK?!

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