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Mitchell Holman[_8_]
April 26th 15, 12:59 PM

PVK[_3_]
April 28th 15, 11:56 AM
Mitch, thanks for these sets. I know of Old Rhinebeck, but these
pictures really give a sense of the place and its atmosphere. I suppose
the British equivalent is Old Warden, and no doubt there is a lot of
communication between the two. Lovely stuff.

Regards
Paul
Cambridge UK

Mitchell Holman[_8_]
April 28th 15, 01:11 PM
PVK > wrote in news:bYadnX_NGdP2-
:

> Mitch, thanks for these sets. I know of Old Rhinebeck, but these
> pictures really give a sense of the place and its atmosphere. I suppose
> the British equivalent is Old Warden, and no doubt there is a lot of
> communication between the two. Lovely stuff.
>


It is odd that flying started in the US but for the
first two decades the Europeans made all the advances
in it. The US did not field a single combat plane in
WWI and had to rely on French loaners. Most of the
replicas at Rhinebeck are copies of European machines.

PVK[_3_]
April 29th 15, 12:36 AM
On 28/04/2015 13:11, Mitchell Holman wrote:

> It is odd that flying started in the US but for the
> first two decades the Europeans made all the advances
> in it. The US did not field a single combat plane in
> WWI and had to rely on French loaners. Most of the
> replicas at Rhinebeck are copies of European machines.

Mitch, yes quite odd; it was the French who gave us the words aileron
and fuselage, in their aeronautical contexts. Then came the first
aeroplane war, which was this side of the pond, and as ever, war is a
catalyst to technological development.

It most definitely swung back the other way in the 1930s though,
particularly in civil aviation.

Regards
Paul

Byker
April 29th 15, 02:19 AM
"PVK" wrote in message
...
>
> it was the French who gave us the words aileron and fuselage, in their
> aeronautical contexts.

As well as "empennage" (tail assembly).

PVK[_3_]
April 29th 15, 05:54 PM
On 29/04/2015 02:19, Byker wrote:
> "PVK" wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> it was the French who gave us the words aileron and fuselage, in their
>> aeronautical contexts.
>
> As well as "empennage" (tail assembly).

Indeed. And 'canard' too, where the elevators are in front of the main
wings. French word, but were the French first to use it ?

RiŠardo[_2_]
April 30th 15, 03:08 PM
On 28/04/2015 13:11, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> PVK > wrote in news:bYadnX_NGdP2-
> :
>
>> Mitch, thanks for these sets. I know of Old Rhinebeck, but these
>> pictures really give a sense of the place and its atmosphere. I suppose
>> the British equivalent is Old Warden, and no doubt there is a lot of
>> communication between the two. Lovely stuff.
>>
>
>
> It is odd that flying started in the US but for the
> first two decades the Europeans made all the advances
> in it. The US did not field a single combat plane in
> WWI and had to rely on French loaners. Most of the
> replicas at Rhinebeck are copies of European machines.
>
>
>

"It is odd that flying started in the US..."

Indeed it is, however, as here is an an article upon someone else with a
claim, and who was also known as "the Father Of Manned Flight", or the
"Father of Aeronautics", and to whom the Wright brothers owed a lot due
to his experiments some fifty years previously:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3042182.stm

Incidentally, he also invented caterpillar tracks, self-righting
lifeboats, tension-spoke wheels - as used on bicycles, automatic signals
for railway crossings, seat belts, small scale helicopters, and a kind
of prototypical internal combustion engine fuelled by gunpowder.

http://www.wright-brothers.org/History_Wing/History_of_the_Airplane/Century_Before/First_Airplanes/First_Airplanes.htm

RiŠardo

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