USCG4 1821 HRP-1 ex USN 111821.jpg

[Joseph Testagrose]

[Byker]

"Joseph Testagrose" > wrote in message
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Eventually they got around to covering it with fabric

[clairbear]

"Byker" > wrote in news:qLGdnY3ycMKI-trInZ2dnUU7-
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> "Joseph Testagrose" > wrote in message
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> Eventually they got around to covering it with fabric
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What an ugly helocopter

[Ri©ardo]

On 8/23/2015 4:00 PM, clairbear wrote:
> "Byker" > wrote in news:qLGdnY3ycMKI-trInZ2dnUU7-
> :
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>> "Joseph Testagrose" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Eventually they got around to covering it with fabric
>> Attachment decoded: untitled-2.txt
>> ------=_NextPart_000_012B_01D0863C.9B9B9990
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>> Attachment saved: f:\xnewsdl\piasecki_hrp_1.jpg
>> ------=_NextPart_000_012B_01D0863C.9B9B9990
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>> ------=_NextPart_000_012B_01D0863C.9B9B9990
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>
> What an ugly helocopter
>

Well. it's one way of being remembered!

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Moving Things In Still Pictures

[Byker]

"clairbear" wrote in message
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> What an ugly helocopter

They don't so much fly as the earth simply rejects them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0QZ-NdAb1U

[Savageduck[_3_]]

On 2015-08-23 18:57:33 +0000, Ri ardo > said:

> On 8/23/2015 4:00 PM, clairbear wrote:
>> "Byker" > wrote in news:qLGdnY3ycMKI-trInZ2dnUU7-
>> :
>>> "Joseph Testagrose" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Eventually they got around to covering it with fabric
>>
>> What an ugly helocopter
>
> Well. it's one way of being remembered!

The other way it is remembered is how it was involved in the January
1963 Battle of Ap Bac in Vietnam. Ten of the CH-21s were flown in
support of ARVN troops and Republic of Vietnam Civil Guard, by US Army
pilots commanded by US advisors, and because of a bad ARVN command
structure and intelligence we got the first indication of the quagmire
'Nam would become.

Five of the newly deployed UH-1, "Hueys" were armed and flew as escorts
for the 10 transport CH-21s.

A communications SNAFU ensued and the choppers flew directly into fire
from Viet Cong positions and all took fire
One of the CH-21s was so badly damaged it was unable to leave the LZ.
So a second CH-21 attempted to rescue the survivors. It was also
brought down. A Huey was sent in to rescue those crews and it was hit
in the rotor and crashed. A third CH-21 was brought down in the fight
and landed nearby.
The ARVN commander refused to take orders from the US advisors and
provide support, to mount any rescue for the air crews and surviving
ARVN troops.

A fourth CH-21 attempted a rescue and it took ground fire and was
forced to land in a rice paddy. The Viet Cong had brought down five
helicopters in a few hours, 4 CH-21s and the first UH-1 downed in
Vietnam.





It eventually took a column of M-113 APCs to effect a rescue. The Viet
Cong had their first major victory and then just faded away without
sustaining any measurable damage or loss.

....and we weren't even officially there yet.

If you want to learn more, consider reading, "A Bright Shining Lie:
John Paul Vann and America in Vietnam" by Neil Sheehan.



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Regards,

Savageduck

[Ri©ardo]

On 8/23/2015 9:20 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> On 2015-08-23 18:57:33 +0000, Ri ardo > said:
>
>> On 8/23/2015 4:00 PM, clairbear wrote:
>>> "Byker" > wrote in news:qLGdnY3ycMKI-trInZ2dnUU7-
>>> :
>>>> "Joseph Testagrose" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Eventually they got around to covering it with fabric
>>>
>>> What an ugly helocopter
>>
>> Well. it's one way of being remembered!
>
> The other way it is remembered is how it was involved in the January
> 1963 Battle of Ap Bac in Vietnam. Ten of the CH-21s were flown in
> support of ARVN troops and Republic of Vietnam Civil Guard, by US Army
> pilots commanded by US advisors, and because of a bad ARVN command
> structure and intelligence we got the first indication of the quagmire
> 'Nam would become.
>
> Five of the newly deployed UH-1, "Hueys" were armed and flew as escorts
> for the 10 transport CH-21s.
>
> A communications SNAFU ensued and the choppers flew directly into fire
> from Viet Cong positions and all took fire
> One of the CH-21s was so badly damaged it was unable to leave the LZ. So
> a second CH-21 attempted to rescue the survivors. It was also brought
> down. A Huey was sent in to rescue those crews and it was hit in the
> rotor and crashed. A third CH-21 was brought down in the fight and
> landed nearby.
> The ARVN commander refused to take orders from the US advisors and
> provide support, to mount any rescue for the air crews and surviving
> ARVN troops.
>
> A fourth CH-21 attempted a rescue and it took ground fire and was forced
> to land in a rice paddy. The Viet Cong had brought down five helicopters
> in a few hours, 4 CH-21s and the first UH-1 downed in Vietnam.
>
>
>
> It eventually took a column of M-113 APCs to effect a rescue. The Viet
> Cong had their first major victory and then just faded away without
> sustaining any measurable damage or loss.
>
> ...and we weren't even officially there yet.
>
> If you want to learn more, consider reading, "A Bright Shining Lie: John
> Paul Vann and America in Vietnam" by Neil Sheehan.
>
>
>

Thank you for that information.

Ri©ardo

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Moving Things In Still Pictures