Ugh. Flight trace didn't download off FLARM brick

[Kurt Thams]

After a sweet flight, I get home to discover that the flight trace did not copy onto the USB stick.

Do I need to bring a computer with me to the airport to check each time before I leave the glider that the trace made it?

[Kevin Neave[_2_]]

If it works the same as the original Swiss Flarm or the LX Red Box then the
traces download at startup.

So at the end of the day you need to shut the Flarm down, start it up (to
download your trace) then shut it down again

And if you've got a blank memory stick it will download all the traces,
which may take a while!

KN

At 16:03 09 June 2015, Kurt Thams wrote:
>After a sweet flight, I get home to discover that the flight trace did
not
>copy onto the USB stick.
>
>Do I need to bring a computer with me to the airport to check each time
>before I leave the glider that the trace made it?
>

[Tim Newport-Peace[_2_]]

Try again, making sure that it has been switched off for 5++ minutes before
restarting of it may not detect end of flight, and so not download as
flight is still in progress.

Tim.
--
At 16:27 09 June 2015, Kevin Neave wrote:
>If it works the same as the original Swiss Flarm or the LX Red Box then
th
>traces download at startup.
>
>So at the end of the day you need to shut the Flarm down, start it up (t
>download your trace) then shut it down again
>
>And if you've got a blank memory stick it will download all the traces
>which may take a while!
>
>KN
>
>At 16:03 09 June 2015, Kurt Thams wrote:
>>After a sweet flight, I get home to discover that the flight trace di
>not
>>copy onto the USB stick.
>>
>>Do I need to bring a computer with me to the airport to check each time
>>before I leave the glider that the trace made it?
>>
>
>

[Kurt Thams]

Hmmm... pretty sure it had been powered off for at least 5 minutes.

I put the stick in, powered up, waited about 5 minutes, powered down, and removed the stick. There has been a total of about 10 flights on this device, so not lots to download.

When I got home and looked at the memory stick, I found my previous flights, but not the one from yesterday.


On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 10:00:06 AM UTC-7, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:
> Try again, making sure that it has been switched off for 5++ minutes before
> restarting of it may not detect end of flight, and so not download as
> flight is still in progress.
>
> Tim.
> --
> At 16:27 09 June 2015, Kevin Neave wrote:
> >If it works the same as the original Swiss Flarm or the LX Red Box then
> th
> >traces download at startup.
> >
> >So at the end of the day you need to shut the Flarm down, start it up (t
> >download your trace) then shut it down again
> >
> >And if you've got a blank memory stick it will download all the traces
> >which may take a while!
> >
> >KN
> >
> >At 16:03 09 June 2015, Kurt Thams wrote:
> >>After a sweet flight, I get home to discover that the flight trace di
> >not
> >>copy onto the USB stick.
> >>
> >>Do I need to bring a computer with me to the airport to check each time
> >>before I leave the glider that the trace made it?
> >>
> >
> >



On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 10:00:06 AM UTC-7, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:
> Try again, making sure that it has been switched off for 5++ minutes before
> restarting of it may not detect end of flight, and so not download as
> flight is still in progress.
>
> Tim.
> --
> At 16:27 09 June 2015, Kevin Neave wrote:
> >If it works the same as the original Swiss Flarm or the LX Red Box then
> th
> >traces download at startup.
> >
> >So at the end of the day you need to shut the Flarm down, start it up (t
> >download your trace) then shut it down again
> >
> >And if you've got a blank memory stick it will download all the traces
> >which may take a while!
> >
> >KN
> >
> >At 16:03 09 June 2015, Kurt Thams wrote:
> >>After a sweet flight, I get home to discover that the flight trace di
> >not
> >>copy onto the USB stick.
> >>
> >>Do I need to bring a computer with me to the airport to check each time
> >>before I leave the glider that the trace made it?
> >>
> >
> >

[Dave Nadler]

On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 12:03:23 PM UTC-4, Kurt Thams wrote:
> After a sweet flight, I get home to discover that the flight trace
> did not copy onto the USB stick.
>
> Do I need to bring a computer with me to the airport to check
> each time before I leave the glider that the trace made it?

1) Most common cause of problems writing to USB stick is partially
corrupted stick, usually caused by pulling stick out of PC without
"ejecting", or pulling stick out of a device while stick is being
written to. Winbloze is more tolerant of partial corruption than
any embedded device (loggers etc). Reformat your stick and try again.

2) Any capable FLARM display device, SN10 for example one of dozens,
will give you progress reports writing to the stick. This will give
you confirmation that the file is copied prior leaving the glider.

No, you do not need a PC at the aerodrome...

Hope that helps,
Best Regards, Dave

[Kurt Thams]

Thanks. I'm using a V7; I didn't notice if it shows that file transfer going on. I'll watch next time.

On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 5:54:23 PM UTC-7, Dave Nadler wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 12:03:23 PM UTC-4, Kurt Thams wrote:
> > After a sweet flight, I get home to discover that the flight trace
> > did not copy onto the USB stick.
> >
> > Do I need to bring a computer with me to the airport to check
> > each time before I leave the glider that the trace made it?
>
> 1) Most common cause of problems writing to USB stick is partially
> corrupted stick, usually caused by pulling stick out of PC without
> "ejecting", or pulling stick out of a device while stick is being
> written to. Winbloze is more tolerant of partial corruption than
> any embedded device (loggers etc). Reformat your stick and try again.
>
> 2) Any capable FLARM display device, SN10 for example one of dozens,
> will give you progress reports writing to the stick. This will give
> you confirmation that the file is copied prior leaving the glider.
>
> No, you do not need a PC at the aerodrome...
>
> Hope that helps,
> Best Regards, Dave

[Kurt Thams]

And side note: I really wish the Oudie would just download the trace like it claims it is going to do every time I land.

On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 6:43:25 PM UTC-7, Kurt Thams wrote:
> Thanks. I'm using a V7; I didn't notice if it shows that file transfer going on. I'll watch next time.
>
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 5:54:23 PM UTC-7, Dave Nadler wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 12:03:23 PM UTC-4, Kurt Thams wrote:
> > > After a sweet flight, I get home to discover that the flight trace
> > > did not copy onto the USB stick.
> > >
> > > Do I need to bring a computer with me to the airport to check
> > > each time before I leave the glider that the trace made it?
> >
> > 1) Most common cause of problems writing to USB stick is partially
> > corrupted stick, usually caused by pulling stick out of PC without
> > "ejecting", or pulling stick out of a device while stick is being
> > written to. Winbloze is more tolerant of partial corruption than
> > any embedded device (loggers etc). Reformat your stick and try again.
> >
> > 2) Any capable FLARM display device, SN10 for example one of dozens,
> > will give you progress reports writing to the stick. This will give
> > you confirmation that the file is copied prior leaving the glider.
> >
> > No, you do not need a PC at the aerodrome...
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> > Best Regards, Dave

[howard banks]

I had the same problem and followed Dave Nadler's kindly provided advice. Worked like a charm and Flarm downloads now back to normal ...
Thanks Dave.




On Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 10:03:23 AM UTC-6, Kurt Thams wrote:
> After a sweet flight, I get home to discover that the flight trace did not copy onto the USB stick.
>
> Do I need to bring a computer with me to the airport to check each time before I leave the glider that the trace made it?

[SoaringXCellence]

Kurt,

I also have an S(V)7 and it doesn't show anything about the transfer process on the Flarm USB port. There is a multi-color LED on the core device that remains red or blinks until the data output is complete, it then turn green and begins normal operation.

In my case the FlarmCore is behind the panel and I can't see the LED, so I just wait until the Flarm symbol appears on the S7 screen, then I know the Flarm is in full operation and the data transfer is complete.

Mike

[Dave Nadler]

On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 12:15:03 AM UTC-4, SoaringXCellence wrote:
> ... I just wait until the Flarm symbol appears on the S7 screen,
> then I know the Flarm is in full operation and the data transfer is complete.

If your stick is corrupted, you'll see the same thing...
Contact LX and get them to provide the status messages;
IIRC its in the "mandatory" list of FLARM features
3rd party displays are expected to support...

Hope that helps,
Best Regards, Dave