Motorglider hours same as glider?

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I understand you can use glider hours towards a private pilot license, but can you use motor glider hours toward a glider pilot license?

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On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 5:23:02 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> I understand you can use glider hours towards a private pilot license, but can you use motor glider hours toward a glider pilot license?

A glider certificate has 3 endorsements for launch.
Aero tow
Ground launch(winch or auto)
Self launch
Flying a self launch sailplane is a way to get a glider certificate. Then additional training is required to get endorsed for the other launch types.
UH

[son_of_flubber]

On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 5:23:02 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> I understand you can use glider hours towards a private pilot license, but can you use motor glider hours toward a glider pilot license?

From http://www.ssa.org/GliderPilotRatings

"Holders of a valid FAA Power plane license with 40 hours as pilot-in-command need a minimum of 10 solo flights to qualify to take the glider flight test. No written exam is required to add a glider rating to a power license. In all cases, refer to the Federal Aviation Regulations for details on pilot licensing."

Your CFI-Glider decides how many glider flights you need before you receive the endorsement to fly solo in the glider. The amount of pre-solo training that you require depends on your present skill and aptitude. In that sense, your experience in a motor glider may help you to solo sooner (or later).

[Brian[_1_]]

On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 3:23:02 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> I understand you can use glider hours towards a private pilot license, but can you use motor glider hours toward a glider pilot license?

A glider is a glider...
If the FAR says required time in a glider it counts.
If the FAR says required time in an aircraft it counts.
If the FAR says required time in an airplane, it doesn't count.

Brian

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On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 6:54:21 PM UTC-4, Brian wrote:
> On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 3:23:02 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> > I understand you can use glider hours towards a private pilot license, but can you use motor glider hours toward a glider pilot license?
>
> A glider is a glider...
> If the FAR says required time in a glider it counts.
> If the FAR says required time in an aircraft it counts.
> If the FAR says required time in an airplane, it doesn't count.
>
> Brian

Also, a private license is a private license. It's issued
for particular classes and categories. So, you can have a
private pilot license authorized for glider, airplane single engine land,
airplane multiengine land, or whatever. You'll have one
piece of plastic in your pocket saying "PRIVATE PILOT"
which on the back will specify what you can use it in.

Matt

[waremark]

On Monday, 28 September 2015 22:23:02 UTC+1, wrote:
> I understand you can use glider hours towards a private pilot license, but can you use motor glider hours toward a glider pilot license?

As an aside which is probably not relevant to most of you, in the UK I fly both TMG (fixed prop) and SLMG (folding prop) using the privileges of an aeroplane PPL. Time in the SLMG is disregarded in considering currency rules for revalidating my PPL, but time in a TMG does count.

Under new rules (EASA) I will have the option of flying motor gliders using a Sailplane Pilots License - for an SLMG it will just be treated as a different launch type.

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Is there any trick to locating a motorglider/instructor other than a Google search? (Austin, TX area)

[Steve Leonard[_2_]]

On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 3:02:19 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> Is there any trick to locating a motorglider/instructor other than a Google search? (Austin, TX area)

Man, are you in luck!

http://www.learn2soar.net/

Just up the street from you!

[Steve Leonard[_2_]]

Oh, and I found it using the SSA Where to Fly page.

http://www.ssa.org/WhereToFly

Used the Google Maps version, winged my way over to Texas, and there I was.

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I did find that one, apparently he doesn't operate out of Llano anymore. I've found an old listing for Georgetown as well. It appears the next closest is near Dallas which strikes me as odd. Not as many as I thought might be around.

[Frank Whiteley]

On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 3:45:18 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 5:23:02 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > I understand you can use glider hours towards a private pilot license, but can you use motor glider hours toward a glider pilot license?
>
> A glider certificate has 3 endorsements for launch.
> Aero tow
> Ground launch(winch or auto)
> Self launch
> Flying a self launch sailplane is a way to get a glider certificate. Then additional training is required to get endorsed for the other launch types.
> UH

Unless things have changed, I don't think a student can solo in self-launch under the SSA Group Plan. There may be other options.

Frank Whiteley

[Dan Marotta]

"I don't think a student can solo in self-launch under the SSA Group Plan."

That has been my experience. I bought a Pipistrel Sinus with the
intention of teaching my wife to fly in it. Costello said, "NO, only
/_licensed_/ and /_named_/ pilots" can fly a motor glider on their policy.

....So she's learning in a G-0102...


On 9/29/2015 10:16 PM, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 3:45:18 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>> On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 5:23:02 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>> I understand you can use glider hours towards a private pilot license, but can you use motor glider hours toward a glider pilot license?
>> A glider certificate has 3 endorsements for launch.
>> Aero tow
>> Ground launch(winch or auto)
>> Self launch
>> Flying a self launch sailplane is a way to get a glider certificate. Then additional training is required to get endorsed for the other launch types.
>> UH
> Unless things have changed, I don't think a student can solo in self-launch under the SSA Group Plan. There may be other options.
>
> Frank Whiteley

--
Dan, 5J

[Soartech]

Consider yourself lucky that there is one in your state.
They are rare in the northeast.

[XXL]

On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 3:02:19 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> Is there any trick to locating a motorglider/instructor other than a Google search? (Austin, TX area)

I seem to be one of the few motorglider instructors. Bring your ship to me, and I'll give you all the training you need or we can work out something and I'll come to you over a long weekend?

Cheers,
Roderick