Help info needed on oudie n ewmicrorecorder

[dan nezgoda]

I am an old geezer returning to soaring after years of hiatus. I go back to sectional maps, hand held final glide calcs n cameras mounted to the canopy. I purchased a glider with an oudie and a ew microrecorder with a handfull of cables.
a few questions:
I can work the oudie ok, its great and I understand the microrecorder records flight data, but

-does the ew recorder record the flight data it captures itself? I see the remote gps is plumbed to the recorder.

-does the recorder record the data it gets from the ouies gps?

-do I need to have an interconnect between the oudie and the recorder? or can I just let the ew recorder capture its internal data to give me a record of the flight. I see some comments saying improper plumbing of oudie to ew recorder will cook the ew recorder.
Any help will surely be appreciated.

Dan

[Kevin Neave[_2_]]

The EW has it's own intenal GPS and records position & altitude data. It
does not record any position data from the Oudie. The trace gets recorded
in a secure IGC format & can be used for badge claims, comps, world records
etc.

The Oudie also has it's own internal GPS & is fairly happy to work without
connection to the EW. The non-IGC Oudie logger trace can't be used for
badge claims, world records, depends on the scorer for comps.

So the pair will work fairly happily without any form of connection.

However some of the early Oudies has issues with "smoothing" of the GPS
position data (The hardware was originally intended as an automotive
SatNav) so the Oudie will work "better" if it gets GPS data from the EW.
And at least then what you see on the Oudie will be what get recorded in
the EW so no shance of thinking that you've reached a TP only to find that
your claim gets rejected.The other advantage of connecting the two is that
you should be able to declare your task from the Oudie to the EW.

HTH

KN

At 00:25 12 November 2015, dan nezgoda wrote:
>
>I am an old geezer returning to soaring after years of hiatus. I go bac
>to sectional maps, hand held final glide calcs n cameras mounted to th
>canopy. I purchased a glider with an oudie and a ew microrecorder with
>handfull of cables.
>a few questions:
>I can work the oudie ok, its great and I understand the microrecorde
>records flight data, but
>
>-does the ew recorder record the flight data it captures itself? I se
>the remote gps is plumbed to the recorder.
>
>-does the recorder record the data it gets from the ouies gps?
>
>-do I need to have an interconnect between the oudie and the recorder
>or can I just let the ew recorder capture its internal data to give me
>record of the flight. I see some comments saying improper plumbing o
>oudie to ew recorder will cook the ew recorder.
>Any help will surely be appreciated.
>
>Da
>
>
>
>
>--
>dan nezgoda
>

[Julian Rees[_2_]]

As Kev says the EW will log without the Oudie, connecting the two together
allows the Oudie to get a better GPS signal and also to get a barometric
altitude from the EW (if you use and Oudie on it's own it uses GPS
altitdude).



At 08:36 12 November 2015, Kevin Neave wrote:
>The EW has it's own intenal GPS and records position & altitude data. I
>does not record any position data from the Oudie. The trace gets recorde
>in a secure IGC format & can be used for badge claims, comps, world
record
>etc.
>
>The Oudie also has it's own internal GPS & is fairly happy to work
without
>connection to the EW. The non-IGC Oudie logger trace can't be used fo
>badge claims, world records, depends on the scorer for comps.
>
>So the pair will work fairly happily without any form of connection.
>
>However some of the early Oudies has issues with "smoothing" of the GP
>position data (The hardware was originally intended as an automotiv
>SatNav) so the Oudie will work "better" if it gets GPS data from the EW
>And at least then what you see on the Oudie will be what get recorded in
>the EW so no shance of thinking that you've reached a TP only to find
that
>your claim gets rejected.The other advantage of connecting the two is
that
>you should be able to declare your task from the Oudie to the EW.
>
>HTH
>
>

[Martin Gregorie[_5_]]

On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:02:58 +0000, Julian Rees wrote:

> As Kev says the EW will log without the Oudie, connecting the two
> together allows the Oudie to get a better GPS signal and also to get a
> barometric altitude from the EW (if you use and Oudie on it's own it
> uses GPS altitdude).
>
Adding to that: I use an EW Microrecorder, but the only external
connection mine has (apart from its GPS antenna) is a 12v supply via the
multi-line (RJ 45?) connector between the GPS antenna and USB sockets,
and that's primarily to keep its internal batteries topped up.

The one thing to note about EW Microrecorders is that the internal
batteries are NIMH rechargeables which have a fairly high self-discharge
rate. This means that if you leave it sitting on a shelf the battery will
be flat after 3 months or so and, if left like that, it will become an ex-
battery and need replacement. During the winter I turn mine on every
month or so and, if it only flashes once or twice, it gets charged
overnight on a USB charger.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

[Tim Newport-Peace[_2_]]

At 12:47 12 November 2015, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:02:58 +0000, Julian Rees wrote:
>
>> As Kev says the EW will log without the Oudie, connecting the two
>> together allows the Oudie to get a better GPS signal and also to get a
>> barometric altitude from the EW (if you use and Oudie on it's own it
>> uses GPS altitdude).
>>
>Adding to that: I use an EW Microrecorder, but the only external
>connection mine has (apart from its GPS antenna) is a 12v supply via the
>multi-line (RJ 45?) connector between the GPS antenna and USB sockets,
>and that's primarily to keep its internal batteries topped up.
>
>The one thing to note about EW Microrecorders is that the internal
>batteries are NIMH rechargeables which have a fairly high self-discharge
>rate. This means that if you leave it sitting on a shelf the battery will

>be flat after 3 months or so and, if left like that, it will become an
ex-
>battery and need replacement. During the winter I turn mine on every
>month or so and, if it only flashes once or twice, it gets charged
>overnight on a USB charger.
>
Have care in using the RJ45. It is not to IGC Standard wiring, heed the
warning at http://www.spsys.demon.co.uk/download.htm#EWA2

Tim Newport-Peace >
Skype: specialist_systems
http://www.spsys.demon.co.uk/icom.htm

[Craig Funston]

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 5:43:11 PM UTC-8, dan nezgoda wrote:
> I am an old geezer returning to soaring after years of hiatus. I go back
> to sectional maps, hand held final glide calcs n cameras mounted to the
> canopy. I purchased a glider with an oudie and a ew microrecorder with a
> handfull of cables.
> a few questions:
> I can work the oudie ok, its great and I understand the microrecorder
> records flight data, but
>
> -does the ew recorder record the flight data it captures itself? I see
> the remote gps is plumbed to the recorder.
>
> -does the recorder record the data it gets from the ouies gps?
>
> -do I need to have an interconnect between the oudie and the recorder?
> or can I just let the ew recorder capture its internal data to give me a
> record of the flight. I see some comments saying improper plumbing of
> oudie to ew recorder will cook the ew recorder.
> Any help will surely be appreciated.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> --
> dan nezgoda

Dan, welcome back to soaring. I remember working on your Zuni many years ago at George's shop. The best part of the oudie is having easy access to a list of alternates that are within range. Have fun!

Craig
7Q

[dan nezgoda]

Thanks guys, i get it now. Its been fun catching up with the science of soaring
After so many years away. When I was active, the asw20 and ventus A were the hot ships in 15m and dick butler was leading the show in open with his 604. Bow says the standard class ships have them all beat!

I must say I do feel the old style of racing where everyone is doing the same tasks is probably a better determiner of quality of airmanship, where disicion making skills on task are evaluated head to head as oppossed to the new style where everyone can more or less do their own thing. Its just a whole new ball game now.

I am going in a slightly different direction working up to doing some record flying in the 1-26 association. Quite a step down from our ventus and for that matter my pilatus b4 but as some of you know the 1-26 will make a pilot outta ya, can't make any mistakes when you only have 22/1 l/d to work with!

Craig you are thinking of my brother Jim who was pretty tight with george and the zunis. I was doing most of the crewing for jim in the 15m regionals and nationals. We got around there for a few years, from hobbs to ionia to cal city etc. I do miss not living in minden however, I am flying dusters all summer in north dakota so no time for soaring but I am in the florida panhandle country for the winter months where a 4k thermal to 4,000agl is a booming day LOL.

Any thanks again folks I sure appreciated the help. Safe flying and many diamonds to you all.
Dan

On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 at 5:43:11 PM UTC-8, dan nezgoda wrote:
I am an old geezer returning to soaring after years of hiatus. I go back
to sectional maps, hand held final glide calcs n cameras mounted to the
canopy. I purchased a glider with an oudie and a ew microrecorder with a
handfull of cables.
a few questions:
I can work the oudie ok, its great and I understand the microrecorder
records flight data, but

-does the ew recorder record the flight data it captures itself? I see
the remote gps is plumbed to the recorder.

-does the recorder record the data it gets from the ouies gps?

-do I need to have an interconnect between the oudie and the recorder?
or can I just let the ew recorder capture its internal data to give me a
record of the flight. I see some comments saying improper plumbing of
oudie to ew recorder will cook the ew recorder.
Any help will surely be appreciated.

Dan




--
dan nezgoda

Dan, welcome back to soaring. I remember working on your Zuni many years ago at George's shop. The best part of the oudie is having easy access to a list of alternates that are within range. Have fun!

Craig
7Q



;910793']At 12:47 12 November 2015, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:02:58 +0000, Julian Rees wrote:

As Kev says the EW will log without the Oudie, connecting the two
together allows the Oudie to get a better GPS signal and also to get a
barometric altitude from the EW (if you use and Oudie on it's own it
uses GPS altitdude).

Adding to that: I use an EW Microrecorder, but the only external
connection mine has (apart from its GPS antenna) is a 12v supply via the
multi-line (RJ 45?) connector between the GPS antenna and USB sockets,
and that's primarily to keep its internal batteries topped up.

The one thing to note about EW Microrecorders is that the internal
batteries are NIMH rechargeables which have a fairly high self-discharge
rate. This means that if you leave it sitting on a shelf the battery will

be flat after 3 months or so and, if left like that, it will become an
ex-
battery and need replacement. During the winter I turn mine on every
month or so and, if it only flashes once or twice, it gets charged
overnight on a USB charger.

Have care in using the RJ45. It is not to IGC Standard wiring, heed the
warning at http://www.spsys.demon.co.uk/download.htm#EWA2

Tim Newport-Peace
Skype: specialist_systems
http://www.spsys.demon.co.uk/icom.htm

[Bob Whelan[_3_]]

> I am going in a slightly different direction working up to doing some
> record flying in the 1-26 association. [...]can't make any mistakes when
> you only have 22/1 l/d to work with!


No *wonder* I always felt I was perfection personified when I was flying my
1-26 - I was living in a mistake-free environment! Too soon we grow old. Too
late we grow smart. :)

Bob W.

[Paul Remde]

Hi Dan,

As others have stated, I do recommend connecting the EW microRecorder to the
Oudie. The Oudie would benefit from the better GPS data and you would be
able to send task declarations from the Oudie to the EW microRecorder.

However, as others have also stated, do NOT connect the Oudie power/data
cable directly to the EW microRecorder. Customers have done that and fried
their EW microRecorder units. You need an adapter cable for connecting them
together. I sell an adapter cable ($50) which can be used with the RJ45
Coupler that was supplied with the Oudie. You power the Oudie power/data
cable with 12V and it powers the EW with 12V and the Oudie with 5V.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
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"dan nezgoda" wrote in message
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I am an old geezer returning to soaring after years of hiatus. I go back
to sectional maps, hand held final glide calcs n cameras mounted to the
canopy. I purchased a glider with an oudie and a ew microrecorder with a
handfull of cables.
a few questions:
I can work the oudie ok, its great and I understand the microrecorder
records flight data, but

-does the ew recorder record the flight data it captures itself? I see
the remote gps is plumbed to the recorder.

-does the recorder record the data it gets from the ouies gps?

-do I need to have an interconnect between the oudie and the recorder?
or can I just let the ew recorder capture its internal data to give me a
record of the flight. I see some comments saying improper plumbing of
oudie to ew recorder will cook the ew recorder.
Any help will surely be appreciated.

Dan




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dan nezgoda