ILEC SN10 free to a young soarer

[Andrew Ainslie]

I have an ILEC SN10 which I'm not using. These are fantastic units, but time has moved on and new ones are fantasticer! My clearnav blows me away every time I fly with it.

So, I'm offering my ILEC SN10 free of charge to one of the following:

- An individual under 30 with an older glider (cirrus, pegasus, perhaps even ventus 1 or discus 1) trying to get into competitive flying or longer distance flying. I want to stick with cheaper gliders as if you have the moolah for an ASG29 you don't need my help!

- A club with a cross country machine but no good onboard GPS, and some sort of program to encourage younger pilots. The aircraft must already be equipped with dual batteries as I don't want it to sit around for a decade while the club gets around to putting electricals in the glider.

- Whoever takes it must give me a commitment to putting the computer in THIS YEAR.

Either way, if there's someone out there that could benefit from a free computer, please let me know. I can't think of anyone at my club that will benefit but first dibs goes to anyone at Harris Hill including HH club gliders, second to anyone associated with UH as I know he'll make sure they use the computer, and thereafter first come first served. Please give me a week to make sure that all potential HH and UH needs have been met.

Regards

Andrew

[John Godfrey (QT)[_2_]]

On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 7:07:04 AM UTC-5, Andrew Ainslie wrote:
> I have an ILEC SN10 which I'm not using. These are fantastic units, but time has moved on and new ones are fantasticer! My clearnav blows me away every time I fly with it.
>
> So, I'm offering my ILEC SN10 free of charge to one of the following:
>
> - An individual under 30 with an older glider (cirrus, pegasus, perhaps even ventus 1 or discus 1) trying to get into competitive flying or longer distance flying. I want to stick with cheaper gliders as if you have the moolah for an ASG29 you don't need my help!
>
> - A club with a cross country machine but no good onboard GPS, and some sort of program to encourage younger pilots. The aircraft must already be equipped with dual batteries as I don't want it to sit around for a decade while the club gets around to putting electricals in the glider.
>
> - Whoever takes it must give me a commitment to putting the computer in THIS YEAR.
>
> Either way, if there's someone out there that could benefit from a free computer, please let me know. I can't think of anyone at my club that will benefit but first dibs goes to anyone at Harris Hill including HH club gliders, second to anyone associated with UH as I know he'll make sure they use the computer, and thereafter first come first served. Please give me a week to make sure that all potential HH and UH needs have been met.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew

Good show Andrew,
Thanks for this.
QT

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Andrew
I have a second 1-26 that I am restoring for the purpose of making it available to young fliers to encourage them to get involved in xc and 1-26 competition. I should have her completed by this fall (i cant work on her may to sept due to being a crop duster, thats my busy time). If the ilec is still available it would find a good and usefull home in promoting xc flying for youngsters.
Dan #225

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On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 6:07:04 AM UTC-6, Andrew Ainslie wrote:
> I have an ILEC SN10 which I'm not using. These are fantastic units, but time has moved on and new ones are fantasticer! My clearnav blows me away every time I fly with it.
>
> So, I'm offering my ILEC SN10 free of charge to one of the following:
>
> - An individual under 30 with an older glider (cirrus, pegasus, perhaps even ventus 1 or discus 1) trying to get into competitive flying or longer distance flying. I want to stick with cheaper gliders as if you have the moolah for an ASG29 you don't need my help!
>
> - A club with a cross country machine but no good onboard GPS, and some sort of program to encourage younger pilots. The aircraft must already be equipped with dual batteries as I don't want it to sit around for a decade while the club gets around to putting electricals in the glider.
>
> - Whoever takes it must give me a commitment to putting the computer in THIS YEAR.
>
> Either way, if there's someone out there that could benefit from a free computer, please let me know. I can't think of anyone at my club that will benefit but first dibs goes to anyone at Harris Hill including HH club gliders, second to anyone associated with UH as I know he'll make sure they use the computer, and thereafter first come first served. Please give me a week to make sure that all potential HH and UH needs have been met.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew

Andrew,

I am very interested in the ILEC SN10. I am 25 and started soaring and got my license all last year! My mentor is Tony Condon and I have been extremely fortunate to have such a great instructor. My goal for this year is to learn to go cross country and this flight computer would be a huge help in doing so. I am in the process of purchasing a share of a Standard Austria with another recent student and this would be a blessing to be able to mount as we move forward this year in our soaring abilities. Please let me know if you need more info!

Sincerely,

Alex

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On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 7:07:04 AM UTC-5, Andrew Ainslie wrote:
> I have an ILEC SN10 which I'm not using. These are fantastic units, but time has moved on and new ones are fantasticer! My clearnav blows me away every time I fly with it.
>
> So, I'm offering my ILEC SN10 free of charge to one of the following:
>
> - An individual under 30 with an older glider (cirrus, pegasus, perhaps even ventus 1 or discus 1) trying to get into competitive flying or longer distance flying. I want to stick with cheaper gliders as if you have the moolah for an ASG29 you don't need my help!
>
> - A club with a cross country machine but no good onboard GPS, and some sort of program to encourage younger pilots. The aircraft must already be equipped with dual batteries as I don't want it to sit around for a decade while the club gets around to putting electricals in the glider.
>
> - Whoever takes it must give me a commitment to putting the computer in THIS YEAR.
>
> Either way, if there's someone out there that could benefit from a free computer, please let me know. I can't think of anyone at my club that will benefit but first dibs goes to anyone at Harris Hill including HH club gliders, second to anyone associated with UH as I know he'll make sure they use the computer, and thereafter first come first served. Please give me a week to make sure that all potential HH and UH needs have been met.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew

And also our club has a Club Libelle meant for encouraging cross country flying.
Last year I ran a cross country prep groundschool and this year we'll be doing
some dual cross country in the club's Grob. The Libelle currently has a
non-functional LX4000 in it, so it's even lacking an electric vario. However,
it has two batteries in it! And, also, we have the Soaring Foundation to
encourage young pilots:

http://www.ncsoaring.org/ncsf.htm

Matt at NCSA

(And I used to fly at HH and I know Hank. Does that count? ;-)

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On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 7:07:04 AM UTC-5, Andrew Ainslie wrote:
> I have an ILEC SN10 which I'm not using. These are fantastic units, but time has moved on and new ones are fantasticer! My clearnav blows me away every time I fly with it.
>
> So, I'm offering my ILEC SN10 free of charge to one of the following:
>
> - An individual under 30 with an older glider (cirrus, pegasus, perhaps even ventus 1 or discus 1) trying to get into competitive flying or longer distance flying. I want to stick with cheaper gliders as if you have the moolah for an ASG29 you don't need my help!
>
> - A club with a cross country machine but no good onboard GPS, and some sort of program to encourage younger pilots. The aircraft must already be equipped with dual batteries as I don't want it to sit around for a decade while the club gets around to putting electricals in the glider.
>
> - Whoever takes it must give me a commitment to putting the computer in THIS YEAR.
>
> Either way, if there's someone out there that could benefit from a free computer, please let me know. I can't think of anyone at my club that will benefit but first dibs goes to anyone at Harris Hill including HH club gliders, second to anyone associated with UH as I know he'll make sure they use the computer, and thereafter first come first served. Please give me a week to make sure that all potential HH and UH needs have been met.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew

I'm finishing a '19 for a HH young guy you may know- Robbie. He will be getting the ship in April.It would go well in that ship if you do not find a better home.
Good job
UH

[Andrew Ainslie]

Wow, I did not expect so much response so quickly! I would urge anyone else sitting around with unused equipment to consider offering it to those who has responded to this thread who I won't be able to help.

I have to stick with my rules, so the first winner so far is Robbie and Hank, followed by Dan. Boy, there is just something so amusing about thinking of a 1-26 with an Ilec in it :) I'll wait a few more days to see if anyone from HH responds as per my original post, after which I'll give you a call Hank.

To the others, I really wish I could help all of you. I sincerely hope that other old, unused pieces of equipment show up over the next few weeks so you ALL get to do more cross country, or encourage your young members to do so. I KNOW there have to be a bunch of old units lying around collecting dust!

Thanks all

Andrew

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On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 7:27:47 PM UTC-5, Andrew Ainslie wrote:
> Wow, I did not expect so much response so quickly! I would urge anyone else sitting around with unused equipment to consider offering it to those who has responded to this thread who I won't be able to help.
>
> I have to stick with my rules, so the first winner so far is Robbie and Hank, followed by Dan. Boy, there is just something so amusing about thinking of a 1-26 with an Ilec in it :) I'll wait a few more days to see if anyone from HH responds as per my original post, after which I'll give you a call Hank.
>
> To the others, I really wish I could help all of you. I sincerely hope that other old, unused pieces of equipment show up over the next few weeks so you ALL get to do more cross country, or encourage your young members to do so. I KNOW there have to be a bunch of old units lying around collecting dust!
>
> Thanks all
>
> Andrew

I have an early Cambridge vario with audio that would become surplus if Robbie gets the SN10. This will go to Dan or someone else who will use it for kids or newbies.
UH

[ND]

On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 8:36:12 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Monday, March 7, 2016 at 6:07:04 AM UTC-6, Andrew Ainslie wrote:
> > I have an ILEC SN10 which I'm not using. These are fantastic units, but time has moved on and new ones are fantasticer! My clearnav blows me away every time I fly with it.
> >
> > So, I'm offering my ILEC SN10 free of charge to one of the following:
> >
> > - An individual under 30 with an older glider (cirrus, pegasus, perhaps even ventus 1 or discus 1) trying to get into competitive flying or longer distance flying. I want to stick with cheaper gliders as if you have the moolah for an ASG29 you don't need my help!
> >
> > - A club with a cross country machine but no good onboard GPS, and some sort of program to encourage younger pilots. The aircraft must already be equipped with dual batteries as I don't want it to sit around for a decade while the club gets around to putting electricals in the glider.
> >
> > - Whoever takes it must give me a commitment to putting the computer in THIS YEAR.
> >
> > Either way, if there's someone out there that could benefit from a free computer, please let me know. I can't think of anyone at my club that will benefit but first dibs goes to anyone at Harris Hill including HH club gliders, second to anyone associated with UH as I know he'll make sure they use the computer, and thereafter first come first served. Please give me a week to make sure that all potential HH and UH needs have been met.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Andrew
>
> Andrew,
>
> I am very interested in the ILEC SN10. I am 25 and started soaring and got my license all last year! My mentor is Tony Condon and I have been extremely fortunate to have such a great instructor. My goal for this year is to learn to go cross country and this flight computer would be a huge help in doing so. I am in the process of purchasing a share of a Standard Austria with another recent student and this would be a blessing to be able to mount as we move forward this year in our soaring abilities. Please let me know if you need more info!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Alex

Hi Alex, how would you like to purchase your OWN sh-1? you can get it for a similar price as a share in an SHK-1 although the reason is that the wings need to be painted. and by need to be painted i mean they are stripped. the good news is that some of the work is already done. PM me, brayera at gmail dot com

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Thanks Andrew and UH, that would be great if your vario becomes availabe for my donor 1-26. Andrew I used to have and old cambridge ( old like in 1975 old) and it died so I replaced it with a used cambridge 302 system, i cant say that it makes a 1-26 fly any flatter but it sure helps on seeing if the next iffy glide is gonna get me home or put me in a swamp lol. Thanks again.
Dan #225

[smfidler]

Very nice of you! Bravo!

[Andrew Ainslie]

Ok, that seal the deal. If this the Robbie I think it is, Hank, this is perfect. He took me up for my first glider flight in 13 years and we flew a duo disco waaaay further than we were meant to (Dansville and back... He wasn't cross country cleared!) trying to make an old Cambridge work along the way. He was a fantastic host, and asked nothing in return. This is a nice repayment!

I'll email you to get addresses, Hank. Dan, enjoy the Cambridge!

[Paul Agnew]

Kudos! Classy move that we should emulate to support the growth of soaring.

[Peter von Tresckow]

Paul Agnew > wrote:
> Kudos! Classy move that we should emulate to support the growth of soaring.
>
>

That begs the question. What is happening to all of the 302s and SN-10s
that are being replaced with the latest and greatest?

I need to step into the mid 90s as my old S-Nav is getting wonky ;-)

Pete

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Well I dont know Pete, I just installed a 302 in my 1-26 and it is fantasticly working slaved to an older oudie. I just finished an 140 mile xc a few days ago in pretty weak conditions and that pair did dang near everything I could hope for. I dont think for most sailplanes that much more is needed unless a guy is entering serious competition.

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 4:48:45 PM UTC-5, vontresc wrote:
> Paul Agnew <bluejet941@email> wrote:
> > Kudos! Classy move that we should emulate to support the growth of soaring.
> >
> >
>
> That begs the question. What is happening to all of the 302s and SN-10s
> that are being replaced with the latest and greatest?
>
> I need to step into the mid 90s as my old S-Nav is getting wonky ;-)
>
> Pete

I'm NOT a tax lawyer/accountant, I wonder if "donating" old glider hardware is a tax write-off (in the US or other locations)?

I think it's great this thread was started.

I will say, I asked about one item offered only because it has "some historical/sentimental value" to me.
Why?
I crewed for Raouf Ishmail in the '70's, he sent me a prototype vario & audio which was used a lot (the vario was an additional payment...... used for years in 1-26 SN 002! by me & others) I even have the "carbonless copy" of the slip sent with it.

Fantastic to see peep's helping out the "new generation" with "stuff".
I was helped as well, actually, still being helped although I have little to show for it (other than really shiny gliders).

Maybe others can find a "tax reason" to help out the next group, you gain a bit, the next group gains a lot more!!

[Craig Funston]

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-8, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 4:48:45 PM UTC-5, vontresc wrote:
> > Paul Agnew <bluejet941@email> wrote:
> > > Kudos! Classy move that we should emulate to support the growth of soaring.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > That begs the question. What is happening to all of the 302s and SN-10s
> > that are being replaced with the latest and greatest?
> >
> > I need to step into the mid 90s as my old S-Nav is getting wonky ;-)
> >
> > Pete
>
> I'm NOT a tax lawyer/accountant, I wonder if "donating" old glider hardware is a tax write-off (in the US or other locations)?
>
> I think it's great this thread was started.
>
> I will say, I asked about one item offered only because it has "some historical/sentimental value" to me.
> Why?
> I crewed for Raouf Ishmail in the '70's, he sent me a prototype vario & audio which was used a lot (the vario was an additional payment...... used for years in 1-26 SN 002! by me & others) I even have the "carbonless copy" of the slip sent with it.
>
> Fantastic to see peep's helping out the "new generation" with "stuff".
> I was helped as well, actually, still being helped although I have little to show for it (other than really shiny gliders).
>
> Maybe others can find a "tax reason" to help out the next group, you gain a bit, the next group gains a lot more!!

It's only tax deductible if the donation is to a charitable 501(c)(3) organization as defined by the IRS. Some clubs qualify. I know the Seattle Glider Council Foundation which was established for educational purposes is registered with the IRS as a 501(c)(3). If there's interest I can see if they would be up for receiving instruments in good working order and getting them into the proper hands. There's a fair amount of administrative effort to get documentation back to donors and to distribute donations properly & it's a volunteer organization, but it's worth pitching.

Cheers,
7Q

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 5:45:46 PM UTC-5, Craig Funston wrote:
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 2:10:12 PM UTC-8, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
> > On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 4:48:45 PM UTC-5, vontresc wrote:
> > > Paul Agnew <bluejet941@email> wrote:
> > > > Kudos! Classy move that we should emulate to support the growth of soaring.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > That begs the question. What is happening to all of the 302s and SN-10s
> > > that are being replaced with the latest and greatest?
> > >
> > > I need to step into the mid 90s as my old S-Nav is getting wonky ;-)
> > >
> > > Pete
> >
> > I'm NOT a tax lawyer/accountant, I wonder if "donating" old glider hardware is a tax write-off (in the US or other locations)?
> >
> > I think it's great this thread was started.
> >
> > I will say, I asked about one item offered only because it has "some historical/sentimental value" to me.
> > Why?
> > I crewed for Raouf Ishmail in the '70's, he sent me a prototype vario & audio which was used a lot (the vario was an additional payment...... used for years in 1-26 SN 002! by me & others) I even have the "carbonless copy" of the slip sent with it.
> >
> > Fantastic to see peep's helping out the "new generation" with "stuff".
> > I was helped as well, actually, still being helped although I have little to show for it (other than really shiny gliders).
> >
> > Maybe others can find a "tax reason" to help out the next group, you gain a bit, the next group gains a lot more!!
>
> It's only tax deductible if the donation is to a charitable 501(c)(3) organization as defined by the IRS. Some clubs qualify. I know the Seattle Glider Council Foundation which was established for educational purposes is registered with the IRS as a 501(c)(3). If there's interest I can see if they would be up for receiving instruments in good working order and getting them into the proper hands. There's a fair amount of administrative effort to get documentation back to donors and to distribute donations properly & it's a volunteer organization, but it's worth pitching.
>
> Cheers,
> 7Q

Excellent reply, thanks. If it goes through our club we are also a 501 (c) (3) IIRC.
Not saying this is needed for a "low price" item, but good to know.

Thanks for the info.

BTW, tax time is coming, "charitable donations" can help out peeps before doing 2015 taxes. ;-)

[Paul Agnew]

I'm pretty sure donations would have to be made by Dec 31, 2015 for them to apply to 2015 taxes.

Don't let that stop you from making a donation either way.

Paul A.