iGlide

[runner4065]

Is there any value to iGlide (iOS app) if you don't have their sensor / vario hardware? What features remain?

[Casey[_2_]]

Isn't one of only two gliding apps for iPhone? If one already has an iPhone no need to buy a navigation display. Compatible with 3 different live tracking sites and upload to OLC. Emailable IGC file. Updating seems easy. Beautiful screen image and easy to use. Drop and drag task or go to that is easily changed on the fly. Suppose to work well with Flarm.

But what do I know, I just downloaded last night.

[jfitch]

On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 10:36:27 AM UTC-7, runner4065 wrote:
> Is there any value to iGlide (iOS app) if you don't have their sensor / vario hardware? What features remain?

All of the features remain, except:

Instantaneous wind provided by the Vario
Flarm (and ADSB) target display
Thermal assistant using instantaneous wind

I think everything else works. On a 6 series phone you have barometric altitude as well as GPS altitude in the phone. The GPS in the phone is pretty much as good as all the others in the glider. If you add the Air Connect from Air Avionics, you can stream vario and Flarm data from a C 302 or whatever.

I have been flying with the Vario and iPhone for 2 years, an iPhone 6+ last year as my primary flight display. For awhile I had occasional problems with it disconnecting from the Vario WiFi server. When it does so, it falls back on the internal iPhone GPS and barograph. It often took me the better part of an hour to notice, so yeah, it works pretty well. I had to put up a navbox showing GPS source so I could catch it.

[Dan Marotta]

Yes, but you must have an iPhone to run it...

Having said that, I just flew my new Stemme from Laredo, TX to Payson,
AZ and my copilot/CFI had an iPad, Foreflight and Stratus. I was very
impressed with that combination.

On 3/23/2016 11:32 AM, Casey wrote:
> Isn't one of only two gliding apps for iPhone? If one already has an iPhone no need to buy a navigation display. Compatible with 3 different live tracking sites and upload to OLC. Emailable IGC file. Updating seems easy. Beautiful screen image and easy to use. Drop and drag task or go to that is easily changed on the fly. Suppose to work well with Flarm.
>
> But what do I know, I just downloaded last night.

--
Dan, 5J

[jfitch]

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 7:57:58 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Yes, but you must have an iPhone to run it...
>
>
>
> Having said that, I just flew my new Stemme from Laredo, TX to
> Payson, AZ and my copilot/CFI had an iPad, Foreflight and Stratus.*
> I was very impressed with that combination.
>
>
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> On 3/23/2016 11:32 AM, Casey wrote:
>
>
>
> Isn't one of only two gliding apps for iPhone? If one already has an iPhone no need to buy a navigation display. Compatible with 3 different live tracking sites and upload to OLC. Emailable IGC file. Updating seems easy. Beautiful screen image and easy to use. Drop and drag task or go to that is easily changed on the fly. Suppose to work well with Flarm.
>
> But what do I know, I just downloaded last night.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dan, 5J

It runs on an iPad as well.

[Andrzej Kobus]

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:57:58 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Yes, but you must have an iPhone to run it...
>
>
>
> Having said that, I just flew my new Stemme from Laredo, TX to
> Payson, AZ and my copilot/CFI had an iPad, Foreflight and Stratus.*
> I was very impressed with that combination.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/23/2016 11:32 AM, Casey wrote:
>
>
>
> Isn't one of only two gliding apps for iPhone? If one already has an iPhone no need to buy a navigation display. Compatible with 3 different live tracking sites and upload to OLC. Emailable IGC file. Updating seems easy. Beautiful screen image and easy to use. Drop and drag task or go to that is easily changed on the fly. Suppose to work well with Flarm.
>
> But what do I know, I just downloaded last night.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dan, 5J

and ForeFlight runs on iPhone 6s Plus

[Dan Marotta]

<snip>

> It runs on an iPad as well.
Hmmmmmmm.... That's almost enough to entice me to sip from the Apple
kool-aide.
--
Dan, 5J

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

Dan Marotta wrote on 3/24/2016 5:32 PM:
> <snip>
>
>> It runs on an iPad as well.
> Hmmmmmmm....� That's almost enough to entice me to sip from the Apple
> kool-aide.

iGlide is gorgeous on my iPad Mini because it uses the extra screen area
to show more, but the Mini is not as bright as my iPhone 6. I plan to
use my iPhone with iGlide in my ASH 26 E, and try an iPad with iGlide in
my Phoenix, where the panel has the room for it. The newer iPad minis
may be brighter than my iPad mini, but I think it will be adequate.


--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"

https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/Guide-to-transponders-in-sailplanes-2014A.pdf

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

Andrzej Kobus wrote on 3/24/2016 10:28 AM:
>> > Dan, 5J
> and ForeFlight runs on iPhone 6s Plus

And also on a plain iPhone 6. Foreflight, iGlide, and some other apps
still don't use up it's meager 16 GB memory, either.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation"

https://sites.google.com/site/motorgliders/publications/download-the-guide-1
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm

http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/Guide-to-transponders-in-sailplanes-2014A.pdf

[son_of_flubber]

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:57:58 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
>... I just flew my new Stemme from Laredo, TX to
> Payson, AZ

Hey Guys! He has a new Stemme! (Congrats Dan. I hope you have lots of fun in it.)

[Casey[_2_]]

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:32:31 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> <snip>
>
>
> It runs on an iPad as well.
>
>
> Hmmmmmmm....* That's almost enough to entice me to sip from the
> Apple kool-aide.
>
>
> --
>
> Dan, 5J


Don't do it Dan, It will change your life and make navigating, updates, and life too easy.

[Casey[_2_]]

On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:32:31 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> <snip>
>
>
> It runs on an iPad as well.
>
>
> Hmmmmmmm....* That's almost enough to entice me to sip from the
> Apple kool-aide.
>
>
> --
>
> Dan, 5J


Don't do it Dan, It will change your life and make navigating, updates, and life too easy.

Also the Ram X-Grip mounts are great.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v9gs2n1900kohmm/DSC00466.JPG?dl=0

[Dan Marotta]

New to me, but only 80 hours on the airframe when I bought it. I now
have it registered and licensed and waiting to hear from US Customs if
there's some kind of inspection I need to have done since I had it
brought in from Mexico. I have a one-day window (Sunday) due to the
high spring time winds in New Mexico, to bring it home.

On 3/24/2016 9:06 PM, son_of_flubber wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 10:57:58 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> ... I just flew my new Stemme from Laredo, TX to
>> Payson, AZ
> Hey Guys! He has a new Stemme! (Congrats Dan. I hope you have lots of fun in it.)

--
Dan, 5J

[Dan Marotta]

But... Android is (dare I say it)... FREE...

Yeah, I know... I now own a Stemme. But now I /_really need_/ some
free stuff.

On 3/25/2016 5:07 AM, Casey wrote:
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 8:32:31 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>> It runs on an iPad as well.
>>
>>
>> Hmmmmmmm.... That's almost enough to entice me to sip from the
>> Apple kool-aide.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dan, 5J
>
> Don't do it Dan, It will change your life and make navigating, updates, and life too easy.
>
> Also the Ram X-Grip mounts are great.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/v9gs2n1900kohmm/DSC00466.JPG?dl=0

--
Dan, 5J

[Jonathan St. Cloud]

Since we are drifting: ...And you get what you pay for! I had an android phone and twice while I was using that ecosystem, I had downloaded an app that interfered with other apps and crashed the entire phone. Had to wipe it clean and start over. Apple has to vet all apps before they are approved for store. Plus FULL backups are stored on computer, complete with all you txt messages, calls in and out... Not wanting to start a flame war of android vs apple iOS, but just sharing something that I would want to know as a consumer.


On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> But...* Android is (dare I say it)...* FREE...
>

[Dan Marotta]

Not flaming, just speaking my mind.

I've got plenty of time to rebuild my phone and, should I choose, I can
grant it root privileges and do things that can't be done with an Apple,
as far as I know. I can back up everything on my laptop and online, but
I don't want my private stuff online and available to hackers. And, to
be fair, I think Apple hardware quality is top notch and their displays
are much crisper than Android. But, for me, free is always better, and
I can load applications from sources other than the "Store". Yes, it's
a risk, but I've found a lot of stuff that I don't think you can get for
Apple products.

On 3/25/2016 11:00 AM, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> Since we are drifting: ...And you get what you pay for! I had an android phone and twice while I was using that ecosystem, I had downloaded an app that interfered with other apps and crashed the entire phone. Had to wipe it clean and start over. Apple has to vet all apps before they are approved for store. Plus FULL backups are stored on computer, complete with all you txt messages, calls in and out... Not wanting to start a flame war of android vs apple iOS, but just sharing something that I would want to know as a consumer.
>
>
> On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> But... Android is (dare I say it)... FREE...
>>

--
Dan, 5J

[Loye Hilton[_2_]]

At 00:53 26 March 2016, Dan Marotta wrote:
>Not flaming, just speaking my mind.
>
>I've got plenty of time to rebuild my phone and, should I choose, I can
>grant it root privileges and do things that can't be done with an Apple,
>as far as I know. I can back up everything on my laptop and online, but
>I don't want my private stuff online and available to hackers. And, to
>be fair, I think Apple hardware quality is top notch and their displays
>are much crisper than Android. But, for me, free is always better, and
>I can load applications from sources other than the "Store". Yes, it's
>a risk, but I've found a lot of stuff that I don't think you can get for
>Apple products.
>
>On 3/25/2016 11:00 AM, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
>> Since we are drifting: ...And you get what you pay for! I had an
>android phone and twice while I was using that ecosystem, I had
downloaded
>an app that interfered with other apps and crashed the entire phone. Had
>to wipe it clean and start over. Apple has to vet all apps before they
are
>approved for store. Plus FULL backups are stored on computer, complete
>with all you txt messages, calls in and out... Not wanting to start a
>flame war of android vs apple iOS, but just sharing something that I
would
>want to know as a consumer.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>> But... Android is (dare I say it)... FREE...
>>>
>
>--
>Dan, 5J
>Dan... Who cares, fly the plane and have fun

[Dan Marotta]

Great advice, Loye.

Today I stuck on my call sign, 5J, and I plan to fly her home to
Moriarty on Sunday. :-D

On 3/25/2016 8:54 PM, Loye Hilton wrote:
> At 00:53 26 March 2016, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Not flaming, just speaking my mind.
>>
>> I've got plenty of time to rebuild my phone and, should I choose, I can
>> grant it root privileges and do things that can't be done with an Apple,
>> as far as I know. I can back up everything on my laptop and online, but
>> I don't want my private stuff online and available to hackers. And, to
>> be fair, I think Apple hardware quality is top notch and their displays
>> are much crisper than Android. But, for me, free is always better, and
>> I can load applications from sources other than the "Store". Yes, it's
>> a risk, but I've found a lot of stuff that I don't think you can get for
>> Apple products.
>>
>> On 3/25/2016 11:00 AM, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
>>> Since we are drifting: ...And you get what you pay for! I had an
>> android phone and twice while I was using that ecosystem, I had
> downloaded
>> an app that interfered with other apps and crashed the entire phone. Had
>> to wipe it clean and start over. Apple has to vet all apps before they
> are
>> approved for store. Plus FULL backups are stored on computer, complete
>> with all you txt messages, calls in and out... Not wanting to start a
>> flame war of android vs apple iOS, but just sharing something that I
> would
>> want to know as a consumer.
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>> But... Android is (dare I say it)... FREE...
>>>>
>> --
>> Dan, 5J
>> Dan... Who cares, fly the plane and have fun
>

--
Dan, 5J

[[email protected]]

On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:03:08 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Great advice, Loye.
>
>
>
> Today I stuck on my call sign, 5J, and I plan to fly her home to
> Moriarty on Sunday.* :-D
>
>
>
>
> On 3/25/2016 8:54 PM, Loye Hilton
> wrote:
>
>
>
> At 00:53 26 March 2016, Dan Marotta wrote:
>
>
> Not flaming, just speaking my mind.
>
> I've got plenty of time to rebuild my phone and, should I choose, I can
> grant it root privileges and do things that can't be done with an Apple,
> as far as I know. I can back up everything on my laptop and online, but
> I don't want my private stuff online and available to hackers. And, to
> be fair, I think Apple hardware quality is top notch and their displays
> are much crisper than Android. But, for me, free is always better, and
> I can load applications from sources other than the "Store". Yes, it's
> a risk, but I've found a lot of stuff that I don't think you can get for
> Apple products.
>
> On 3/25/2016 11:00 AM, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
>
>
> Since we are drifting: ...And you get what you pay for! I had an
>
>
> android phone and twice while I was using that ecosystem, I had
>
>
> downloaded
>
>
> an app that interfered with other apps and crashed the entire phone. Had
> to wipe it clean and start over. Apple has to vet all apps before they
>
>
> are
>
>
> approved for store. Plus FULL backups are stored on computer, complete
> with all you txt messages, calls in and out... Not wanting to start a
> flame war of android vs apple iOS, but just sharing something that I
>
>
> would
>
>
> want to know as a consumer.
>
>
> On Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:04:16 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>
>
> But... Android is (dare I say it)... FREE...
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dan, 5J
> Dan... Who cares, fly the plane and have fun
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Dan, 5J

Hey Dan

What is your new N number and did you make it home Sunday, if so how was the flight. Sorry you didn't make it to Tucson

Bruce

[Dan Marotta]

Hi Bruce,

The Number is N995J and the call sign is, of course, 5J.

I only had a one-day window (Easter Sunday) where the winds were low
enough for this low-time Stemme pilot to feel comfortable with. It was
a great flight home, though I only shutdown the engine when I was about
20 miles out. Too much unlandable terrain under me for the hour and 50
minutes it took to cover 268 NM.

And, since this thread is about soaring software, my Dell Streak 5
running XCSoar performed flawlessly and kept me apprised of landable
airports within glide range for the whole flight.

Dan

<snip>
> Hey Dan
>
> What is your new N number and did you make it home Sunday, if so how was the flight. Sorry you didn't make it to Tucson
>
> Bruce

--
Dan, 5J