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AS
April 24th 16, 02:41 PM
Is there a trick for making the life tracker on the SSA website work? I tried to follow the Perry contest but was only able to get it to work on my iPhone but not on my laptop. Only got a blank screen there. I am using Chrome as a browser and Windoze 7 Professional.

Uli

Craig Reinholt
April 24th 16, 02:59 PM
Same issue here. Windows 7 Home with both Firefox or IE. Neither would work.

JS
April 24th 16, 06:16 PM
Glideport.aero is working fine in Win8.1 and Win10 both with Firefox. Had to tell the home stereo (Win10) to accept the cookies, before that was blank.
Jim

April 25th 16, 03:27 PM
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, JS wrote:
> Glideport.aero is working fine in Win8.1 and Win10 both with Firefox. Had to tell the home stereo (Win10) to accept the cookies, before that was blank.
> Jim

Worked fine on my Chrome/Winduz 7 Professional

Just wished that the tracks shown were reporting altitude and fixes at 10 second intervals Some do, most don't but that is a function of the tracker not the web site!

Bob 7U

David Kinsell[_2_]
May 5th 16, 02:20 AM
On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 10:16:55 -0700, JS wrote:

> Glideport.aero is working fine in Win8.1 and Win10 both with Firefox.
> Had to tell the home stereo (Win10) to accept the cookies, before that
> was blank.
> Jim

I just had to confirm a security exemption to get glideport.aero to work
(Firefox on Linux). Have seen some inconsistent problems using the ssa
link.

Also, it didn't pick up my Spot trace yesterday, worked fine last year.

-Dave

June 26th 20, 07:18 PM
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 6:41:50 AM UTC-7, AS wrote:
> Is there a trick for making the life tracker on the SSA website work? I tried to follow the Perry contest but was only able to get it to work on my iPhone but not on my laptop. Only got a blank screen there. I am using Chrome as a browser and Windoze 7 Professional.
>
> Uli

SPOT have changed their mapping service and formats, here is how to make a URL suitable for use at glideport.aero:-

share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=09zinCBIVfVFEcsbxqddrCIFbMlqMPx xx
where the example starting with 09z is replaced by your own XML link. This has to be a separate link with a different title than your shared page. Here is how to get your XML number:-
1) log in to findmespot.com
2)Maps
3)History mode
4)Manage (little lines with check marks icon)
5)Shared Views
6) Add shared view
7) Make a shared view with a different tile such as MYXMLFeed
8) Home
9) XML Feed
10) View Details on MYXMLFeed
11) The XML Feed ID should be displayed. Copy and paste it, append it to the text
share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=
and you are good to go.
Worked for me!!

Sometimes a SPOT will work for years with glideport, then sudenly stop working. This is because if glideport ever has a communication difficulty with SPOT, it automatically deletes that particular XML feed as a safety precaution. The fix is to make another XML feed on your SPOT account, then register this new feed on glideport. There is a way to test your XML feed, simply go to this URL:-
https://api.findmespot.com/spot-main-web/consumer/rest-api/2.0/public/feed/09zinCBIVfVFEcsbxqddrCIFbMlqMPxxx/message.json
with your own XML Feed ID. If you get an error message then there is something wrong with the feed, contact SPOT. If you get position fixes but glideport does not display your SPOT, then make a new XML feed and register the new feed with SPOT. Each new feed typically lasts several years, and you can delete obsolete ones on the SPOT site.

Duncan

Bill Tisdale
August 30th 20, 02:35 PM
On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 9:41:50 AM UTC-4, AS wrote:
> Is there a trick for making the life tracker on the SSA website work? I tried to follow the Perry contest but was only able to get it to work on my iPhone but not on my laptop. Only got a blank screen there. I am using Chrome as a browser and Windoze 7 Professional.
>
> Uli
I cannot get glideportaero to load this morning 8/30/2020. Both Link from SSA Sailplane Tracker or directly to the glideportaero url. No response, too long to load, error messages. Any ideas?

Bill T

2G
August 30th 20, 03:57 PM
On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:35:51 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 9:41:50 AM UTC-4, AS wrote:
> > Is there a trick for making the life tracker on the SSA website work? I tried to follow the Perry contest but was only able to get it to work on my iPhone but not on my laptop. Only got a blank screen there. I am using Chrome as a browser and Windoze 7 Professional.
> >
> > Uli
> I cannot get glideportaero to load this morning 8/30/2020. Both Link from SSA Sailplane Tracker or directly to the glideportaero url. No response, too long to load, error messages. Any ideas?
>
> Bill T
It's working for me.

Martin Gregorie[_6_]
August 30th 20, 05:00 PM
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:35:48 -0700, Bill Tisdale wrote:

> I cannot get glideportaero to load this morning 8/30/2020. Both Link
> from SSA Sailplane Tracker or directly to the glideportaero url. No
> response, too long to load, error messages. Any ideas?
>
If your PC has the ping and traceroute commands installed, try them to
see if/where there's a network problem. IIRC they are standard issue for
Windows and definitely for Linux. Dunno about Apple kit. They are run
from the command line. In case you haven't used them:

Both are run from the command line:

ping glideport.aero

shows success or failure at contacting the URP you give it.

traceroute glideport.aero

shows every step along the way from you to the URL on success and
otherwise shows where the fault lies and what the fault is.

You don't need these programs all the time, but they are very useful in
working out whether a connection is broken and if so, where.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

2G
August 30th 20, 07:08 PM
On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 9:00:36 AM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:35:48 -0700, Bill Tisdale wrote:
>
> > I cannot get glideportaero to load this morning 8/30/2020. Both Link
> > from SSA Sailplane Tracker or directly to the glideportaero url. No
> > response, too long to load, error messages. Any ideas?
> >
> If your PC has the ping and traceroute commands installed, try them to
> see if/where there's a network problem. IIRC they are standard issue for
> Windows and definitely for Linux. Dunno about Apple kit. They are run
> from the command line. In case you haven't used them:
>
> Both are run from the command line:
>
> ping glideport.aero
>
> shows success or failure at contacting the URP you give it.
>
> traceroute glideport.aero
>
> shows every step along the way from you to the URL on success and
> otherwise shows where the fault lies and what the fault is.
>
> You don't need these programs all the time, but they are very useful in
> working out whether a connection is broken and if so, where.
>
>
> --
> Martin | martin at
> Gregorie | gregorie dot org

I tried traceroute, but that command is not supported under Win10. Ping is, and I got 4 reasonable responses. The IP address for glideport.aero is http://107.170.23.252/. When I enter that in the search bar I get connected to glideport.aero.

Tom

kinsell
August 30th 20, 08:03 PM
On 8/30/20 10:00 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:35:48 -0700, Bill Tisdale wrote:
>
>> I cannot get glideportaero to load this morning 8/30/2020. Both Link
>> from SSA Sailplane Tracker or directly to the glideportaero url. No
>> response, too long to load, error messages. Any ideas?
>>
> If your PC has the ping and traceroute commands installed, try them to
> see if/where there's a network problem. IIRC they are standard issue for
> Windows and definitely for Linux. Dunno about Apple kit. They are run
> from the command line. In case you haven't used them:
>
> Both are run from the command line:
>
> ping glideport.aero
>
> shows success or failure at contacting the URP you give it.
>
> traceroute glideport.aero
>
> shows every step along the way from you to the URL on success and
> otherwise shows where the fault lies and what the fault is.
>
> You don't need these programs all the time, but they are very useful in
> working out whether a connection is broken and if so, where.
>
>

It's working for me. There was a big problem that's being resolved now,
possibly related:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/tech/internet-outage-cloudflare/index.html

Tim Newport-Peace[_6_]
August 30th 20, 10:20 PM
At 18:08 30 August 2020, 2G wrote:
>On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 9:00:36 AM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:35:48 -0700, Bill Tisdale wrote:
>>
>> > I cannot get glideportaero to load this morning 8/30/2020. Both Link
>> > from SSA Sailplane Tracker or directly to the glideportaero url. No
>> > response, too long to load, error messages. Any ideas?
>> >
>> If your PC has the ping and traceroute commands installed, try them to
>> see if/where there's a network problem. IIRC they are standard issue for

>> Windows and definitely for Linux. Dunno about Apple kit. They are run
>> from the command line. In case you haven't used them:
>>
>> Both are run from the command line:
>>
>> ping glideport.aero
>>
>> shows success or failure at contacting the URP you give it.
>>
>> traceroute glideport.aero
>>
>> shows every step along the way from you to the URL on success and
>> otherwise shows where the fault lies and what the fault is.
>>
>> You don't need these programs all the time, but they are very useful in

>> working out whether a connection is broken and if so, where.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Martin | martin at
>> Gregorie | gregorie dot org
>
>I tried traceroute, but that command is not supported under Win10. Ping
is,
>and I got 4 reasonable responses. The IP address for glideport.aero is
>http://107.170.23.252/. When I enter that in the search bar I get
connected
>to glideport.aero.
>
>Tom
>
Use tracert not traceroute

2G
August 31st 20, 01:25 AM
On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:30:04 PM UTC-7, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:
> At 18:08 30 August 2020, 2G wrote:
> >On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 9:00:36 AM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:35:48 -0700, Bill Tisdale wrote:
> >>
> >> > I cannot get glideportaero to load this morning 8/30/2020. Both Link
> >> > from SSA Sailplane Tracker or directly to the glideportaero url. No
> >> > response, too long to load, error messages. Any ideas?
> >> >
> >> If your PC has the ping and traceroute commands installed, try them to
> >> see if/where there's a network problem. IIRC they are standard issue for
>
> >> Windows and definitely for Linux. Dunno about Apple kit. They are run
> >> from the command line. In case you haven't used them:
> >>
> >> Both are run from the command line:
> >>
> >> ping glideport.aero
> >>
> >> shows success or failure at contacting the URP you give it.
> >>
> >> traceroute glideport.aero
> >>
> >> shows every step along the way from you to the URL on success and
> >> otherwise shows where the fault lies and what the fault is.
> >>
> >> You don't need these programs all the time, but they are very useful in
>
> >> working out whether a connection is broken and if so, where.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Martin | martin at
> >> Gregorie | gregorie dot org
> >
> >I tried traceroute, but that command is not supported under Win10. Ping
> is,
> >and I got 4 reasonable responses. The IP address for glideport.aero is
> >http://107.170.23.252/. When I enter that in the search bar I get
> connected
> >to glideport.aero.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> Use tracert not traceroute

A better one is https://www.pingplotter.com/download

Tom

5Z
August 31st 20, 08:58 PM
On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 6:35:51 AM UTC-7, Bill Tisdale wrote:
> I cannot get glideportaero to load this morning 8/30/2020. Both Link
> from SSA Sailplane Tracker or directly to the glideportaero url. No
> response, too long to load, error messages. Any ideas?

Use this website to find out: https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/
Of course, that's if *that* website is up :-)

Tom

John Gillis
September 8th 20, 09:57 PM
On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 12:18:08 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 6:41:50 AM UTC-7, AS wrote:
> > Is there a trick for making the life tracker on the SSA website work? I tried to follow the Perry contest but was only able to get it to work on my iPhone but not on my laptop. Only got a blank screen there. I am using Chrome as a browser and Windoze 7 Professional.
> >
> > Uli
> SPOT have changed their mapping service and formats, here is how to make a URL suitable for use at glideport.aero:-
>
> share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=09zinCBIVfVFEcsbxqddrCIFbMlqMPx xx
> where the example starting with 09z is replaced by your own XML link. This has to be a separate link with a different title than your shared page. Here is how to get your XML number:-
> 1) log in to findmespot.com
> 2)Maps
> 3)History mode
> 4)Manage (little lines with check marks icon)
> 5)Shared Views
> 6) Add shared view
> 7) Make a shared view with a different tile such as MYXMLFeed
> 8) Home
> 9) XML Feed
> 10) View Details on MYXMLFeed
> 11) The XML Feed ID should be displayed. Copy and paste it, append it to the text
> share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=
> and you are good to go.
> Worked for me!!
>
> Sometimes a SPOT will work for years with glideport, then sudenly stop working. This is because if glideport ever has a communication difficulty with SPOT, it automatically deletes that particular XML feed as a safety precaution. The fix is to make another XML feed on your SPOT account, then register this new feed on glideport. There is a way to test your XML feed, simply go to this URL:-
> https://api.findmespot.com/spot-main-web/consumer/rest-api/2.0/public/feed/09zinCBIVfVFEcsbxqddrCIFbMlqMPxxx/message.json
> with your own XML Feed ID. If you get an error message then there is something wrong with the feed, contact SPOT. If you get position fixes but glideport does not display your SPOT, then make a new XML feed and register the new feed with SPOT. Each new feed typically lasts several years, and you can delete obsolete ones on the SPOT site.
>
> Duncan
Has anyone gotten the ADSB tracker link to work? I've tried adsb:myICAO but it doesn't seem to work.

Bruce
September 20th 20, 06:11 PM
I've been trying to get Glideport to work with adsb:myICAO too and have had no luck with it. I've sent a message to support a few days ago and no answer yet. Since I have adsb I really think this is the way to do it. I seem to never remember to turn on my phone app. Has anyone been able to use this feature.

Bruce

On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 1:57:54 PM UTC-7, John Gillis wrote:
> On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 12:18:08 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 6:41:50 AM UTC-7, AS wrote:
> > > Is there a trick for making the life tracker on the SSA website work? I tried to follow the Perry contest but was only able to get it to work on my iPhone but not on my laptop. Only got a blank screen there. I am using Chrome as a browser and Windoze 7 Professional.
> > >
> > > Uli
> > SPOT have changed their mapping service and formats, here is how to make a URL suitable for use at glideport.aero:-
> >
> > share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=09zinCBIVfVFEcsbxqddrCIFbMlqMPx xx
> > where the example starting with 09z is replaced by your own XML link. This has to be a separate link with a different title than your shared page. Here is how to get your XML number:-
> > 1) log in to findmespot.com
> > 2)Maps
> > 3)History mode
> > 4)Manage (little lines with check marks icon)
> > 5)Shared Views
> > 6) Add shared view
> > 7) Make a shared view with a different tile such as MYXMLFeed
> > 8) Home
> > 9) XML Feed
> > 10) View Details on MYXMLFeed
> > 11) The XML Feed ID should be displayed. Copy and paste it, append it to the text
> > share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=
> > and you are good to go.
> > Worked for me!!
> >
> > Sometimes a SPOT will work for years with glideport, then sudenly stop working. This is because if glideport ever has a communication difficulty with SPOT, it automatically deletes that particular XML feed as a safety precaution. The fix is to make another XML feed on your SPOT account, then register this new feed on glideport. There is a way to test your XML feed, simply go to this URL:-
> > https://api.findmespot.com/spot-main-web/consumer/rest-api/2.0/public/feed/09zinCBIVfVFEcsbxqddrCIFbMlqMPxxx/message.json
> > with your own XML Feed ID. If you get an error message then there is something wrong with the feed, contact SPOT. If you get position fixes but glideport does not display your SPOT, then make a new XML feed and register the new feed with SPOT. Each new feed typically lasts several years, and you can delete obsolete ones on the SPOT site.
> >
> > Duncan
> Has anyone gotten the ADSB tracker link to work? I've tried adsb:myICAO but it doesn't seem to work.

Ramy[_2_]
September 20th 20, 06:24 PM
As far as I know this feature was never implemented although the UI gives you this option.
I understand that there is currently no development and no support for glideport which is a shame since it begs integration with ADS-B and OGN.

Ramy

Nick Kennedy[_3_]
September 20th 20, 06:31 PM
Ramy
What is the advantage of OGN if you have a InReach or Spot Tracker thats tied into Glideport and whoever else you want to link to?
Nick
T

Ramy[_2_]
September 20th 20, 06:49 PM
OGN provides instantaneous detailed trace as long as you are within range (typically up to 50 miles but can be much further)
Inreach/spot are usually every 10 minutes and can often be delayed up to 1 hour.

Ramy

John Godfrey (QT)[_2_]
September 24th 20, 12:58 PM
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 1:31:51 PM UTC-4, Nick Kennedy wrote:
> Ramy
> What is the advantage of OGN if you have a InReach or Spot Tracker thats tied into Glideport and whoever else you want to link to?
> Nick
> T

I have been told by an informed and reliable source that OGN is on the cusp of releasing an upgrade that will enable SPOT and InReach data to be tracked. Unsure of exact timeframe but this could solve a lot of issues.

Dan Marotta
September 24th 20, 03:32 PM
I'm trying to understand this:

Spot and InReach are both tracked by satellites, right?Â* So how is it an
improvement to have OGN, which relies on local receivers and antennae,
to receive those two trackers?Â* There will certainly not be OGN nodes
set up across the Great Basin in sufficient quantity to keep track of
gliders operating there.Â* Heck, even around Moriarty, one must fly in
covered areas to be assured of being tracked by OGN assuming he's got
Flarm installed.Â* There are enough gliders here without Flarm to assume
that they're carrying one of the tracking devices...

On 9/24/2020 5:58 AM, John Godfrey (QT) wrote:
> On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 1:31:51 PM UTC-4, Nick Kennedy wrote:
>> Ramy
>> What is the advantage of OGN if you have a InReach or Spot Tracker thats tied into Glideport and whoever else you want to link to?
>> Nick
>> T
> I have been told by an informed and reliable source that OGN is on the cusp of releasing an upgrade that will enable SPOT and InReach data to be tracked. Unsure of exact timeframe but this could solve a lot of issues.

--
Dan, 5J

Steve Koerner
September 24th 20, 04:09 PM
The beauty of ADS-B and OGN coverage is the high bandwidth coverage compared to the 10 minute or so intervals employed by Spot and InReach. I do hope that the OGN folks follow through with that unified coverage plan. Importantly, I hope they also will incorporate ADS-b in that plan. I had a recent long flight over some very remote areas of northern Arizona and New Mexico and had continuous ADS-b highly detailed coverage the entire day excepting while low on initial climb out at Springerville and while low coming back to land at St Johns airport. That ADS-b coverage is now already there - there's no need to dot the wilderness with OGN receivers. ADS-b out in gliders is the new norm now; it's a pretty powerful safety feature. The long transmit intervals associated with satellite trackers are great to complement the low altitude drop-outs that happen with any ground antenna based OGN and ADS-b system. An integrated system with all modes working together is really highly desirable.

Dan Marotta
September 24th 20, 05:14 PM
Great answer, thanks!

All of my aircraft have ADS-B Out and In.Â* I can look at the flight
tracks of any of them on flightaware or flightradar24.

On 9/24/2020 9:09 AM, Steve Koerner wrote:
> The beauty of ADS-B and OGN coverage is the high bandwidth coverage compared to the 10 minute or so intervals employed by Spot and InReach. I do hope that the OGN folks follow through with that unified coverage plan. Importantly, I hope they also will incorporate ADS-b in that plan. I had a recent long flight over some very remote areas of northern Arizona and New Mexico and had continuous ADS-b highly detailed coverage the entire day excepting while low on initial climb out at Springerville and while low coming back to land at St Johns airport. That ADS-b coverage is now already there - there's no need to dot the wilderness with OGN receivers. ADS-b out in gliders is the new norm now; it's a pretty powerful safety feature. The long transmit intervals associated with satellite trackers are great to complement the low altitude drop-outs that happen with any ground antenna based OGN and ADS-b system. An integrated system with all modes working together is really highly desirable.

--
Dan, 5J

Steve Koerner
September 24th 20, 05:49 PM
Rereading what I wrote, the second to last sentence doesn't say what I really meant. I should have said:

It's the low altitude reliability of satellite trackers that makes them the perfect compliment to the high bandwidth of OGN and ADS-b which will drop out at low altitude and when landed.

There is also one more mode of tracking that can also work at high bandwidth - phone tracking. Like other ground based systems it suffers dropouts (more so than ADS-b in my experience with it). The beauty of the phone tracking app is that it doesn't require expensive avionics. The phone tracking system seems to have lost favor. I'm not sure if it's still supported.

Martin Gregorie[_6_]
September 24th 20, 08:17 PM
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:49:32 -0700, Steve Koerner wrote:

> There is also one more mode of tracking that can also work at high
> bandwidth - phone tracking. Like other ground based systems it suffers
> dropouts (more so than ADS-b in my experience with it). The beauty of
> the phone tracking app is that it doesn't require expensive avionics.
> The phone tracking system seems to have lost favor. I'm not sure if
> it's still supported.
>
Phones don't necessarily provide good coverage everywhere: I've sat over
the middle of Huntingdon, a market town 15 miles NW of Cambradge, at
3000-3200 ft and had exactly zero phone signal: The British telcos keep
coverage as near-pancake-shaped as possible because that reduces the
transmitter power bills and anyway they don't seem to think anybody needs
to use a phone above 500ft or so.

I expect its the same in Holland, Belgium and much of France.

Is this also the case in the flatter parts of the USA?


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

September 24th 20, 09:34 PM
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 3:17:58 PM UTC-4, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:49:32 -0700, Steve Koerner wrote:
>
> > There is also one more mode of tracking that can also work at high
> > bandwidth - phone tracking. Like other ground based systems it suffers
> > dropouts (more so than ADS-b in my experience with it). The beauty of
> > the phone tracking app is that it doesn't require expensive avionics.
> > The phone tracking system seems to have lost favor. I'm not sure if
> > it's still supported.
> >
> Phones don't necessarily provide good coverage everywhere: I've sat over
> the middle of Huntingdon, a market town 15 miles NW of Cambradge, at
> 3000-3200 ft and had exactly zero phone signal: The British telcos keep
> coverage as near-pancake-shaped as possible because that reduces the
> transmitter power bills and anyway they don't seem to think anybody needs
> to use a phone above 500ft or so.
>
> I expect its the same in Holland, Belgium and much of France.
>
> Is this also the case in the flatter parts of the USA?
>
>
> --
> Martin | martin at
> Gregorie | gregorie dot org

My recent experience is that yes the phone app (IGCdroid) still works, and reasonably well. If you look later at the flight log as received by Glideport.aero you will usually see the whole flight in detail, same as looking at the IGC file collected within the phone.

What is invisible (unless you watch the flight in real time on Glideport) is that the cell reception drops in and out. The acummulated data is sent once reception is restored. To see the dropouts I have used a macro text editor on the IGC files to leave only the last B record before each "LPLT::SND" line which denotes the app sending a data packet. The resulting IGC-like file can be looked at in software such as SeeYou and then you can see which areas did not have cell coverage in the air. I find that they are approximately repeated if you fly the same route again. And they differ when you fly in opposite directions along the same route (may be related to pilot's body blocking the signal in a certain direction).

Generally the dropouts are on the order of 10-15 minutes, but sometimes longer, up to an hour, in our area (VT-NH, wooded, hilly, somewhat populated relative to Nevada, with the population often complaining about spotty cell coverage). It's possible I'd get better coverage if I'd put the cellphone in a better location in the cockpit, I've had it several inches behind my back. (No carbon fiber in my glider.)

It's a lot of fun for spectating, and costs almost nothing, only requires a phone with data plan, not FLARM nor a transponder nor satellite-based devices (other than the phone's GPS reception). But for search and rescue the utility would be limited, since the last data packet may be sent many minutes, even an hour, before the crash or landout, as cell service is fairly likely to be lost once on the ground. I also carry a PLB, but would need to be able to activate it after the crash. Thus an OGN network, logging FLARM signals, if it were set up in our area (there is none so far), would be a useful complement.

Jeff[_12_]
September 25th 20, 08:03 AM
How to find an iPhone app similar to the app for Android phones, to work with Gliderport.aero?

John Godfrey (QT)[_2_]
September 25th 20, 01:32 PM
On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 10:32:58 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I'm trying to understand this:
>
> Spot and InReach are both tracked by satellites, right?Â* So how is it an
> improvement to have OGN, which relies on local receivers and antennae,
> to receive those two trackers?Â* There will certainly not be OGN nodes
> set up across the Great Basin in sufficient quantity to keep track of
> gliders operating there.Â* Heck, even around Moriarty, one must fly in
> covered areas to be assured of being tracked by OGN assuming he's got
> Flarm installed.Â* There are enough gliders here without Flarm to assume
> that they're carrying one of the tracking devices...
>
> On 9/24/2020 5:58 AM, John Godfrey (QT) wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 1:31:51 PM UTC-4, Nick Kennedy wrote:
> >> Ramy
> >> What is the advantage of OGN if you have a InReach or Spot Tracker thats tied into Glideport and whoever else you want to link to?
> >> Nick
> >> T
> > I have been told by an informed and reliable source that OGN is on the cusp of releasing an upgrade that will enable SPOT and InReach data to be tracked. Unsure of exact timeframe but this could solve a lot of issues.
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> Dan, 5J

Dan,
That is not how it will work. Just as the SSA tracker gets it data through feeds from the Garmin and Spot websites, so will OGN. There is no concept of needing a ground station that listens to the raw Spot, Garmin or Iridium transmissions.

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