Re: Cutting shirttails???

[Larry Dighera]

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:29:39 -0700, "C J Campbell"
> wrote in Message-Id:
>:

>Basically, cutting off the shirt tail marked you as the
>new guy and any stories or ceremonies that went along with it were simply
>there to add weight to the moment.

A glider student's first solo usually ends in a dousing with a bucket
of water. As gliders often relies on hot rising air to sustain them,
a refreshing drench is soon dry, and all in good fun and camaraderie.


--

Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

[Peter Duniho]

"Mark James Boyd" > wrote in message
...
> Now with more and more female pilots, this cold water dousing
> seems like an even better idea, I think...but cutting off the
> shirt is fine too ;-----)

Right, since that's definitely the way to encourage greater equality and to
have more women involved in aviation.

Interesting theory...

[JJ Sinclair]

The shirt tail cutting may have a military background. In the 30's, newly
commissioned cadets didn't always have the available cash to purchase epaulets
(shoulder boards) some would cut their shirt tails off and use the material to
fashion a set of home made epaulets. Cadets would get their commission and
their wings at the same time and cutting the tails off ones shirt may have
become synonymous with new beginnings, like soloing. This practice led to new
officers being called, "shave-tails" and other things.
JJ Sinclair

[root]

Peter Duniho wrote:
>
> "Mark James Boyd" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Now with more and more female pilots, this cold water dousing
> > seems like an even better idea, I think...but cutting off the
> > shirt is fine too ;-----)
>
> Right, since that's definitely the way to encourage greater equality and to
> have more women involved in aviation.
>
> Interesting theory...

Have a look at http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cab78/photos/gal3-5.jpg

[Doug]

Wet t-shirt contest... Good idea!!


"root" > wrote in message
...
> Peter Duniho wrote:
> >
> > "Mark James Boyd" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Now with more and more female pilots, this cold water dousing
> > > seems like an even better idea, I think...but cutting off the
> > > shirt is fine too ;-----)
> >
> > Right, since that's definitely the way to encourage greater equality and
to
> > have more women involved in aviation.
> >
> > Interesting theory...
>
> Have a look at http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cab78/photos/gal3-5.jpg

[soarski]

"Doug" > wrote in message news:<f3q3b.284068$o%2.131046@sccrnsc02>...
> Wet t-shirt contest... Good idea!!
>
>
> "root" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Peter Duniho wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mark James Boyd" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Now with more and more female pilots, this cold water dousing
> > > > seems like an even better idea, I think...but cutting off the
> > > > shirt is fine too ;-----)
> > >
> > > Right, since that's definitely the way to encourage greater equality and
> to
> > > have more women involved in aviation.
> > >
> > > Interesting theory...
> >
> > Have a look at http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cab78/photos/gal3-5.jpg





Nice Pic! Nice hangar!

Now, I have an interesting angle and question:

I am emailing with a new German Soaring Student. She is 16 years old
and is coming up for her first solo soon.

Almost anywhere in Germany the custom is that you have to bend over
and you get spanked by all. Buddy students and Flight Instructor.

The little Lady does not like the idea, she looks at that custom a
little different than most. The club does not seem to want to change
the custom and the Student is not very happy.

How do the Ladies and Gentlemen out there see this? Possibly she
should bite the bullet and forget about the feelings about touching
below the wasteline?
This once?

I think so!

[John Morgan]

Does this club have "one day" memberships? When is her solo?
--
bumper >
"Dare to be different . . . circle in sink."
to reply, the last half is right to left

"soarski" > wrote in message
om...
> "Doug" > wrote in message
news:<f3q3b.284068$o%2.131046@sccrnsc02>...
> > Wet t-shirt contest... Good idea!!
> >
> >
> > "root" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Peter Duniho wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Mark James Boyd" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Now with more and more female pilots, this cold water dousing
> > > > > seems like an even better idea, I think...but cutting off the
> > > > > shirt is fine too ;-----)
> > > >
> > > > Right, since that's definitely the way to encourage greater equality
and
> > to
> > > > have more women involved in aviation.
> > > >
> > > > Interesting theory...
> > >
> > > Have a look at http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cab78/photos/gal3-5.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> Nice Pic! Nice hangar!
>
> Now, I have an interesting angle and question:
>
> I am emailing with a new German Soaring Student. She is 16 years old
> and is coming up for her first solo soon.
>
> Almost anywhere in Germany the custom is that you have to bend over
> and you get spanked by all. Buddy students and Flight Instructor.
>
> The little Lady does not like the idea, she looks at that custom a
> little different than most. The club does not seem to want to change
> the custom and the Student is not very happy.
>
> How do the Ladies and Gentlemen out there see this? Possibly she
> should bite the bullet and forget about the feelings about touching
> below the wasteline?
> This once?
>
> I think so!


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[Roy]

I'll join too !



"John Morgan" > wrote in message
...
> Does this club have "one day" memberships? When is her solo?
> --
> bumper >
> "Dare to be different . . . circle in sink."
> to reply, the last half is right to left
>
> "soarski" > wrote in message
> om...
> > "Doug" > wrote in message
> news:<f3q3b.284068$o%2.131046@sccrnsc02>...
> > > Wet t-shirt contest... Good idea!!
> > >
> > >
> > > "root" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Peter Duniho wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mark James Boyd" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Now with more and more female pilots, this cold water dousing
> > > > > > seems like an even better idea, I think...but cutting off the
> > > > > > shirt is fine too ;-----)
> > > > >
> > > > > Right, since that's definitely the way to encourage greater
equality
> and
> > > to
> > > > > have more women involved in aviation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Interesting theory...
> > > >
> > > > Have a look at http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cab78/photos/gal3-5.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nice Pic! Nice hangar!
> >
> > Now, I have an interesting angle and question:
> >
> > I am emailing with a new German Soaring Student. She is 16 years old
> > and is coming up for her first solo soon.
> >
> > Almost anywhere in Germany the custom is that you have to bend over
> > and you get spanked by all. Buddy students and Flight Instructor.
> >
> > The little Lady does not like the idea, she looks at that custom a
> > little different than most. The club does not seem to want to change
> > the custom and the Student is not very happy.
> >
> > How do the Ladies and Gentlemen out there see this? Possibly she
> > should bite the bullet and forget about the feelings about touching
> > below the wasteline?
> > This once?
> >
> > I think so!
>
>
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[Mike Lindsay]

In article <cb676098.03082818
>
>Nice Pic! Nice hangar!
>
>Now, I have an interesting angle and question:
>
>I am emailing with a new German Soaring Student. She is 16 years old
>and is coming up for her first solo soon.
>
>Almost anywhere in Germany the custom is that you have to bend over
>and you get spanked by all. Buddy students and Flight Instructor.
>
>The little Lady does not like the idea, she looks at that custom a
>little different than most. The club does not seem to want to change
>the custom and the Student is not very happy.
>
>How do the Ladies and Gentlemen out there see this? Possibly she
>should bite the bullet and forget about the feelings about touching
>below the wasteline?
>This once?
>
>I think so!

If she isn't happy with the idea she should say so. Loudly and often and
to everyone concerned.

But it would be an unusual 16 year old to have enough confidence to do
this.

If the other club members can't accept this I'd advise her to do her
first solo in a country where they don't have this custom.
--
Mike Lindsay

[Martin Gregorie]

On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 07:49:10 +0100, Mike Lindsay
> wrote:

>In article <cb676098.03082818
>>
>>Nice Pic! Nice hangar!
>>
>>Now, I have an interesting angle and question:
>>
>>I am emailing with a new German Soaring Student. She is 16 years old
>>and is coming up for her first solo soon.
>>
>>Almost anywhere in Germany the custom is that you have to bend over
>>and you get spanked by all. Buddy students and Flight Instructor.
>>
>>The little Lady does not like the idea, she looks at that custom a
>>little different than most. The club does not seem to want to change
>>the custom and the Student is not very happy.
>>
>>How do the Ladies and Gentlemen out there see this? Possibly she
>>should bite the bullet and forget about the feelings about touching
>>below the wasteline?
>>This once?
>>
>>I think so!
>
>If she isn't happy with the idea she should say so. Loudly and often and
>to everyone concerned.
>
>But it would be an unusual 16 year old to have enough confidence to do
>this.
>
>If the other club members can't accept this I'd advise her to do her
>first solo in a country where they don't have this custom.

I was turned up on the Wasserkuppe on the day a new pilot soloed and
got spanked (one pat) by all present. It was explained to me that this
was to remind the newly fledged that a glider pilot needs a sensitive
backside to interpret what his glider is telling him.

HTH

PS: I'm just back from another first - my first competition. Another
club mate and I flew the club's Pegase 90 in the Gransden Regionals
and shared flying and retrieval duties, had a great time and learnt a
huge amount about xc. I'm hooked!

--
martin@ : Martin Gregorie
gregorie : Harlow, UK
demon :
co : Zappa fan & glider pilot
uk :

[Tim]

Martin Gregorie >s comments read:

>PS: I'm just back from another first - my first competition. Another
>club mate and I flew the club's Pegase 90 in the Gransden Regionals
>and shared flying and retrieval duties, had a great time and learnt a
>huge amount about xc. I'm hooked!

Me too - one question - are "they" going to publish the igc files ?
--
Tim - ASW20CL "20"

[Martin Gregorie]

On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 13:09:56 +0100, Tim
> wrote:

>Martin Gregorie >s comments read:
>
>>PS: I'm just back from another first - my first competition. Another
>>club mate and I flew the club's Pegase 90 in the Gransden Regionals
>>and shared flying and retrieval duties, had a great time and learnt a
>>huge amount about xc. I'm hooked!
>
>Me too - one question - are "they" going to publish the igc files ?

Bob Pursey told me they would be on the website with the rest of the
results at the start of the Regionals so I didn't keep my traces apart
from day 8, which is still in my logger. I'll chase this one up.


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