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Mark James Boyd
August 27th 03, 06:42 PM
>http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/f.braaksma/
>
>or as my coworker said "don't do this to your daddy's 737".

OK, so good opportunity for me to discuss hail...

So the FAA books recommend flying at least 20NM away from isolated
thunderstorms, under the concept, I assume, that hail sucked
way up into the flight levels (40-50 thousand feet or higher)
can be blown by 200+ knot winds aloft and fall 20NM away.

This means it takes about 6 minutes for the hail to fall from
FL600 (OK, just guessing here).

But it seems VERY clear that this is not random. If the
wind is blowing from the West or South consistently at
all altitudes, then if you fly West and South of that
particular thunderstorm, its hail will not be in your path.

So the key to avoiding hail seems to be knowing the path
the hail will take at the altitudes where it exits the
cumulonimbus.

This isn't idle wondering. I'm making a flight tonight from
WVI to Burning Man - Black Rock City near Reno, CA. There's
a 20% chance of isolated thunderstorms, and I'm working
on a course to best avoid the possibility of flying
170+ kts through hail. There's clearly a better and worse
way to do this, and flying "upwind" of isolated CB seems
to be better. Note that I mean "upwind" in the sense
of the wind where the hail is, not upwind at my chosen
flight altitude...

chris
August 28th 03, 01:46 AM
(Bob Mowry) wrote in message >...
> http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/f.braaksma/
>
> -bob

It is intersting how the leading edges of the tail feathers are in
worse shape than the wing, I suppose it is because the metal is
thinner?

Chris

Al
August 29th 03, 03:51 PM
No wonder you are getting lost you think Reno is in California
Its in Nevada you know!!

And its Gerlach the town on the edge of Black Rock desert that too is in
Nevada.

How about a trip to San Francisco Utah? or Black Rock Desert Idaho...LOL

Al

> This isn't idle wondering. I'm making a flight tonight from
> WVI to Burning Man - Black Rock City near Reno, CA. There's
> a 20% chance of isolated thunderstorms, and I'm working
>

Janusz Kesik
August 29th 03, 06:52 PM
Errr.... Al, Gerlach is actually the highest peak of the Tatra mountain =
range, on the border of Poland and Slovakia. :)

Regards,

Janusz.


> And its Gerlach the town on the edge of Black Rock desert that too is =
in
> Nevada.

Janusz Kesik
August 29th 03, 06:53 PM
Despite of that I still say that cloud flying is a really a huge bucket =
of fun. :)

JK

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