Fly Baby Plans Off the Market

[Ron Wanttaja]

Due to an Estate dispute, marketing of the plans for the Bowers Fly Baby
has stopped. It is unknown how long they'll be off the market. Or that
matter, whether they'll ever return.

If you have a set of plans you no longer need, I can help put you in
contact with potential buyers. Also, EAA SPORT AVIATION magazine published
a fourteen-part series on building the Fly Baby in 1963-1964. These
articles are available reprints from the EAA, and are also contained in the
CD-ROM of SPORT AVIATION back issues.

The instructions aren't the step-by-step type, and the drawings aren't
full-sized, but full-sized CAD layouts for steel parts can be found at:

http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/index.html#layouts

....and technical assistance is available from folks on the Fly Baby mailing
list. There were some slight dimensional changes since the original SPORT
AVIATION article, and we're trying to gin up an 'errata' sheet.

The next issue of KITPLANES has an article by myself that includes an
address for ordering. Unfortunately, the pulling of the plans sales came
too late to remove the address from the article.

Ron Wanttaja

[FlyBabyBuilder]

Interesting manner they have of handling the "dispute" - I ordered a set of
plans back in February of this year and heard nothing until May. I received
a letter apologizing for the delay in early May and the plans shortly
thereafter. The "unusual" part about it all... the February check still
hasn't cleared the bank.

[jls]

<FlyBabyBuilder> wrote in message ...
> Interesting manner they have of handling the "dispute" - I ordered a set
of
> plans back in February of this year and heard nothing until May. I
received
> a letter apologizing for the delay in early May and the plans shortly
> thereafter. The "unusual" part about it all... the February check still
> hasn't cleared the bank.

The executor of the estate turned the check over to the attorney, who in
turn turned it over to an incompetent grunt who fancies himself a paralegal,
who then stuck it in the file and it is now lost in the fog of
litigiousness.

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 16:07:53 -0400, " jls" > wrote:

>
><FlyBabyBuilder> wrote in message ...
>> Interesting manner they have of handling the "dispute" - I ordered a set
>of
>> plans back in February of this year and heard nothing until May. I
>received
>> a letter apologizing for the delay in early May and the plans shortly
>> thereafter. The "unusual" part about it all... the February check still
>> hasn't cleared the bank.
>
>The executor of the estate turned the check over to the attorney, who in
>turn turned it over to an incompetent grunt who fancies himself a paralegal,
>who then stuck it in the file and it is now lost in the fog of
>litigiousness.

Ummm... well, that certainly differs from the version *I* heard.

Ron Wanttaja

[jls]

"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 16:07:53 -0400, " jls" > wrote:
>
> >
> ><FlyBabyBuilder> wrote in message
...
> >> Interesting manner they have of handling the "dispute" - I ordered a
set
> >of
> >> plans back in February of this year and heard nothing until May. I
> >received
> >> a letter apologizing for the delay in early May and the plans shortly
> >> thereafter. The "unusual" part about it all... the February check
still
> >> hasn't cleared the bank.
> >
> >The executor of the estate turned the check over to the attorney, who in
> >turn turned it over to an incompetent grunt who fancies himself a
paralegal,
> >who then stuck it in the file and it is now lost in the fog of
> >litigiousness.
>
> Ummm... well, that certainly differs from the version *I* heard.
>
> Ron Wanttaja
>

Uhhuh, well, that's what I get for theorizing, Mr. Consigliero Wanttaja.
Which reminds me. I found one of your old posts from the nineties about
Plasti-Kote high-temperature paint, finally located some in flat black,
painted the T-Craft pipes, and am thoroughly sold on the stuff.

On the subject of an estate, the attorney whined to the clerk that I was
holding him up from closing an overdue estate because I had not provided him
with indispensable papers. I called my daughter and accused her of being
slack, whereupon she called the attorney, finally got his grunt runner on
the phone, and voila, there were the papers already deeply tucked into his
grungy file.

Sorry to go so far off-topic here, but it seems the scarcity of Fly Baby
plans will probably resolve soon, especially if your organization acquires
the rights to them while the family squabbles.

I was going to get to fly one this summer and see what all the hoopla is
about, but it has become a hangar dog because the owner won't get off his
duff and buy the parts we need to overhaul the little A-65.

Or maybe his wife has a veto. I had a vetoing wife once, so divorced her
in the 80's.

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 18:37:27 -0400, " jls" > wrote:

>
>"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Ummm... well, that certainly differs from the version *I* heard.
>
>Uhhuh, well, that's what I get for theorizing, Mr. Consigliero Wanttaja.

Oh, OK, sorry for being a bit thick. It's just that the situation is so
bizarre, your scenario would be an improvement. IIRC, you're a member of
the Fly Baby list...check out message 3850.

For everyone else, the lesson is: If you want things to happen after you
die, put them in a will.

Ron Wanttaja

[jls]

"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 18:37:27 -0400, " jls" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >> Ummm... well, that certainly differs from the version *I* heard.
> >
> >Uhhuh, well, that's what I get for theorizing, Mr. Consigliero Wanttaja.
>
> Oh, OK, sorry for being a bit thick. It's just that the situation is so
> bizarre, your scenario would be an improvement. IIRC, you're a member of
> the Fly Baby list...check out message 3850.
>
> For everyone else, the lesson is: If you want things to happen after you
> die, put them in a will.
>
> Ron Wanttaja

[Roger Halstead]

On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 00:05:00 GMT, Ron Wanttaja >
wrote:

>On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 18:37:27 -0400, " jls" > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>> Ummm... well, that certainly differs from the version *I* heard.
>>
>>Uhhuh, well, that's what I get for theorizing, Mr. Consigliero Wanttaja.
>
>Oh, OK, sorry for being a bit thick. It's just that the situation is so
>bizarre, your scenario would be an improvement. IIRC, you're a member of
>the Fly Baby list...check out message 3850.
>
>For everyone else, the lesson is: If you want things to happen after you
>die, put them in a will.

We even set up a trust which owns darn near everything so we took care
of the distribution of everything including a will. Of course the
trust controls everything . (except the Debonair).. I think they call
that control from beyond the grave. <:-))

Unfortunately you can only do that for one generation, otherwise we
could set the parameters for inheritance for the next few centuries
and just dole out the earnings...if there is anything left to earn
anything. ....

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


>
>Ron Wanttaja

[Blueskies]

I was reading an interesting article the other day about the question of who owns the data in the computer after you
die. Many of us have lots of things like pictures and financial records locked up in the box, and survivors don't know
about it or don't know how to get at it. Be sure to include instructions for this also...

--
Dan D.
http://www.ameritech.net/users/ddevillers/start.html


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"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 18:37:27 -0400, " jls" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >> Ummm... well, that certainly differs from the version *I* heard.
> >
> >Uhhuh, well, that's what I get for theorizing, Mr. Consigliero Wanttaja.
>
> Oh, OK, sorry for being a bit thick. It's just that the situation is so
> bizarre, your scenario would be an improvement. IIRC, you're a member of
> the Fly Baby list...check out message 3850.
>
> For everyone else, the lesson is: If you want things to happen after you
> die, put them in a will.
>
> Ron Wanttaja

[jls]

"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 18:37:27 -0400, " jls" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >> Ummm... well, that certainly differs from the version *I* heard.
> >
> >Uhhuh, well, that's what I get for theorizing, Mr. Consigliero Wanttaja.
>
> Oh, OK, sorry for being a bit thick. It's just that the situation is so
> bizarre, your scenario would be an improvement. IIRC, you're a member of
> the Fly Baby list...check out message 3850.
>
> For everyone else, the lesson is: If you want things to happen after you
> die, put them in a will.
>
> Ron Wanttaja

I plugged in "intestate succession" and intestacy and personalty and
personal property and washington state into google and didn't find much.
However, it looks like Washington has an easy procedure for administration
of an estate where the deceased dies without a will. The clerk appoints an
administrator and that apparently has been done.

This law would probably be what the administrator (an executor must have a
will) uses to distribute the personal property:
http://www.leg.wa.gov/RCW/index.cfm?section=11.04.015&fuseaction=section

Here are Washington's revised statutes:

http://www.leg.wa.gov/rcw/index.cfm

I notice that Title 17 applies to such characters as Shankland and
Wischmeyer.
:)