Libelle 301 For Sale - Junior Owner Wanted

[Kevin Christner]

I am downsizing my glider fleet and am looking to sell my Libelle 301. I'm willing to do an interesting deal for the right junior. I was lucky growing up that my parents had the resources to buy me a series of gliders, but I realize that many (most) don't have this luxury. It's time to figure out how to pay it forward.

The deal is I'll sell the glider to the right junior (PPG and must have an experienced mentor) no money down plus a note of $100/mo as a "rental" sort of payment. If the junior is no longer actively using the glider then we'll work to find another one and I'll facilitate a transfer of the remaining note balance. Once the glider is completely paid off I'll ask that it be passed down $1 at a time. I know there is no way to truly make sure this happens, but its the soaring world, and I've never seen anyone not do the right thing.

Here is a dropbox with some pictures:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7o1fvvjexxjifvj/AACFo38dS9znK-7W2D2Ql2wNa?dl=0

Gelcoat ain't great (5/10 - I'm sure some sanding, buffing and polishing would greatly improve the appearance) but its well instrumented for XC and contest flying (S10, LX7007, Colibri II and Oudie) and the trailer works and tows very easily.

Contact away. Hopefully this works out.

2C

[Craig Funston]

On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 11:52:09 AM UTC-7, Kevin Christner wrote:
> I am downsizing my glider fleet and am looking to sell my Libelle 301. I'm willing to do an interesting deal for the right junior. I was lucky growing up that my parents had the resources to buy me a series of gliders, but I realize that many (most) don't have this luxury. It's time to figure out how to pay it forward.
>
> The deal is I'll sell the glider to the right junior (PPG and must have an experienced mentor) no money down plus a note of $100/mo as a "rental" sort of payment. If the junior is no longer actively using the glider then we'll work to find another one and I'll facilitate a transfer of the remaining note balance. Once the glider is completely paid off I'll ask that it be passed down $1 at a time. I know there is no way to truly make sure this happens, but its the soaring world, and I've never seen anyone not do the right thing.
>
> Here is a dropbox with some pictures:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7o1fvvjexxjifvj/AACFo38dS9znK-7W2D2Ql2wNa?dl=0
>
> Gelcoat ain't great (5/10 - I'm sure some sanding, buffing and polishing would greatly improve the appearance) but its well instrumented for XC and contest flying (S10, LX7007, Colibri II and Oudie) and the trailer works and tows very easily.
>
> Contact away. Hopefully this works out.
>
> 2C

Kevin, great offer. Kudos for paying it forward. Another option might be donation (or partial donation) to a soaring club with suitable emphasis on developing youngpilots. If the club has 501 c3 status you can claim a tax deduction.

Best,
Craig

[Citrus Soaring Club]

Awesome idea!!

Please contact me I have some great juniors in mind. I'm in the process of developing a youth program with a focus on contest flying.

Office (at) citrussoaringclub dot com

Thanks

[Kevin Christner]

>
> Kevin, great offer. Kudos for paying it forward. Another option might be donation (or partial donation) to a soaring club with suitable emphasis on developing youngpilots. If the club has 501 c3 status you can claim a tax deduction.
>
> Best,
> Craig

Thanks Craig. I did consider this but was concerned it would end up in the middle of club politics and not move if no juniors were around to fly it because "we will have someone soon." I have more faith in a current owner doing the right thing.

2C

[Craig Funston]

On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 12:45:41 PM UTC-7, Kevin Christner wrote:
> >
> > Kevin, great offer. Kudos for paying it forward. Another option might be donation (or partial donation) to a soaring club with suitable emphasis on developing youngpilots. If the club has 501 c3 status you can claim a tax deduction.
> >
> > Best,
> > Craig
>
> Thanks Craig. I did consider this but was concerned it would end up in the middle of club politics and not move if no juniors were around to fly it because "we will have someone soon." I have more faith in a current owner doing the right thing.
>
> 2C

Understood Kevin. It would have to be an organization with a proven track record. I was amazed (impressed) when a friend in Germany donated a brand new glider to his club. It's my understanding this type of long term support by older members isn't unusual in European clubs. Hoping we'll catch up some day (or at least try).

Cheers

[[email protected]]

Kevin, I am a junior at the mid Atlantic soaring association. I'm 19, and am at a frustrating point in soaring. I am ready to go cross country and really hone in on my skills as a glider pilot, but am limited to club gliders. I am interested. Please email me.
James Joao

240-651-4360

[Kevin Christner]

All,

I've gotten quite the response to this. A few thoughts:

Obviously there are many deserving juniors, and only one (well maybe more than one... see below) glider "for sale" at the moment. We all now of the glider that hasn't come out of the trailer in ten years. I'd like folks to think about contacting those owners, explaining the "program" to them and seeing if we can't come up with a few more gliders!

Secondly, I have a second glider I'd be willing to part with, but this one needs some work and money to be ready. I'm not particularly interested in investing more myself, but if there were some folks out there who would be willing to make some small donations of either money or equipment (newer vario and one man rigger would be particularly useful) please contact me.

Best,

2C

On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 2:52:09 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote:
> I am downsizing my glider fleet and am looking to sell my Libelle 301. I'm willing to do an interesting deal for the right junior. I was lucky growing up that my parents had the resources to buy me a series of gliders, but I realize that many (most) don't have this luxury. It's time to figure out how to pay it forward.
>
> The deal is I'll sell the glider to the right junior (PPG and must have an experienced mentor) no money down plus a note of $100/mo as a "rental" sort of payment. If the junior is no longer actively using the glider then we'll work to find another one and I'll facilitate a transfer of the remaining note balance. Once the glider is completely paid off I'll ask that it be passed down $1 at a time. I know there is no way to truly make sure this happens, but its the soaring world, and I've never seen anyone not do the right thing.
>
> Here is a dropbox with some pictures:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7o1fvvjexxjifvj/AACFo38dS9znK-7W2D2Ql2wNa?dl=0
>
> Gelcoat ain't great (5/10 - I'm sure some sanding, buffing and polishing would greatly improve the appearance) but its well instrumented for XC and contest flying (S10, LX7007, Colibri II and Oudie) and the trailer works and tows very easily.
>
> Contact away. Hopefully this works out.
>
> 2C

[Kevin Christner]

Also needed: at least one and potentially two parachutes.

On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 11:50:02 AM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote:
> All,
>
> I've gotten quite the response to this. A few thoughts:
>
> Obviously there are many deserving juniors, and only one (well maybe more than one... see below) glider "for sale" at the moment. We all now of the glider that hasn't come out of the trailer in ten years. I'd like folks to think about contacting those owners, explaining the "program" to them and seeing if we can't come up with a few more gliders!
>
> Secondly, I have a second glider I'd be willing to part with, but this one needs some work and money to be ready. I'm not particularly interested in investing more myself, but if there were some folks out there who would be willing to make some small donations of either money or equipment (newer vario and one man rigger would be particularly useful) please contact me.
>
> Best,
>
> 2C
>
> On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 2:52:09 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote:
> > I am downsizing my glider fleet and am looking to sell my Libelle 301. I'm willing to do an interesting deal for the right junior. I was lucky growing up that my parents had the resources to buy me a series of gliders, but I realize that many (most) don't have this luxury. It's time to figure out how to pay it forward.
> >
> > The deal is I'll sell the glider to the right junior (PPG and must have an experienced mentor) no money down plus a note of $100/mo as a "rental" sort of payment. If the junior is no longer actively using the glider then we'll work to find another one and I'll facilitate a transfer of the remaining note balance. Once the glider is completely paid off I'll ask that it be passed down $1 at a time. I know there is no way to truly make sure this happens, but its the soaring world, and I've never seen anyone not do the right thing.
> >
> > Here is a dropbox with some pictures:
> >
> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7o1fvvjexxjifvj/AACFo38dS9znK-7W2D2Ql2wNa?dl=0
> >
> > Gelcoat ain't great (5/10 - I'm sure some sanding, buffing and polishing would greatly improve the appearance) but its well instrumented for XC and contest flying (S10, LX7007, Colibri II and Oudie) and the trailer works and tows very easily.
> >
> > Contact away. Hopefully this works out.
> >
> > 2C

[Gary Guinn]

Kevin, I'd be willing on a parachute...

call if this is still an open item
Gary
918-704-0277
Tulsa

On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 10:53:15 AM UTC-5, Kevin Christner wrote:
> Also needed: at least one and potentially two parachutes.
>
> On Sunday, October 2, 2016 at 11:50:02 AM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I've gotten quite the response to this. A few thoughts:
> >
> > Obviously there are many deserving juniors, and only one (well maybe more than one... see below) glider "for sale" at the moment. We all now of the glider that hasn't come out of the trailer in ten years. I'd like folks to think about contacting those owners, explaining the "program" to them and seeing if we can't come up with a few more gliders!
> >
> > Secondly, I have a second glider I'd be willing to part with, but this one needs some work and money to be ready. I'm not particularly interested in investing more myself, but if there were some folks out there who would be willing to make some small donations of either money or equipment (newer vario and one man rigger would be particularly useful) please contact me.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > 2C
> >
> > On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 2:52:09 PM UTC-4, Kevin Christner wrote:
> > > I am downsizing my glider fleet and am looking to sell my Libelle 301.. I'm willing to do an interesting deal for the right junior. I was lucky growing up that my parents had the resources to buy me a series of gliders, but I realize that many (most) don't have this luxury. It's time to figure out how to pay it forward.
> > >
> > > The deal is I'll sell the glider to the right junior (PPG and must have an experienced mentor) no money down plus a note of $100/mo as a "rental" sort of payment. If the junior is no longer actively using the glider then we'll work to find another one and I'll facilitate a transfer of the remaining note balance. Once the glider is completely paid off I'll ask that it be passed down $1 at a time. I know there is no way to truly make sure this happens, but its the soaring world, and I've never seen anyone not do the right thing.
> > >
> > > Here is a dropbox with some pictures:
> > >
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7o1fvvjexxjifvj/AACFo38dS9znK-7W2D2Ql2wNa?dl=0
> > >
> > > Gelcoat ain't great (5/10 - I'm sure some sanding, buffing and polishing would greatly improve the appearance) but its well instrumented for XC and contest flying (S10, LX7007, Colibri II and Oudie) and the trailer works and tows very easily.
> > >
> > > Contact away. Hopefully this works out.
> > >
> > > 2C

[[email protected]]

Hi Kevin my name is Wyll Soll and I am a junior glider pilot out of San Luis Obispo. My guess is that this glider has already moved on to a new owner, but I figured I would post just in case. I am a part of a A gliding club of students at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo ( http://akslo.com ). We fly out of Avenal CA and promote aviation and soaring to young people both at Cal Poly and in the surrounding community. A few other members of the club and I are looking to purchase a glider and this seemed like a very good fit for what you were looking for. Any way if it is still available or if you have a lead on other inexpensive gliders that could be a good option for new up an coming junior pilots let me know. My email is

Thanks
Wyll Soll

[FreeFlight107]

I also have a Libelle 301 #107 that I'd like to part with as I'm no longer using it.
It's in very good condition, but the gel coat has some blems in from old repairs, etc.
It has Tasman vario, Becker Radio, Terra Transponder, one man rigger, gear warning system. It needs for XC, Flight Computer/moving map, ie Oudie, etc, Ox bottle & regulator, parachute.

Pics & details at W&W http://wingsandwheels.com/classifieds/?m=glider
page 3 on Cancelled Not Renewed section.

Wyll Soll has the right idea, if a group were to buy this Libelle at a greatly reduced price, it would make a good entry to XC for several juniors.

Contact me at wayne at walker dot org or see me at the SSA Conv. at the 1-26 Booth.

I would really like to pass this glider on to someone that would appreciate it as a first XC ship to learn and enjoy.

Wayne

[Kevin Christner]

Hi Wyll,

Unfortunately (or fortunately since it found a good home) this glider was sold last year.

Its good that this thread got bumped, because it reminded me of the tens (or hundreds) of gliders in the US that haven't been out of their trailer in many years.

I'd challenge those of you retiring from soaring to consider doing what I did. Selling at a discount for a 0% note has worked out great for me. Get the parents involved and the checks show up!

Otherwise, if you have a soaring organization that is a 501(c)(3), you can donate the glider for a tax deduction. Anyone interested in doing this that can't find an appraiser I have one willing to do these gratis for such donations, so don't hesitate to reach out.

Best,

Kevin

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 12:58:24 PM UTC-5, Wyll Surf Air wrote:
> Hi Kevin my name is Wyll Soll and I am a junior glider pilot out of San Luis Obispo. My guess is that this glider has already moved on to a new owner, but I figured I would post just in case. I am a part of a A gliding club of students at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo ( http://akslo.com ). We fly out of Avenal CA and promote aviation and soaring to young people both at Cal Poly and in the surrounding community. A few other members of the club and I are looking to purchase a glider and this seemed like a very good fit for what you were looking for. Any way if it is still available or if you have a lead on other inexpensive gliders that could be a good option for new up an coming junior pilots let me know. My email is
>
> Thanks
> Wyll Soll

[Wyll Surf Air]

Thanks Kevin,
No worries that your glider was already sold. Also I forgot to mention it but out Akaflieg is a 501(c)(3) so if someone is interested in making a donation we are definitely interested. Any way thanks for your support and I'm glad the glider went to someone who will use and enjoy it.
Wyll Soll

[Bob Kuykendall]

On Sunday, February 25, 2018 at 9:58:24 AM UTC-8, Wyll Surf Air wrote:
> Hi Kevin my name is Wyll Soll and I am a junior glider pilot out of San Luis Obispo...

You folks should come up to Arnold for a build session.

--Bob K.

[Wyll Surf Air]

Hi Bob I'm not sure what you are alluding to. Could you elaborate?

[Darryl Ramm]

A build session for a HP24 glider...

[Wyll Surf Air]

Oh that sounds interesting. What are the details. When and where is it? I'm sure some of our members would enjoy learning more about how glass sail plans are built.

[Bob Kuykendall]

On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 8:15:34 AM UTC-8, Wyll Surf Air wrote:
> Oh that sounds interesting. What are the details. When and where is it? I'm sure some of our members would enjoy learning more about how glass sail plans are built.

We only a tiny bit of fiberglass work. Mostly carbon fiber. Regular Akaflieg sessions:

https://hpaircraftblog.wordpress.com/akafliegs/

--Bob K.

[Wyll Surf Air]

Oh wow that sounds like an awesome opportunity that many of our members would be interested in. I am very interested to get more information; I just contacted you through the website but you are also welcome to email me at wsoll at calpoly.edu

On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 12:06:55 PM UTC-8, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 8:15:34 AM UTC-8, Wyll Surf Air wrote:
> > Oh that sounds interesting. What are the details. When and where is it? I'm sure some of our members would enjoy learning more about how glass sail plans are built.
>
> We only a tiny bit of fiberglass work. Mostly carbon fiber. Regular Akaflieg sessions:
>
> https://hpaircraftblog.wordpress.com/akafliegs/
>
> --Bob K.