NOVEMBER ISSUE - Gliding International

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GLIDING INTERNATIONAL
ISSUE NOVEMBER 2016


The November 2016 issue will go in the mail next week and should be with subscribers by November 1.

We must be doing something right as we are experiencing a big lift in circulation, materially aided by our Digital version. The hundreds that have subscribed to the Digital issue will get their November copy in their email box on November 1. The November issue is another great 64 page all colour issue.

• It is time gliding had a good hard look at the Olympics and reintroduce our case for participation. This issue traces the history of gliding’s involvement in the Olympics as far back as 1936. It provides readers with a chance to become informed on gliding’s Olympic history. As an aside to this, comes the news from Germany that one of the country’s biggest clubs has lost 20% of their members over the last six months, a state of affairs not restricted to the Germans. Membership decline must be addressed by the IGC and with more than just the cursory lip service they have given the problem in the past. Olympic participation must be a move in the right direction.

• Aldo Cernezzi, our European correspondent flew the Spanish Nationals in the Pyrenees. Thermalling close to Vultures is really ‘something’, especially soaring in this under-rated historical soaring site in Europe. A great place for a gliding holiday.

• There has been eight fatal gliding accidents in past six weeks. We spend considerable time documenting accidents in most countries with a view to educating the sport on some of its hazards. And we came across the hangar fire that demolished six (6) sailplanes in one go. Read the details!

• Why is the DG1001 two seat trainer the choice of a number of Airforce training organisations. We have a good look at what DG offers and tell our readers that they are good buy. (USA 19, Indonesia 6, Brazil 10, Australia 11).
These upgradable trainers must be a first on any club’s shopping list.

• Little known is the story about the gliders built in Poland with the aid of concrete in the 1960s. A fascinating story.

• Sadly, we report the death of Fred Weinholtz in Germany. Known to thousands world wide, this gliding administrator was the first to publish a book on modern soaring. His inexpensive book, “The Theory of Modern Cross Country Gliding”, was translated for and published in English by our editor. Some 30,000 copies (German and English editions) were sold. There are plans afoot to have Fred’s text updated and the seventh edition of the book out next year. Fred and John were lifetime friends. - A Gliding International project!

• Aldo Cernezzi has flown the first two seat sustainer in series production, the ASG 32Mi from Schleicher. He reports very favourably. (Readers will love our new art work).

• Electric Self Launchers are getting closer and closer. We keep an eye out on all the new battery technology, the secret to this possibility.

• We discovered in the last two months that the New York Herald actually sent a reporter to Germany in 1894 to interview Otto Lilienthal. We have published the interview in full (unedited) complete with the Herald’s sketches of what the reporter saw happening in Germany.

• NASA is putting its money where its mouth is. They are undertaking millions of dollars of research into advanced aviation. We report on six of their projects.

• All this plus 30 other stories that will educate and inform.

As we have said before - our best issue yet!

We hope you will join us.
JOHN ROAKE
EDITOR.

NEW (or RENEWING) SUBSCRIBERS CAN EASILY EFFECT A SUBSCRIPTION BY GOING TO OUR WEB PAGE – For printed or Digital issue use . . . . www.glidinginternational.com

[Branko Stojkovic]

Gliding International is a great magazine, digital issue included. Keep up the good work!

Branko

[WaltWX[_2_]]

Question...

On what devices and with what format can one read the Digital Edition? For example... does it use an app for Android or IOS (Ipad) devices? Can one download a pdf version? Must one read the Digital Edition through a browser pointing to a web site?

Thanks...

Walt Rogers WX

[Branko Stojkovic]

Walt,

I don't think John monitors this thread, so I'll try to answer. You can view the digital edition in a browser, or you can download a pdf version.

The only downside of the digital version is that the photos come out in a relatively low resolution (much lower than the print version).

Branko
XYU

[WaltWX[_2_]]

Branko,

I just received an email from Janice handling subscriptions... Gliding International. In short... no... you cannot download a pdf version. All you can do is read the latest issue and not be able to save it.

Walt Rogers WX

"The digital issue provides you an access code for each issue. This code
is emailed to you usually on the 2nd or 3rd of the month of publication.
The issue is a 'read' only version. You cannot down load the issue, nor
can you transfer it to an alternative electronic device. It is designed
to meet a pricing market.

If you want to retain content information for later, you need to subscribe
to the printed version which is airmailed usually on 27/28th of the month
prior to publication month. A printed version subscription does not give
you access to the Digital version."

In

[Tom Kelley #711]

On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-6, WaltWX wrote:
> Branko,
>
> I just received an email from Janice handling subscriptions... Gliding International. In short... no... you cannot download a pdf version. All you can do is read the latest issue and not be able to save it.
>
> Walt Rogers WX
>
> "The digital issue provides you an access code for each issue. This code
> is emailed to you usually on the 2nd or 3rd of the month of publication.
> The issue is a 'read' only version. You cannot down load the issue, nor
> can you transfer it to an alternative electronic device. It is designed
> to meet a pricing market.
>
> If you want to retain content information for later, you need to subscribe
> to the printed version which is airmailed usually on 27/28th of the month
> prior to publication month. A printed version subscription does not give
> you access to the Digital version."
>
> In

Well, I have both the last 2 issues saved as a PDF file. I also went online and again downloaded the Sept./Oct issue ( which now I have 2) which saved as a PDF file. You can also read it or print it. I can also print it as a saved PDF file.

Maybe a change is coming for the Nov. issue, we shall see.

Best. Tom #711.

[WaltWX[_2_]]

On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 7:45:55 PM UTC-7, Tom Kelley #711 wrote:
> On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-6, WaltWX wrote:
> > Branko,
> >
> > I just received an email from Janice handling subscriptions... Gliding International. In short... no... you cannot download a pdf version. All you can do is read the latest issue and not be able to save it.
> >
> > Walt Rogers WX
> >
> > "The digital issue provides you an access code for each issue. This code
> > is emailed to you usually on the 2nd or 3rd of the month of publication.
> > The issue is a 'read' only version. You cannot down load the issue, nor
> > can you transfer it to an alternative electronic device. It is designed
> > to meet a pricing market.
> >
> > If you want to retain content information for later, you need to subscribe
> > to the printed version which is airmailed usually on 27/28th of the month
> > prior to publication month. A printed version subscription does not give
> > you access to the Digital version."
> >
> > In
>
> Well, I have both the last 2 issues saved as a PDF file. I also went online and again downloaded the Sept./Oct issue ( which now I have 2) which saved as a PDF file. You can also read it or print it. I can also print it as a saved PDF file.
>
> Maybe a change is coming for the Nov. issue, we shall see.
>
> Best. Tom #711.

Interesting...

I'll have to get clarification on whether they intended to let one save an issue as a pdf file.

Walt WX

[Frank Whiteley]

On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 11:11:35 PM UTC-6, WaltWX wrote:
> On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 7:45:55 PM UTC-7, Tom Kelley #711 wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 8:21:55 PM UTC-6, WaltWX wrote:
> > > Branko,
> > >
> > > I just received an email from Janice handling subscriptions... Gliding International. In short... no... you cannot download a pdf version. All you can do is read the latest issue and not be able to save it.
> > >
> > > Walt Rogers WX
> > >
> > > "The digital issue provides you an access code for each issue. This code
> > > is emailed to you usually on the 2nd or 3rd of the month of publication.
> > > The issue is a 'read' only version. You cannot down load the issue, nor
> > > can you transfer it to an alternative electronic device. It is designed
> > > to meet a pricing market.
> > >
> > > If you want to retain content information for later, you need to subscribe
> > > to the printed version which is airmailed usually on 27/28th of the month
> > > prior to publication month. A printed version subscription does not give
> > > you access to the Digital version."
> > >
> > > In
> >
> > Well, I have both the last 2 issues saved as a PDF file. I also went online and again downloaded the Sept./Oct issue ( which now I have 2) which saved as a PDF file. You can also read it or print it. I can also print it as a saved PDF file.
> >
> > Maybe a change is coming for the Nov. issue, we shall see.
> >
> > Best. Tom #711.
>
> Interesting...
>
> I'll have to get clarification on whether they intended to let one save an issue as a pdf file.
>
> Walt WX

When the digital edition was announced, it was said to be online viewable, not downloadable.

Frank Whiteley

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I've downloaded them as well. No trickery required, there was a download button in the corner. Probably an unofficial option that will go away for the asking.

[Tom (TK)]

I was also able to download.

[Branko Stojkovic]

This is news to me too. So far I have been downloading the pdf files without problems.

[[email protected]]

On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 3:14:27 PM UTC+1, Branko Stojkovic wrote:
> This is news to me too. So far I have been downloading the pdf files without problems.

I wouldn't carry on subscribing if they were to make impossible to download as a pdf

[WaltWX[_2_]]

Janice from GI replied...

Apparently there's a mismatch between implementation of their digital subscriptions with their web host that is allowing downloads of a PDF and their subscription policy which does not allow it. Personally, I won't subscribe to digital unless I can save issues. I disagree with the policy. Sorry I blew up this capability..

Here's their reply:

"If the position is as you described, it is totally contrary to the
agreement we have with our web page hosts.

The situation is being addressed and corrected. Downloads was never agreed
to nor planned.

JANICE"

Walt Rogers WX

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Why you all ..... highlighted this situation ?

Sort of self harm ?

:(

[Jonathan St. Cloud]

It is now. I was going to purchase a subscription but if you can't download it I am not interested.

On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 5:07:27 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> Why you all ..... highlighted this situation ?
>
> Sort of self harm ?
>
> :(

[Steve Leonard[_2_]]

On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 8:54:38 AM UTC-5, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> It is now. I was going to purchase a subscription but if you can't download it I am not interested.
>
Agree completely. Digital is supposed to eliminate their printing and mailing costs, but still let you have the magazine available to you any time you want it. Glad I have stuck with my paper subscription. They can't take that back once they mail it to me!

Suggest you re-consider this, Mr Roake. You may have just cost yourself a bunch of subscribers.

[Branko Stojkovic]

GI may be worrying that the subscribers may share the digital copies with their friends, or even worse, post them on the Internet.

I for one promise not to do any of that!

Branko

[[email protected]]

"GI may be worrying that the subscribers may share the digital copies with their friends"

As opposed to just handing the printed copy to your friends?

[son_of_flubber]

On Tuesday, October 25, 2016 at 10:47:25 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> "GI may be worrying that the subscribers may share the digital copies with their friends"
>

There are digital publishing platforms that give subscribers a private offline copy of the magazine that is not sharable.
https://magazine.readz.com/digital-publishing-platforms-tools

[WaltWX[_2_]]

Sorry to inform Gliding International that their host web service was allowing pdf downloads when they didn't intend this to happen.

DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER!

I was simply trying to find out from them what the policy was... when other here on r.a.s. informed me that pdf's could be downloaded... oops

At some point Roake and subscription would have discovered the implementation error. Now they know...

I think it's going to hurt their digital subscription business tremendously.. After all, why would you only want the current magazine to read on-line? .... never able to go back to previous issues.

Unless I hear differently, I'm ordering the paper magazine until they get this sorted out.

Walt Rogers Wx

On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 4:07:14 PM UTC-7, WaltWX wrote:
> Janice from GI replied...
>
> Apparently there's a mismatch between implementation of their digital subscriptions with their web host that is allowing downloads of a PDF and their subscription policy which does not allow it. Personally, I won't subscribe to digital unless I can save issues. I disagree with the policy. Sorry I blew up this capability..
>
> Here's their reply:
>
> "If the position is as you described, it is totally contrary to the
> agreement we have with our web page hosts.
>
> The situation is being addressed and corrected. Downloads was never agreed
> to nor planned.
>
> JANICE"
>
> Walt Rogers WX

[Andrzej Kobus]

On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 10:49:55 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> GLIDING INTERNATIONAL
> ISSUE NOVEMBER 2016
>
>
> The November 2016 issue will go in the mail next week and should be with subscribers by November 1.
>
> We must be doing something right as we are experiencing a big lift in circulation, materially aided by our Digital version. The hundreds that have subscribed to the Digital issue will get their November copy in their email box on November 1. The November issue is another great 64 page all colour issue.
>
> • It is time gliding had a good hard look at the Olympics and reintroduce our case for participation. This issue traces the history of gliding’s involvement in the Olympics as far back as 1936. It provides readers with a chance to become informed on gliding’s Olympic history. As an aside to this, comes the news from Germany that one of the country’s biggest clubs has lost 20% of their members over the last six months, a state of affairs not restricted to the Germans. Membership decline must be addressed by the IGC and with more than just the cursory lip service they have given the problem in the past. Olympic participation must be a move in the right direction.
>
> • Aldo Cernezzi, our European correspondent flew the Spanish Nationals in the Pyrenees. Thermalling close to Vultures is really ‘something’, especially soaring in this under-rated historical soaring site in Europe. A great place for a gliding holiday.
>
> • There has been eight fatal gliding accidents in past six weeks.. We spend considerable time documenting accidents in most countries with a view to educating the sport on some of its hazards. And we came across the hangar fire that demolished six (6) sailplanes in one go. Read the details!
>
> • Why is the DG1001 two seat trainer the choice of a number of Airforce training organisations. We have a good look at what DG offers and tell our readers that they are good buy. (USA 19, Indonesia 6, Brazil 10, Australia 11).
> These upgradable trainers must be a first on any club’s shopping list.
>
> • Little known is the story about the gliders built in Poland with the aid of concrete in the 1960s. A fascinating story.
>
> • Sadly, we report the death of Fred Weinholtz in Germany. Known to thousands world wide, this gliding administrator was the first to publish a book on modern soaring. His inexpensive book, “The Theory of Modern Cross Country Gliding”, was translated for and published in English by our editor. Some 30,000 copies (German and English editions) were sold. There are plans afoot to have Fred’s text updated and the seventh edition of the book out next year. Fred and John were lifetime friends. - A Gliding International project!
>
> • Aldo Cernezzi has flown the first two seat sustainer in series production, the ASG 32Mi from Schleicher. He reports very favourably. (Readers will love our new art work).
>
> • Electric Self Launchers are getting closer and closer. We keep an eye out on all the new battery technology, the secret to this possibility.
>
> • We discovered in the last two months that the New York Herald actually sent a reporter to Germany in 1894 to interview Otto Lilienthal. We have published the interview in full (unedited) complete with the Herald’s sketches of what the reporter saw happening in Germany.
>
> • NASA is putting its money where its mouth is. They are undertaking millions of dollars of research into advanced aviation. We report on six of their projects.
>
> • All this plus 30 other stories that will educate and inform.
>
> As we have said before - our best issue yet!
>
> We hope you will join us.
> JOHN ROAKE
> EDITOR.
>
> NEW (or RENEWING) SUBSCRIBERS CAN EASILY EFFECT A SUBSCRIPTION BY GOING TO OUR WEB PAGE – For printed or Digital issue use . . . . www.glidinginternational.com

The quality of the online magazine is terrible. It is very difficult to read the text even on a 27" high resolution monitor. The downloadable version was easily readable. I will not renew my subscription unless the quality is top notch. Pardon me for the language but this is simply crap.

[[email protected]]

I just recently subscribed. The first e-magazine I received was fine. However, the second one is very difficult to read on my laptop. Further, the magazine now seems to be entirely unreadable on an iPad. I'm going to email the editor and see if they can go back to how it was. Piracy is a problem but trying to selling an unreadable magazine is going to prove to be quite a problem for their sales as well!

[Craig Funston]

Same issues. I got a very prompt email back from them saying they'd have a better version on Monday. Hoping they get it all ironed out.

Craig

[Muttley]

>
> The quality of the online magazine is terrible. It is very difficult to read the text even on a 27" high resolution monitor. The downloadable version was easily readable. I will not renew my subscription unless the quality is top notch. Pardon me for the language but this is simply crap.

+ 1

[Branko Stojkovic]

I still managed to download the pdf version, but I had to do it one page at a time, which took 10 minutes. The pdf quality was the same as before.

Branko XYU

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On Sunday, October 30, 2016 at 2:22:57 PM UTC, Branko Stojkovic wrote:
> I still managed to download the pdf version, but I had to do it one page at a time, which took 10 minutes. The pdf quality was the same as before.
>
> Branko XYU

It isn't obvious to me how to download it a page at a time as a pdf file and, like the others I find it unreadable. This is my second issue and I won't be renewing when the time comes unless it returns to being an easily downloadable pdf.

John Galloway

[Sean[_2_]]

I second the complaints about the online issue. Awful. I've had several email exchanges with the folks there. Cannot view it full size, full resolution. Very awkward. Please just send us PDFs.