Dave Nadler \YO\
September 26th 03, 12:14 AM
JJ, You are *definitely* in need of a new project.
Did you bid on that glider I pointed you at ?
See ya, Dave
"JJ Sinclair" > wrote in message
...
> I got tagged twice this year and so, consider myself something of an
expert on
> penalties. At Minden, I was heading for the edge of the 10,000 MSL start
gate
> at 9,900. I knew I was too close, but a thermal shoved me up from my
normal
> 9,700 feet. Just at the edge of the 5 mile gate (you guessed it) I hit
another
> thermal. I shoved it over hard and the GPS said I made the edge just
before the
> altimeter said I was too high. Was I right? NO, the GPS logger said I hit
> 10,010. That cost me 25 points, actually it was 23, or so, because it
wasn't a
> 1000 point day.
>
> At Ephrata, I hit the 500 foot, 1 mile, finish gate at 120 knots and 500
feet.
> Stupid move, I knew I should have had at least 100 foot margin, but JN and
I
> were in a real knife fight, and I wanted every second. GPS said I was
something
> like 470 feet at the 1 mile marker. Got tagged 1 additional minute, which
> amounted to 6 points that day. The rules say, A penalty will be applied,
but
> don't say what it is. The CD had announced it would be + 1 minute for each
100
> feet low. Kinda' Like:
>
> 400' up to 499' = +1 minute
> 300' up to 399' = + 2 minutes
> 200' up to 299' = + 3 minutes
> 100' up to 199' = + 4 minutes
> 0' up to 99' = + 5 minutes
> Less than 0' = + 5 minutes + see local glider repair
shop.
>
> Just a little humor there, sorry. Anyway, Charlie used this formula in the
> Standard Nats with another incentieve, he added an additional 5 minutes to
> everything, so that 410 feet got you a 6 minute penalty. I like it. Gives
the
> guy that may be close to not making the 500 foot, an incentive to NOT push
it
> over and call for a "Smoken' Rollin' Finish"
>
> One more tid-bit. At Ephrata, I pulled up at the 1 mile mark and actually
> entered the finish cylinder just inside 1 mile. After the contest, I
checked
> with Guy Byers and the Rules Committee (KS) and they both said, "You may
enter
> the finish cylinder from the side (1mile) OR from underneath", as I had
done.
> Shouldn't have gotten that 1 minute penalty. Oh well, put another needle
in my
> Ephrata doll.
> JJ Sinclair
Did you bid on that glider I pointed you at ?
See ya, Dave
"JJ Sinclair" > wrote in message
...
> I got tagged twice this year and so, consider myself something of an
expert on
> penalties. At Minden, I was heading for the edge of the 10,000 MSL start
gate
> at 9,900. I knew I was too close, but a thermal shoved me up from my
normal
> 9,700 feet. Just at the edge of the 5 mile gate (you guessed it) I hit
another
> thermal. I shoved it over hard and the GPS said I made the edge just
before the
> altimeter said I was too high. Was I right? NO, the GPS logger said I hit
> 10,010. That cost me 25 points, actually it was 23, or so, because it
wasn't a
> 1000 point day.
>
> At Ephrata, I hit the 500 foot, 1 mile, finish gate at 120 knots and 500
feet.
> Stupid move, I knew I should have had at least 100 foot margin, but JN and
I
> were in a real knife fight, and I wanted every second. GPS said I was
something
> like 470 feet at the 1 mile marker. Got tagged 1 additional minute, which
> amounted to 6 points that day. The rules say, A penalty will be applied,
but
> don't say what it is. The CD had announced it would be + 1 minute for each
100
> feet low. Kinda' Like:
>
> 400' up to 499' = +1 minute
> 300' up to 399' = + 2 minutes
> 200' up to 299' = + 3 minutes
> 100' up to 199' = + 4 minutes
> 0' up to 99' = + 5 minutes
> Less than 0' = + 5 minutes + see local glider repair
shop.
>
> Just a little humor there, sorry. Anyway, Charlie used this formula in the
> Standard Nats with another incentieve, he added an additional 5 minutes to
> everything, so that 410 feet got you a 6 minute penalty. I like it. Gives
the
> guy that may be close to not making the 500 foot, an incentive to NOT push
it
> over and call for a "Smoken' Rollin' Finish"
>
> One more tid-bit. At Ephrata, I pulled up at the 1 mile mark and actually
> entered the finish cylinder just inside 1 mile. After the contest, I
checked
> with Guy Byers and the Rules Committee (KS) and they both said, "You may
enter
> the finish cylinder from the side (1mile) OR from underneath", as I had
done.
> Shouldn't have gotten that 1 minute penalty. Oh well, put another needle
in my
> Ephrata doll.
> JJ Sinclair