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December 17th 16, 01:55 AM
I have been using SPOT for a number of years, and have found it spotty, frequently missing large gaps.

Considering going to inReach, and wondering the merits of Explorer vs SE, and what tracking intervals people are using with the newer devices.

Also, wondering about the number of missed hits with the inReach devices compared to Spot.


Thanks,

Kevin
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bumper[_4_]
December 17th 16, 06:50 AM
Kevin,

I've got the older Pre - Explorer / SE black box InReach. Except for the first one that was defective, dropping out and stopping tracking by itself (they replaced it free), it's been rock solid.

I use it with both power plane and glider, the glider with a shorter tracking interval and power longer, as the track is most often straighter with a power plane so course line can be projected.

It's rock solid. I've had delays sending a message when I was camping in a steep canyon up in Idaho with limited view of the sky, had to wait about 5 minutes for a sat to come in view I guess.

I'm going to upgrade to a new InReach model, but trying to hold off as it's time for Garmin (who purchased InReach) to come out with a new model with a better display. If I was going to buy one now, it'd be the SE while waiting for the new models.

bumper

Jonathan St. Cloud
December 17th 16, 01:50 PM
What would be great is a combo sat phone and tracker. Spot makes a sat phone, but when I went to sat phone store, they told me the sat phone is not also a spot tacker.

On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 10:50:41 PM UTC-8, bumper wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> I've got the older Pre - Explorer / SE black box InReach. Except for the first one that was defective, dropping out and stopping tracking by itself (they replaced it free), it's been rock solid.
>
> I use it with both power plane and glider, the glider with a shorter tracking interval and power longer, as the track is most often straighter with a power plane so course line can be projected.
>
> It's rock solid. I've had delays sending a message when I was camping in a steep canyon up in Idaho with limited view of the sky, had to wait about 5 minutes for a sat to come in view I guess.
>
> I'm going to upgrade to a new InReach model, but trying to hold off as it's time for Garmin (who purchased InReach) to come out with a new model with a better display. If I was going to buy one now, it'd be the SE while waiting for the new models.
>
> bumper

jfitch
December 17th 16, 04:22 PM
On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 5:55:29 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> I have been using SPOT for a number of years, and have found it spotty, frequently missing large gaps.
>
> Considering going to inReach, and wondering the merits of Explorer vs SE, and what tracking intervals people are using with the newer devices.
>
> Also, wondering about the number of missed hits with the inReach devices compared to Spot.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kevin
> 92

Spot and inReach don't just work on different satellite constellations, they use a different messaging protocol. On Spot, messages are sent in the blind with some redundancy - but if it doesn't get to the satellite, the message is lost: t is one way communication. inReach sends a message (to the more reliable Iridium constellation) and then waits for confirmation back from the satellite. If it doesn't get confirmation it continues to send that message until confirmation is received. Perhaps not 100%, but far more reliable than sending in the blind. I have used mine in the glider and on the boat, all over the US, Canada, and out to the Exhumas, I don't think I have ever seen a dropped message.

There is a big difference in subscription cost going to shorter than 10 minute tracking intervals. Battery life isn't an issue on a glider flight, but messaging cost might be. I have the SE, as far as I can tell the Explorer offers some advantages if you are going to use it as a stand alone mapping device (hiking for example), but for messaging (including emergency use) it appears to offer nothing additional.

December 18th 16, 11:40 PM
Thanks everyone for the great replies.

Kevin
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