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[Mitchell Holman[_3_]]

[Charles Lindbergh]

On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> wrote:

The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.

[Dave Kearton[_4_]]

"Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> wrote:

> The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
> the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
> Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
> original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.



It's actually a frame from a low-budget war movie in the early '50s.
Can't remember which one now, I saw it (probably) 40 years ago.









Cheers

Dave Kearton

[R2D2]

On Tue, 24 May 2016 12:39:33 +0000, Charles Lindbergh
> wrote:

>On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> wrote:
>
>The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
>the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
>Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
>original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.

Bail out would mean a crash, doubt the plane would be flyable. My
guess is that the planes crash landed with shot up canopies, or maybe
they flipped over on crash landing.

[Charles Lindbergh]

On Wed, 25 May 2016 05:10:45 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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>On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> wrote:
>
>> The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
>> the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
>> Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
>> original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.
>
>
>
>It's actually a frame from a low-budget war movie in the early '50s.
>Can't remember which one now, I saw it (probably) 40 years ago.
>
>

You could very well be correct. However, so far, in five minutes I
have found at least three web sites which have published this same
image. see:

http://worldwarwings.com/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-the-p-51-mustang

Also, the movie clip answer doesn't explain the difference in the
canopies.

[Charles Lindbergh]

On Tue, 24 May 2016 20:58:24 +0100, R2D2 > wrote:

>On Tue, 24 May 2016 12:39:33 +0000, Charles Lindbergh
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> wrote:
>>
>>The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
>>the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
>>Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
>>original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.
>
>Bail out would mean a crash, doubt the plane would be flyable. My
>guess is that the planes crash landed with shot up canopies, or maybe
>they flipped over on crash landing.

Yes, it is all speculation. It would be interesting to read a
definitive answer.

[john szalay]

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in news:t721z.92058$Ni6.16663
@fx39.iad:

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> "Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> > wrote:
>
>> The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
>> the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
>> Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
>> original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.
>
>
>
> It's actually a frame from a low-budget war movie in the early '50s.
> Can't remember which one now, I saw it (probably) 40 years ago.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>


movie was " Fighter Squadron " (1948)

[Savageduck[_3_]]

On 2016-05-24 22:43:09 +0000, john szalay <john.szalayatatt.net> said:

> "Dave Kearton" > wrote in news:t721z.92058$Ni6.16663
> @fx39.iad:
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>> "Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
>>> the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
>>> Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
>>> original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.
>>
>> It's actually a frame from a low-budget war movie in the early '50s.
>> Can't remember which one now, I saw it (probably) 40 years ago.
>>
>
> movie was " Fighter Squadron " (1948)

All interesting stuff. Here is the full story,
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighter_Squadron>


--
Regards,

Savageduck

[john szalay]

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in news:t721z.92058$Ni6.16663
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>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>


Dave
need to thank you for some photos you posted several years ago..
showing B-29/F-13 at Morotai from the AU war memorial files.
was able to obtain some data from NARA's records on the 3rd PRS
concering those photos and why those planes were there...

F-13 Yokohama Yo-Yo 42-24621 3rd PRS

John in Ky.

[john szalay]

[john szalay]

[john szalay]

[Bob (not my real pseudonym)[_2_]]

On Tue, 24 May 2016 20:09:37 +0000, Charles Lindbergh
> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 May 2016 05:10:45 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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>>
>>On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> wrote:
>>
>>> The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
>>> the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
>>> Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
>>> original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.
>>
>>
>>
>>It's actually a frame from a low-budget war movie in the early '50s.
>>Can't remember which one now, I saw it (probably) 40 years ago.
>>
>>
>
>You could very well be correct. However, so far, in five minutes I
>have found at least three web sites which have published this same
>image. see:
>
>http://worldwarwings.com/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-the-p-51-mustang
>
>Also, the movie clip answer doesn't explain the difference in the
>canopies.

Based on the dates of the movie, wondering if these are P-51H or P-51K
models, which do have the slightly different canopies.

[Dave Kearton[_4_]]

"john szalay" wrote in message
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"Dave Kearton" > wrote in news:t721z.92058$Ni6.16663
@fx39.iad:

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> "Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> > wrote:
>
>> The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
>> the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
>> Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
>> original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.
>
>
>
> It's actually a frame from a low-budget war movie in the early '50s.
> Can't remember which one now, I saw it (probably) 40 years ago.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>


> movie was " Fighter Squadron " (1948)



Thanks John, I may still be losing brain cells, but apparently that part is
still intact.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtsNMJHsuJI





Cheers

Dave Kearton

[Dave Kearton[_4_]]

"john szalay" wrote in message
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"Dave Kearton" > wrote in news:t721z.92058$Ni6.16663
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>


> Dave
> need to thank you for some photos you posted several years ago..
> showing B-29/F-13 at Morotai from the AU war memorial files.
> was able to obtain some data from NARA's records on the 3rd PRS
> concering those photos and why those planes were there...

> F-13 Yokohama Yo-Yo 42-24621 3rd PRS

> John in Ky.



No problems John, it's great to see more pieces in the puzzle.



Cheers

Dave Kearton

[Charles Lindbergh[_2_]]

On Tue, 24 May 2016 23:24:24 -0700, "Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote:

>On Tue, 24 May 2016 20:09:37 +0000, Charles Lindbergh
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 May 2016 05:10:45 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
>>>> the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
>>>> Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
>>>> original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It's actually a frame from a low-budget war movie in the early '50s.
>>>Can't remember which one now, I saw it (probably) 40 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You could very well be correct. However, so far, in five minutes I
>>have found at least three web sites which have published this same
>>image. see:
>>
>>http://worldwarwings.com/10-things-you-might-not-know-about-the-p-51-mustang
>>
>>Also, the movie clip answer doesn't explain the difference in the
>>canopies.
>
>Based on the dates of the movie, wondering if these are P-51H or P-51K
>models, which do have the slightly different canopies.

You might have the answer, they could be H or K models, difficult to tell without seeing the full aircraft.
Good call though.

[john szalay]

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in news:lcf1z.424$ai3.388
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>
> No problems John, it's great to see more pieces in the puzzle.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave Kearton
>
>


Also according to records from AFHRA , it was a request to the 20th AF from
MacAthur's HQ for the photos of Batavia , that planes from the 3PRS flew
those missions.. not part of thier normal assigned missons.

When you posted the photos, it really got my attention, and I had to find
out why they were well outside the normal stalking grounds.

Thanks Again...

[Bob (not my real pseudonym)[_2_]]

On Wed, 25 May 2016 16:34:26 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> wrote:

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>"john szalay" wrote in message
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>"Dave Kearton" > wrote in news:t721z.92058$Ni6.16663
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>> "Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:00:01 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> The canopies on the two aircraft in the foreground look different then
>>> the normal P51-D canopy. They almost look like they are from the
>>> Fw-190 production line. I suppose that would make sense if the
>>> original pilot had to bail out and the canopy was destroyed.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's actually a frame from a low-budget war movie in the early '50s.
>> Can't remember which one now, I saw it (probably) 40 years ago.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Dave Kearton
>>
>>
>
>
>> movie was " Fighter Squadron " (1948)
>
>
>
>Thanks John, I may still be losing brain cells, but apparently that part is
>still intact.
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtsNMJHsuJI

They went on to produce "Who Killed Captain Alex"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEoGrbKAyKE