Hey You Californians

[Scott]

Is that fire producing a nice thermal out there? It is a tragic event, but
why not make some use of it?
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[Lennie the Lurker]

"Scott" > wrote in message >...
> Is that fire producing a nice thermal out there? It is a tragic event, but
> why not make some use of it?

Because there may be nasty things like patrol aircraft and fire bombers in the area.

[Marcel Duenner]

you'd probably suffocate.

http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?2003301-1028/California.A2003301.1825.1km.jpg

[Burt Compton]

>"Scott" > wrote in message
>...
>> Is that fire producing a nice thermal out there? It is a tragic event, but
>> why not make some use of it?

Breathing products of combustion of unknown fuels (old tires, houses,
fertilizers) is very hazardous. If you didn;t become imparied while
thermalling in it, you might suffer long

[Brian Case]

I did this one a couple years ago in Sun Valley, Idaho. A grass fire
had started on the hill just before I launched. Had a great Thermal
right in next to the smoke. Was climbing throug 15,500 when the Tower
called me and told me I had to leave because the Fire Bombers were
inbound. One would think that at 15,500 I would be out of the way of
any Fire Bombers but I had to leave anyway as I watch the 1st bombers
(Single Engine, Crop Dusters) make the 1st few passes at 500 AGL or
less.

Brian


(Lennie the Lurker) wrote in message >...
> "Scott" > wrote in message >...
> > Is that fire producing a nice thermal out there? It is a tragic event, but
> > why not make some use of it?
>
> Because there may be nasty things like patrol aircraft and fire bombers in the area.

[BTIZ]

One of the 1-26 Assoc members, Merlybird, has lost his home in the fire..
One of the fires is reported to be about 15miles from Warner Springs and
another fire is about 10 miles from Warner Springs. This is where the "Skid
Row" gang from the 1-26 Assoc flies.

Merle was able to save his weapons, his parrot and his 1-26 log books. The
aircraft is currently safely in a hanger at Gillespie Field in San Diego

BT

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> Is that fire producing a nice thermal out there? It is a tragic event, but
> why not make some use of it?
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[Scott]

I might be out of line here, but aren't you guys used to flying with oxygen?
"Burt Compton" > wrote in message
...
> >"Scott" > wrote in message
> >...
> >> Is that fire producing a nice thermal out there? It is a tragic event,
but
> >> why not make some use of it?
>
> Breathing products of combustion of unknown fuels (old tires, houses,
> fertilizers) is very hazardous. If you didn;t become imparied while
> thermalling in it, you might suffer long
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[Lennie the Lurker]

There is a good reason. Those guys are putting their lives on the
line everytime they make a run. They're low, the air is anything but
smooth, and they're carrying max loads every time. They don't need to
have to even think that there may be someone else in the area, and how
high you are doesn't matter. They've got all they can do to
concentrate on delivering the load of retardant to the target without
worrying about turning someone else into ground meat. I think calif
has or had a law about overflying a forest or brush fire anyhow, but
don't have any way of looking it up. That was more than 40 years ago.

(Brian Case) wrote in message >...
> I did this one a couple years ago in Sun Valley, Idaho. A grass fire
> had started on the hill just before I launched. Had a great Thermal
> right in next to the smoke. Was climbing throug 15,500 when the Tower
> called me and told me I had to leave because the Fire Bombers were
> inbound. One would think that at 15,500 I would be out of the way of
> any Fire Bombers but I had to leave anyway as I watch the 1st bombers
> (Single Engine, Crop Dusters) make the 1st few passes at 500 AGL or
> less.
>
> Brian
>
>
> (Lennie the Lurker) wrote in message >...
> > "Scott" > wrote in message >...
> > > Is that fire producing a nice thermal out there? It is a tragic event, but
> > > why not make some use of it?
> >
> > Because there may be nasty things like patrol aircraft and fire bombers in the area.

[BTIZ]

Part two... the 1-26, I think it is serial number 019 was going through some
rebuild. The bulk of the glider was in the hanger, but the instrument panel,
horizontal stab and tail cone were at the house.. gone..

Does anyone have a 1-26A horizontal stab? Don't know if he needs both stab
and elevator, but I suspect he does.


BT

"BTIZ" > wrote in message
news:1lYnb.103661$La.30336@fed1read02...
> One of the 1-26 Assoc members, Merlybird, has lost his home in the fire..
> One of the fires is reported to be about 15miles from Warner Springs and
> another fire is about 10 miles from Warner Springs. This is where the
"Skid
> Row" gang from the 1-26 Assoc flies.
>
> Merle was able to save his weapons, his parrot and his 1-26 log books. The
> aircraft is currently safely in a hanger at Gillespie Field in San Diego
>
> BT
>
> "Scott" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Is that fire producing a nice thermal out there? It is a tragic event,
but
> > why not make some use of it?
> > __________________________________________________ ________________ scott
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[Brian Case]

I really wasn't complaining, I was happy to do my part to help them
out. It was more just an observation that it didn't seem to make a lot
of sense to make me move out of the top of the smoke cloud back to the
airport for a landing where they were taking off and landing from.

Brian


(Lennie the Lurker) wrote in message >...
> There is a good reason. Those guys are putting their lives on the
> line everytime they make a run. They're low, the air is anything but
> smooth, and they're carrying max loads every time. They don't need to
> have to even think that there may be someone else in the area, and how
> high you are doesn't matter. They've got all they can do to
> concentrate on delivering the load of retardant to the target without
> worrying about turning someone else into ground meat. I think calif
> has or had a law about overflying a forest or brush fire anyhow, but
> don't have any way of looking it up. That was more than 40 years ago.
>
> (Brian Case) wrote in message >...
> > I did this one a couple years ago in Sun Valley, Idaho. A grass fire
> > had started on the hill just before I launched. Had a great Thermal
> > right in next to the smoke. Was climbing throug 15,500 when the Tower
> > called me and told me I had to leave because the Fire Bombers were
> > inbound. One would think that at 15,500 I would be out of the way of
> > any Fire Bombers but I had to leave anyway as I watch the 1st bombers
> > (Single Engine, Crop Dusters) make the 1st few passes at 500 AGL or
> > less.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > (Lennie the Lurker) wrote in message >...
> > > "Scott" > wrote in message >...
> > > > Is that fire producing a nice thermal out there? It is a tragic event, but
> > > > why not make some use of it?
> > >
> > > Because there may be nasty things like patrol aircraft and fire bombers in the area.

[Mark James Boyd]

I got to thermal over a controlled burn near Hernandez once.
It was a very small one but provided good thermals and
easy to follow by smelling the smoke. I reported
it on flight following and FSS, and got back
that it was controlled.

During some of the more recent fires I got to fly over them
at night. The firefighting restricted areas were only to
6000MSL, and flying over at 6500 at night was really
stunning to see. Fortunately these were fires in
Northern Calif. two months ago that took no lives or property.