What is going on?!

[Janusz Kesik]

Some month ago, I did delete r.a.s. from my list of subscribed =
newsgroups when I got a post with a virus attached. A month later (now) =
discovering few threads regarding Jantar I thought: "Maybe it was =
one-off infected posting". After TWO DAYS of my presence at r.a.s. =
forum, I have found a next "security patch" post with an attachment =
(this time I was very carefully moving my mouse to not to click =
accidentally as I had done it previously). Again.
What is going on with this newsgroup?! Do I have to give it a go =
definitely? :-/

Anyone knows the way to force the Outlook Express to not to download any =
posts with binary file attached from the news server?

Regards,


--=20
Janusz Kesik

visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl

[BTIZ]

I do not have any problems with viruses from RAS, it must be your local news
server.. do you not run an anti virus software on your MS Outlook? Norton
does it very well. I am normally told when Dr. Norton finds something, but
they have never flagged a news group virus.

BT

"Janusz Kesik" > wrote in message
...
Some month ago, I did delete r.a.s. from my list of subscribed newsgroups
when I got a post with a virus attached. A month later (now) discovering few
threads regarding Jantar I thought: "Maybe it was one-off infected posting".
After TWO DAYS of my presence at r.a.s. forum, I have found a next "security
patch" post with an attachment (this time I was very carefully moving my
mouse to not to click accidentally as I had done it previously). Again.
What is going on with this newsgroup?! Do I have to give it a go definitely?
:-/

Anyone knows the way to force the Outlook Express to not to download any
posts with binary file attached from the news server?

Regards,


--
Janusz Kesik

visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl

[cernauta]

> "Janusz Kesik" wrote in message


> Anyone knows the way to force the Outlook Express to not to download any
> posts with binary file attached from the news server?

I have been introduced (by M Ravazzolo) to the use of "Mailwasher", a
program that allows you to check all the mail in your server, prior to
downloading. It's easy to use, you can preview sender and subject, the
size of attachments if present, even read the text when double clicking;
without downloading!
Then you can delete, or even "bounce" selected messages to the sender,
as if your account was not existent.
Only then, you start your normal mail program. Save a lot of time!

here it is for free in version 2 (1,4 MegaByte) (will not work on
Hotmail):
http://www.mailwasher.net/index.php

Aldo Cernezzi

[Chip Fitzpatrick]

I don't know where the virus is coming from, but I find that Norton AntiVirus,
works well. www.symantec.com

McAfee is good too. I seem to get at least four messages a day.

Chip F

[Eric Greenwell]

Janusz Kesik wrote:
> Some month ago, I did delete r.a.s. from my list of subscribed newsgroups when I got a post with a virus attached. A month later (now) discovering few threads regarding Jantar I thought: "Maybe it was one-off infected posting". After TWO DAYS of my presence at r.a.s. forum, I have found a next "security patch" post with an attachment (this time I was very carefully moving my mouse to not to click accidentally as I had done it previously). Again.
> What is going on with this newsgroup?! Do I have to give it a go definitely? :-/

I've never gotten an attachment on r.a.s, but maybe it was because I was
using a different newsreader (Gravity by Microplanet - now apparently
extinct).

I've attached a simple text file to this message to see if the
newsreader I've just begun to use (Netscape 7.1's news reader) will
bring in an attachment.

> Anyone knows the way to force the Outlook Express to not to download any posts with binary file attached from the news server?

No, but Netscape won't download messages over a size I can set. By
setting this at 20 kb, for example, it would reject messages with any of
the usual viruses because they are larger than 20 kb. Perhaps Outlook
can also do this.

attachment test

[CH]

it has not to be linked to RAS - a virus epidemic
has started three month ago.

I kill the virus attached mails

- like latest Microsoft Upgrade Patch....
- MS Security Session
- Microsoft Software Security Centre
and so on (which really do not come from MS)

to include words like Microsoft, Upgrade,
Security... in the spam filter for email
- Matador or Norton or .......

Using Internet and eMail without filters and
automatically updated Antivirus Software
guarantees a computer breakdown within
three month.

Chris


"BTIZ" > wrote in message
news:39Cqb.4853$Zb7.2618@fed1read01...
> I do not have any problems with viruses from RAS, it must be your local
news
> server.. do you not run an anti virus software on your MS Outlook? Norton
> does it very well. I am normally told when Dr. Norton finds something, but
> they have never flagged a news group virus.
>
> BT
>

[BTIZ]

Eric.. the "attachment test" words in the text file.. were there on my news
server "news.west.cox.net".. in the attached file.

all is well

BT

"Eric Greenwell" > wrote in message
...
> Janusz Kesik wrote:
> > Some month ago, I did delete r.a.s. from my list of subscribed
newsgroups when I got a post with a virus attached. A month later (now)
discovering few threads regarding Jantar I thought: "Maybe it was one-off
infected posting". After TWO DAYS of my presence at r.a.s. forum, I have
found a next "security patch" post with an attachment (this time I was very
carefully moving my mouse to not to click accidentally as I had done it
previously). Again.
> > What is going on with this newsgroup?! Do I have to give it a go
definitely? :-/
>
> I've never gotten an attachment on r.a.s, but maybe it was because I was
> using a different newsreader (Gravity by Microplanet - now apparently
> extinct).
>
> I've attached a simple text file to this message to see if the
> newsreader I've just begun to use (Netscape 7.1's news reader) will
> bring in an attachment.
>
> > Anyone knows the way to force the Outlook Express to not to download any
posts with binary file attached from the news server?
>
> No, but Netscape won't download messages over a size I can set. By
> setting this at 20 kb, for example, it would reject messages with any of
> the usual viruses because they are larger than 20 kb. Perhaps Outlook
> can also do this.
>


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> attachment test
>

[goneill]

Do not use a system hog like Nortons, It works but you pay a big
price in system resources and dollars.
I use Antivir its free and effective .
I agree with others about mailwasher
I have been using it since it first came out ,(its NZ written)
gary

"BTIZ" > wrote in message
news:39Cqb.4853$Zb7.2618@fed1read01...
> I do not have any problems with viruses from RAS, it must be your local
news
> server.. do you not run an anti virus software on your MS Outlook? Norton
> does it very well. I am normally told when Dr. Norton finds something, but
> they have never flagged a news group virus.
>
> BT
>
> "Janusz Kesik" > wrote in message
> ...
> Some month ago, I did delete r.a.s. from my list of subscribed newsgroups
> when I got a post with a virus attached. A month later (now) discovering
few
> threads regarding Jantar I thought: "Maybe it was one-off infected
posting".
> After TWO DAYS of my presence at r.a.s. forum, I have found a next
"security
> patch" post with an attachment (this time I was very carefully moving my
> mouse to not to click accidentally as I had done it previously). Again.
> What is going on with this newsgroup?! Do I have to give it a go
definitely?
> :-/
>
> Anyone knows the way to force the Outlook Express to not to download any
> posts with binary file attached from the news server?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> --
> Janusz Kesik
>
> visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl
>
>
>

[tango4]

Have a look at running free AVG antivirus from www.grisoft.com I use it in
our offices and at home and have yet to be caught out by a virus. ( I've had
them delivered but AVG has caught them every time )
mailwasher is a good idea but wont help much with newsgroups like R.A.S, try
looking around for one of the other news readers -
http://cws.internet.com/news.html

Ian

[Scott Correa]

"Janusz Kesik" > wrote in message
...
Some month ago, I did delete r.a.s. from my list of subscribed newsgroups
when I got a post with a virus attached. A month later (now) discovering few
threads regarding Jantar I thought: "Maybe it was one-off infected posting".
After TWO DAYS of my presence at r.a.s. forum, I have found a next "security
patch" post with an attachment (this time I was very carefully moving my
mouse to not to click accidentally as I had done it previously). Again.
What is going on with this newsgroup?! Do I have to give it a go definitely?
:-/

Anyone knows the way to force the Outlook Express to not to download any
posts with binary file attached from the news server?

Regards,


--
Janusz Kesik

visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl


You Know.....
you have 2 different email addys listed in the message.
The reply to has a "remove to reply" inserted in it.
the seconds one doesn't. I'd look at which address is getting the
mail. Newsgroups are fertile grounds for address snatching subroutines.
If you leave a valid address in the note, you screwed up.

Scott.

[Martin Gregorie]

On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:57:35 +0100, "Janusz Kesik"
> wrote:

>Some month ago, I did delete r.a.s. from my list of subscribed newsgroups when I got a post with a virus attached. A month later (now) discovering few threads regarding Jantar I thought: "Maybe it was one-off infected posting". After TWO DAYS of my presence at r.a.s. forum, I have found a next "security patch" post with an attachment (this time I was very carefully moving my mouse to not to click accidentally as I had done it previously). Again.
>What is going on with this newsgroup?! Do I have to give it a go definitely? :-/
>
>Anyone knows the way to force the Outlook Express to not to download any posts with binary file attached from the news server?
>
Don't use Outlook Express for reading newsgroups. Try Forte's Free
Agent instead (it really is free):

http://www.forteinc.com

I've tried a few and this is the one I like best. It won't open
attachments unless you explicitly ask it to and won't display HTML
pages either - unless you ask it to, which I don't.

Outlook-specific advice: AFAIK its not possible to turn off attachment
download. However, here's something you CAN do. If you've got the
preview pane turned on (it's on by default) turn it off at once. When
a message is previewed all its attachments are opened and if one is a
virus then your PC is toast. Note: you won't even be able to select a
message for deletion without opening its attachments if preview is
turned on.

HTH
Martin

--
martin@ : Martin Gregorie
gregorie : Harlow, UK
demon :
co : Zappa fan & glider pilot
uk :

[Andreas Maurer]

On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:57:35 +0100, "Janusz Kesik"
> wrote:

>Some month ago, I did delete r.a.s. from my list of subscribed newsgroups when I got a post with a virus attached. A month later (now) discovering few threads regarding Jantar I thought: "Maybe it was one-off infected posting". After TWO DAYS of my presence at r.a.s. forum, I have found a next "security patch" post with an attachment (this time I was very carefully moving my mouse to not to click accidentally as I had done it previously). Again.
>What is going on with this newsgroup?! Do I have to give it a go definitely? :-/
>
>Anyone knows the way to force the Outlook Express to not to download any posts with binary file attached from the news server?

I get about 50 of these postings. Per day. Spam. Ignore them.

Bye
Andreas

[Janusz Kesik]

> I've attached a simple text file to this message to see if the=20
> newsreader I've just begun to use (Netscape 7.1's news reader) will=20
> bring in an attachment.
>=20
> > Anyone knows the way to force the Outlook Express to not to download =
any posts with binary file attached from the news server?
>=20
> No, but Netscape won't download messages over a size I can set. By=20
> setting this at 20 kb, for example, it would reject messages with any =
of=20
> the usual viruses because they are larger than 20 kb. Perhaps Outlook=20
> can also do this.


I have checked, and OE can't do that. :( I was trying to move to =
Netscape, or rather the Mozilla, and it works well, but it seems to be =
more convenient for ones who have a LAN or something like LAN =
connection. In case of modem user it hasn't a feature I desire very =
much: downoading all the new messages for offline browsing.

Thanks for Your input,


--=20
Janusz Kesik

visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl

[Janusz Kesik]

> http://www.forteinc.com
>=20
> I've tried a few and this is the one I like best. It won't open
> attachments unless you explicitly ask it to and won't display HTML
> pages either - unless you ask it to, which I don't.

I have just downloaded it and starting to test it. :)

> Outlook-specific advice: AFAIK its not possible to turn off attachment
> download. However, here's something you CAN do. If you've got the
> preview pane turned on (it's on by default) turn it off at once. When
> a message is previewed all its attachments are opened and if one is a
> virus then your PC is toast.=20

Done that with the email inbox, and it seems to be working for some =
time. I didn't want to do that with the newsgroup browser, but... well =
it looks like I'll have to.

Regards,


--=20
Janusz Kesik

visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl

[Janusz Kesik]

> I get about 50 of these postings. Per day. Spam. Ignore them.

I didn't mean a bulk of advertisments in tha mailbox, but posts to the =
newsgroups containing an executable file which blows up Your comp. Spam =
is something You can simply ignore and delete, but these posts from =
newsgroups may cause a lot of harm, which I had experienced.

Regards,


--=20
Janusz Kesik

visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl

[Janusz Kesik]

> - like latest Microsoft Upgrade Patch....
> - MS Security Session
> - Microsoft Software Security Centre
> and so on (which really do not come from MS)

Done that, it's easy and simple. Should be working... The emails are =
deleted from server, and the posts won't be downloaded from the news =
servers.

Regards,


--=20
Janusz Kesik

visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl

[Janusz Kesik]

OK guys, thank You so much for Your input, I did what I was able to do =
at the moment, and I hope it helps at least a little bit.
I hope I'll be able to keep up to date with the r.a.s. and contribute a =
bit if I could. :)

Thanks again,


--=20
Janusz Kesik

visit www.leszno.pl - home of the www.css-leszno.it.pl

[Eric Greenwell]

Janusz Kesik wrote:

>>No, but Netscape won't download messages over a size I can set. By
>>setting this at 20 kb, for example, it would reject messages with any of
>>the usual viruses because they are larger than 20 kb. Perhaps Outlook
>>can also do this.
>
> I have checked, and OE can't do that. :( I was trying to move to Netscape, or rather the Mozilla, and it works well, but it seems to be more
convenient for ones who have a LAN or something like LAN connection. In
case of modem user it hasn't a feature I desire very much: downoading
all the new messages for offline browsing.

I use Netscape 7.1, which can be used to read messages off-line. Mozilla
probably can, too, since they are siblings. The menu items you use for
this are:

File|Offline|Work Offline

File|Offline|Get Flagged Messages

You might also have to set some "Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings"
items (from the Mail window, not the Browser window):

Edit|Mail and Newsgroup Account Settings|Offline and Disk space

So, you can go online, get the subjects, go off-line, flag the ones you
want to read, go online, and get the flagged messages, go off-line, and
read at your leisure. That's how I do it when traveling with my laptop.