Question to our Italian friends

[Peter Nyffeler]

In the form of the Swiss Soaring Society there is a link to a link to a
regulation of the Italian aviation authority about Transponder requirements in
Italy.
http://www.fivv.it/documenti/2003/Reg-Transponder.pdf

In Paragraph 1.2.f it is written
"a partire dal 30 giugno 2004 tutti i velivoli e gli elicotteri che operano
nello spazio areeo italiano in aualungue classe di spaci aereo"

I don't speak Italian, but as far as I can understand this means transponders
will be mandatory for gliders from 30 June 2004
Is this true?

Peter Nyffeler
Tel P 01 363 62 42, Tel G 01 632 43 60, Fax G 01 632 10 21

[cernauta]

(Peter Nyffeler) wrote:

>In the form of the Swiss Soaring Society there is a link to a link to a
>regulation of the Italian aviation authority about Transponder requirements in
>Italy.
>http://www.fivv.it/documenti/2003/Reg-Transponder.pdf
>
>In Paragraph 1.2.f it is written
>"a partire dal 30 giugno 2004 tutti i velivoli e gli elicotteri che operano
>nello spazio areeo italiano in aualungue classe di spaci aereo"
>
>I don't speak Italian, but as far as I can understand this means transponders
>will be mandatory for gliders from 30 June 2004
>Is this true?

Hi!

No, it means, in accordance with the Eurocontrol original english
text, XPDR is mandatory for AIRPLANES and ROTORCRAFT in all of Italian
airspace, effective 30-6-2003

XPDR is mandatory already from now, in gliders, only for flights in
class C, D, E airspace. (not much of that is close to the areas where
we use to fly, just the TMA of Padova for example).

Some discussion, however, is going on, as many ATC operators don't
have clear understanding of the definitions of AIRCRAFT ("aeromobile",
including gliders and ballons), and AIRPLANE ("velivolo", powered
fixed wing aircraft).

Cheers

Aldo Cernezzi

(remove PUSSAVIA+BUBU to reply to me)

[cernauta]

cernauta > wrote:

>No, it means, in accordance with the Eurocontrol original english
>text, XPDR is mandatory for AIRPLANES and ROTORCRAFT in all of Italian
>airspace, effective 30-6-2003
I meant 2004, of course

Aldo

[Stefan]

Peter Nyffeler wrote:

> "a partire dal 30 giugno 2004 tutti i velivoli
....
> I don't speak Italian, but as far as I can understand this means transponders
> will be mandatory for gliders

Peter, you have just become a victim of what translators call a "wrong
friend". (In German "falscher Freund", I don't know whether it is really
called a "wrong friend" in English.)

A wrong friend is a word in a foreign language that sounds like a word
in a known language but means a different thing. Here, "velivolo" sounds
like the french "velivole" (glider pilot) which you probably know, but
means "motorized aircraft".

(BTW: Computer translations are full of wrongly translated "wrong
fiends". One of the most famous is Control Panel, which is everywhere
translated as "Kontrollfeld" instead of "Einstellungsfeld". Just another
step towards the decay of western culture.)

Stefan