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Arnold Pieper
November 14th 03, 10:32 PM
Anybody knows about Soaring places in Mexico ?

I never heard of anything there...

Arnold

Bob Johnson
November 14th 03, 10:46 PM
We don't need no steenking gliders.

Mexican Joe

Just kiding 8>)

Arnold Pieper wrote:
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> Anybody knows about Soaring places in Mexico ?
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> I never heard of anything there...
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> Arnold

303pilot
November 14th 03, 10:48 PM
There is an outfit that operates near Monterrey and they have wave there in
the winter. I thought I had some correspondence from someone there but
can't find it... Miguel L, can you assist?

"Arnold Pieper" > wrote in message
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> Anybody knows about Soaring places in Mexico ?
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> I never heard of anything there...
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> Arnold
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Miguel Lavalle
November 15th 03, 03:36 AM
Arnold,

Brent and I exchanged some e-mail about soaring in
Monterrey a couple of
years ago. I don't recall that we actually found anything
concrete. I have a
good friend who is a retired executive jets pilot and
lives in Monterrey. I
am going to call him and ask whether he knows something.

My guess is that there are no soaring operations in
Mexico, due to two
reasons:

1) My dad and brothers are airline pilots in Mexico.
They have never
mentioned anything about soaring or seeing soaring
symbols in the charts

2) Taxes have not been very friendly to this type of
activitiy. A glider
would be classified as a luxury item and taxed at a
rate of at least 100%
over the purchase price. With NAFTA this probably changed
recently but I
don't think enough time has passed to allow the formation
of soaring clubs.

Anyway, as I said above, I will try to find something

Just out of curiosity, are you planning to move to
Mexico?

Regards

Miguel

At 23:00 14 November 2003, 303pilot wrote:
>There is an outfit that operates near Monterrey and
>they have wave there in
>the winter. I thought I had some correspondence from
>someone there but
>can't find it... Miguel L, can you assist?
>
>'Arnold Pieper' wrote in message
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>> Anybody knows about Soaring places in Mexico ?
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>> I never heard of anything there...
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>> Arnold
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B Lacovara
November 15th 03, 05:48 AM
About 6-7 years ago I saw two days of beautiful three-stack lennies off the
volcano in Puebla, along with nice looking flat bottom cu's at considerabe
altitude. Just outside of town I then spotted an L-19 with a tow hook! Stopped
in and found out it was a banner towing operation and no one had ever heard of
a glider in the area.

Bob

F.L. Whiteley
November 15th 03, 08:22 AM
"Arnold Pieper" > wrote in message
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> Anybody knows about Soaring places in Mexico ?
>
> I never heard of anything there...
>
> Arnold
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Somewhere between 1994-1995 I corresponded with someone who claimed to be
based in Mexico with about 10 local ships, including his own Janus CM. I
may have these e-mails archived somewhere. I believe my old DG-100
(partnered with Steele Lipe at one point) was sold and exported to Mexico,
but IIRC it was later imported back into the US.

There are undoubtedly some excellent soaring regions.

Frank Whiteley

Arnold Pieper
November 15th 03, 11:22 AM
Moving to Mexico ? not likely in the near future.
But I spend some time there every now and then, and I see excellent
conditions more often then not.

Recently I came accross a text on the internet describing a delivery of a
new ASH-25 to a customer in Monterrey, and it appears that guy had other
gliders there already. It may be a private person, not a club, but who
knows.

I did some research and the Mexican regulations don't seem to even include
Gliders or the Soaring activity.
Really odd considering the sport has been all over the world... and Mexico
being so close here.

Anyway, from my flights over Mexico, I think it may one day become one of
the great new discoveries in Soaring...


"Miguel Lavalle" > wrote in message
...
> Arnold,
>
> Brent and I exchanged some e-mail about soaring in
> Monterrey a couple of
> years ago. I don't recall that we actually found anything
> concrete. I have a
> good friend who is a retired executive jets pilot and
> lives in Monterrey. I
> am going to call him and ask whether he knows something.
>
> My guess is that there are no soaring operations in
> Mexico, due to two
> reasons:
>
> 1) My dad and brothers are airline pilots in Mexico.
> They have never
> mentioned anything about soaring or seeing soaring
> symbols in the charts
>
> 2) Taxes have not been very friendly to this type of
> activitiy. A glider
> would be classified as a luxury item and taxed at a
> rate of at least 100%
> over the purchase price. With NAFTA this probably changed
> recently but I
> don't think enough time has passed to allow the formation
> of soaring clubs.
>
> Anyway, as I said above, I will try to find something
>
> Just out of curiosity, are you planning to move to
> Mexico?
>
> Regards
>
> Miguel
>
> At 23:00 14 November 2003, 303pilot wrote:
> >There is an outfit that operates near Monterrey and
> >they have wave there in
> >the winter. I thought I had some correspondence from
> >someone there but
> >can't find it... Miguel L, can you assist?
> >
> >'Arnold Pieper' wrote in message
> om...
> >> Anybody knows about Soaring places in Mexico ?
> >>
> >> I never heard of anything there...
> >>
> >> Arnold
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> >>
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Marry Daniel or David Grah
November 15th 03, 02:33 PM
I agree. Mexico should have a huge soaring future. The weather conditions
I have seen in visits to Mexico have been very impressive over large areas.


"Arnold Pieper" > wrote in message
. com...
> Moving to Mexico ? not likely in the near future.
> But I spend some time there every now and then, and I see excellent
> conditions more often then not.
>
> Recently I came accross a text on the internet describing a delivery of a
> new ASH-25 to a customer in Monterrey, and it appears that guy had other
> gliders there already. It may be a private person, not a club, but who
> knows.
>
> I did some research and the Mexican regulations don't seem to even include
> Gliders or the Soaring activity.
> Really odd considering the sport has been all over the world... and Mexico
> being so close here.
>
> Anyway, from my flights over Mexico, I think it may one day become one of
> the great new discoveries in Soaring...
>
>
> "Miguel Lavalle" > wrote in
message
> ...
> > Arnold,
> >
> > Brent and I exchanged some e-mail about soaring in
> > Monterrey a couple of
> > years ago. I don't recall that we actually found anything
> > concrete. I have a
> > good friend who is a retired executive jets pilot and
> > lives in Monterrey. I
> > am going to call him and ask whether he knows something.
> >
> > My guess is that there are no soaring operations in
> > Mexico, due to two
> > reasons:
> >
> > 1) My dad and brothers are airline pilots in Mexico.
> > They have never
> > mentioned anything about soaring or seeing soaring
> > symbols in the charts
> >
> > 2) Taxes have not been very friendly to this type of
> > activitiy. A glider
> > would be classified as a luxury item and taxed at a
> > rate of at least 100%
> > over the purchase price. With NAFTA this probably changed
> > recently but I
> > don't think enough time has passed to allow the formation
> > of soaring clubs.
> >
> > Anyway, as I said above, I will try to find something
> >
> > Just out of curiosity, are you planning to move to
> > Mexico?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Miguel
> >
> > At 23:00 14 November 2003, 303pilot wrote:
> > >There is an outfit that operates near Monterrey and
> > >they have wave there in
> > >the winter. I thought I had some correspondence from
> > >someone there but
> > >can't find it... Miguel L, can you assist?
> > >
> > >'Arnold Pieper' wrote in message
> > om...
> > >> Anybody knows about Soaring places in Mexico ?
> > >>
> > >> I never heard of anything there...
> > >>
> > >> Arnold
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Eric Coleson
November 16th 03, 04:31 AM
There's a thread in the archives here titled "Gliding in Mexico".
Some of the contact info may still be useful.

Buena Suerte,
Eric

"Arnold Pieper" > wrote in message >...
> Anybody knows about Soaring places in Mexico ?
>
> I never heard of anything there...
>
> Arnold

Miguel Lavalle
November 16th 03, 06:34 AM
I just searched in Yahoo Mexico (in Spanish) and found
nothing about 'Vuelo a vela'. However I found a paraglidng
club close to Mexico City and sent them an e-mail.
Let's see what we get back

Regards

Miguel


At 22:42 14 November 2003, Arnold Pieper wrote:
>Anybody knows about Soaring places in Mexico ?
>
>I never heard of anything there...
>
>Arnold
>
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>

Bob2nd
November 16th 03, 11:33 PM
Somewhere in the cobwebs of my mind, I recall an article, I think in Soaring
within the last 10 years or so, about a club not too far north of Mexico City.
Don't remember what equipment they had, but I vaguely remember something about
somebody with a Libelle.

Take it for what it is worth and consider the source.............

Marcel Duenner
November 17th 03, 11:52 AM
There was a Mexican who competed at the Worlds in New Zealand in 1995.
His name is Roberto Sada Salinas. According to
http://acro.harvard.edu/SOARING/JL/Awards/SILVER/1960.html
he was awarded his Silver Badge in 1960 by the SSA though.

C.Fleming
November 17th 03, 08:22 PM
I soar in Mexico all of the time!

Did I get your attention? Ok, I'll come clean: I launch from El Paso, TX,
and take full advantage of (CFR 99.1) that says that as long as I stay
within 10nm of my launch field, I can cross the ADIZ freely. During the
winter months with weak instability, I scratch my way across the border and
find stronger thermals where the Mexican's are burning brush along the Rio
Grande. During stronger soaring conditions I can't cross the ADIZ, because
I fly much greater distances, and don't meet the requirements of (CFR 99.1).

The area surrounding Chihuahua, Mexico looks awesome for soaring, and I've
strongly considering getting a self-launching 18m sailplane to take
advantage of it. There are massive lines of rugged mountains that certainly
have strong slope-induced thermals during the summer. I'm sure Mexico has a
bright soaring future!

Chris Fleming, 'L9'




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> I never heard of anything there...
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