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Ray Lovinggood
November 20th 03, 01:30 PM
This following was published on 'AVweb' today about
Personal Locator Beacons:
Personal Locator Beacon Credited With First Lower-48
Rescue
A Cleveland man who got snowed in while camping in
the Adirondack Mountains in New York last week was
rescued by a UH-1 Huey helicopter thanks to the help
of his personal locator beacon (PLB). The rescue marks
the first such use of a PLB in the contiguous United
States. About 10 a.m. on Nov. 14, Carl Skalak, 55,
was faced with frigid weather, four-foot snow drifts
and a frozen river that he had paddled in on. He activated
his beacon, and after being routed through various
agencies, the helicopter was dispatched to his coordinates
with a medical team. 'I am profoundly thankful for
all those who were willing to put themselves in harm's
way on my behalf,' said Skalak. 'Many terrific people
worked together to make this mission a success.' The
system worked just as it was supposed to, said NOAA
officials. Prior to July, PLBs had only been available
for use in Alaska under a test program to evaluate
their usefulness in search and rescue. The success
seen in Alaska paved the way for the technology to
be used throughout the rest of the nation.
JJ Sinclair
November 20th 03, 02:33 PM
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>Personal Locator Beacon Credited With First Lower-48
>Rescue
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Great story, Ray. Does anyone have more info on how the PLB works and where to
buy it?
Thanks,
JJ Sinclair
Ray Lovinggood
November 20th 03, 04:00 PM
JJ,
When I 'copied and pasted' the original report, the
hyperlink didn't make the transfer.
Go to:
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2003/s2124.htm
for additional details and links.
For where to buy, I did a Google search with 'personal
locator beacon' and found one place, a boating supply
shop, had them for about $600, I think.
I checked Tim Mara's web site, www.wingsandwheels.com,
and didn't see any (yet). Maybe Aircraft Spruce sells
them? I haven't checked Tom Knauff's site or Craggy
Aero or any others.
>Great story, Ray. Does anyone have more info on how
>the PLB works and where to
>buy it?
>Thanks,
>JJ Sinclair
>
Bob Johnson
November 20th 03, 04:01 PM
http://www.equipped.com/faq_plb/default.asp
JJ Sinclair wrote:
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> >Personal Locator Beacon Credited With First Lower-48
> >Rescue
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> Great story, Ray. Does anyone have more info on how the PLB works and where to
> buy it?
> Thanks,
> JJ Sinclair
Bob Johnson
November 20th 03, 04:26 PM
The PLB product page may be hard to find ------
http://www.acrelectronics.com/PLBorig/406plbnew.html
Bob Johnson wrote:
> http://www.equipped.com/faq_plb/default.asp
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> JJ Sinclair wrote:
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> > >Personal Locator Beacon Credited With First Lower-48
> > >Rescue
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> > Great story, Ray. Does anyone have more info on how the PLB works and where to
> > buy it?
> > Thanks,
> > JJ Sinclair
Eric Greenwell
November 20th 03, 07:13 PM
Bob Johnson wrote:
> The PLB product page may be hard to find ------
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> http://www.acrelectronics.com/PLBorig/406plbnew.html
That unit doesn't transmit the GPS position, but this one will if you
connect a GPS to it:
http://www.acrelectronics.com/PLBorig/gypsi.html
But even without the GPS info, it appears they alert and direct rescue
people more quickly.
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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA
Mark James Boyd
November 20th 03, 08:38 PM
I bought one a few years back for $250 or so at a
boating supply store. When I fly solo X-C,
I carry this portable ELT, Pilot III GPS,
a portable radio, and a cell phone. The total
weight and bulk of these four items seems
negligible.
I'd be surprised if these four couldn't
get me rescued, assuming I'm conscious...
Ray Lovinggood
November 20th 03, 10:40 PM
Check this out:
http://www.pwss.com/?Menu=17&Page=/Contents/ListProducts.asp&ID=10
26
(Guess you might have to do a couple of 'cut and paste'
moves there.)
It takes you to a web page showing a personal locater
beacon that combines: 406 MHz transmitter, 121.5 homing
frequency, and an interal gps receiver.
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
Mario Crosina
November 20th 03, 11:52 PM
JJ, at westmarine.com CM
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=81473&catalogId=10001&classNum=53&subdeptNum=52&storeNum=8
"JJ Sinclair" > wrote in message
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> >Personal Locator Beacon Credited With First Lower-48
> >Rescue
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> Great story, Ray. Does anyone have more info on how the PLB works and
where to
> buy it?
> Thanks,
> JJ Sinclair
Marc Williams
November 21st 03, 04:59 PM
For rescue after an aircraft mishap... no - I want the impact-actuated
model.
For rescue while camping out of radio/cell line of site:
When the weather I didn't check turns bad.
The chart I didn't bring leads me astray.
A member of my party sustains injury that affects our ability to
transport them out.
I foolishly leave the scene of an accident to walk out.
That's when satellite-based communication is NICE.
An Iridium satellite phone and a hiker's GPS would work even better,
assuming I can dial a phone.
Cheers -
Mark James Boyd
November 21st 03, 05:34 PM
>Does anyone have any thoughts about why one would
>want a personal ELT over a fixed unit?
>Todd Pattist - "WH" Ventus C
The portable EPIRB (personal ELT) I own costs
$159 at West Marine. The impact activated
ELT with 4 "D" batteries and a remote activation
switch for panel mounting costs $200.
In every case of flying, I'd prefer the $200
version. But since I fly non-owned aircraft
exclusively, I can't rely on having one installed.
I originally bought the personal ELT for sailing.
I started bringing it with me on flights when
I noticed:
1) Many of the planes/gliders I flew either had
no ELT installed or had no remote activation switch (older ELT)
2) I read somewhere (maybe AVWEB?) that only 25%
of accidents actually activate the installed ELT on impact.
So the idea of just flipping a switch of something I wear
on my chest with an antenna that won't be broken
is comforting.
In theory, I'd activate it anytime I'm below 1000 AGL and
about to make an off field landing, then I'd shut it
off if the landing goes "well".
In practice, I was once below 1000AGL about to land at
a lousy off-field in mountains and hadn't activated it.
Fortunately I found a low thermal instead. The reality
of having to land out came up so quickly and I was so busy
setting up, I didn't flip the switch on my chest.
Over mountains in power planes, however, I fly quite high
and am sure I'd have plenty of mental time to flip the
EPIRB. In a non-transpondered ragwing experimental
high over the desert far from anything my hand-held
radio can call, that EPIRB was the first thing on
my mind if my engine quit.
If you own your own aircraft, spend the $200 and
install the remote switch as well, and hit that
switch early if you even THINK you may crash
(this is better than the 25% chance it'll activate).
If all goes well, you can reset it 5 minutes later,
right? The little blinking light on the
panel will help to remind you...
P.S. Duats makes it so easy to file a flight plan
and get a briefing, I do this for all of my
cross-country flights (glider and otherwise).
Print it out, have your O/O sign it and that
becomes your declaration too, eh? :)
Mark A. Matthews
November 21st 03, 08:48 PM
In article >,
Todd Pattist > wrote:
> Do they sell Personal ELT's in the hiking/camping market? I
> always thought of it as an aviation related product - as
> that's the only context I've seen it in. It makes a *lot*
> more sense to me if it wasn't intended for aviation use.
From http://www.cospas-sarsat.org/download/R7AnnexC.pdf -
4112 : Sept 1982 - December 2001 number of SAR Events
1184 : ELT (Emergency Landing Transmitter) aviation
2421 : EPIRB (Emergency Position-Indicating Radiobeacons) maritime
507 : PLB (Personal Locator Beacon) other
So the sailors need resucuing by a 2:1 margin over the aviators. I guess
the hikers don't get lost much.
--
-Mark
Eric Greenwell
November 21st 03, 08:58 PM
Mark James Boyd wrote:
> P.S. Duats makes it so easy to file a flight plan
> and get a briefing, I do this for all of my
> cross-country flights (glider and otherwise).
> Print it out, have your O/O sign it and that
> becomes your declaration too, eh? :)
What do you put in your flight plan? I've never considered it since I
rarely know where I'm going, sometimes even after I've been in the air
an hour or two.
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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA
Mark James Boyd
November 22nd 03, 08:28 PM
In article >,
Eric Greenwell > wrote:
>Mark James Boyd wrote:
>
>> P.S. Duats makes it so easy to file a flight plan
>> and get a briefing, I do this for all of my
>> cross-country flights (glider and otherwise).
>> Print it out, have your O/O sign it and that
>> becomes your declaration too, eh? :)
>
>What do you put in your flight plan? I've never considered it since I
>rarely know where I'm going, sometimes even after I've been in the air
>an hour or two.
>
>Eric Greenwell
Before going to Avenal, the night before I look very closely
at the Blipmaps (THANK YOU DR. JACK!)
http://www.drjack.net/BLIPMAP/contributors.html
From there I decide if I go north or south (south is only
good if there is convergence).
Then I check the thermal strengths to decide how far,
and I put one of my standard planned declarations in the
flight plan. I can usually do this the night before
on DUATS (www.duats.com).
100km triangle, 200km triangle or 300km out and return.
So I always have SOME declaration before takeoff,
and I'm always flying something a little bit close to
that flight plan. For example, even if I launch too
late to make the full 300km south route, I'll still go
south some to feel it out.
This would keep searchers from going East or West
ever, and tells them North or South. It also
clues in my tow pilot so when he gives his
last tow before coming to retrieve me, he releases
the guy on the way to getting me (saves $$$).
Maybe for commercial operators and some clubs with
computers, having pilots file a flight plan before
every X-C attempt is efficient. Then the pilot
has all NOTAMS, ATC knows where to look for you,
the FBO knows there may be a landout and can retain
tow staff/crew, the CFI (if needed) has some
printout to review, and your O/O has something to
sign right before takeoff.
It's a little extra effort to prep some declarations
(with lat/long for ATC) right before filing, but
once I've planned them once, it's easy to review the weather,
pick a route, and fly something at least in that
compass quadrant...
For me, I always have SOME idea what I'm going to do
before takeoff, and I let someone on the ground
know what it is in even more detail than the flight
plan, right before takeoff...
Often this includes my likely (and favorite) landouts.
Duats is great once one gets over the initial learning
curve. It gives some info (like winds at possible
landouts, and winds aloft at various altitudes) which
is very valuable.
You can also change, and THEN activate, your flight
plan in the air. Simple changes like routing
give the guy little grief. Your FBO/crew can then
call 1 800 WX BRIEF and get the latest if
you're overdue too...
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