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Jim White[_3_]
February 28th 17, 11:05 PM
When can we expect California to cede the union?

kirk.stant
March 1st 17, 05:39 PM
On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 5:15:05 PM UTC-6, Jim White wrote:
> When can we expect California to cede the union?

Cede what? To whom? If you mean Secede, then yes, Please! A lot of us can't wait for those left coast clowns to leave!

Some shaped charges in the San Andreas fault and you can tow what is left out to sea; park it half way to Hawaii to it would serve a useful purpose.

Whoo Hoo! Havasu city gets a real beach!

Or just rejoin Mexico, that'll make our food (and movies?) cheaper... The Fence would have to be a bit longer, though.

Oh, wait, it isn't 4/1?

Kirk
Actually starting to enjoy all the whining!

Jim White[_3_]
March 1st 17, 06:13 PM
At 17:39 01 March 2017, kirk.stant wrote:
>On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 5:15:05 PM UTC-6, Jim White wrote:
>> When can we expect California to cede the union?
>
>Cede what? To whom? If you mean Secede, then yes, Please! A lot of us
can't
>wait for those left coast clowns to leave!
>
>Some shaped charges in the San Andreas fault and you can tow what is left
>out to sea; park it half way to Hawaii to it would serve a useful
purpose.
>
>Whoo Hoo! Havasu city gets a real beach!
>
>Or just rejoin Mexico, that'll make our food (and movies?) cheaper... The
>Fence would have to be a bit longer, though.
>
>Oh, wait, it isn't 4/1?
>
>Kirk
>Actually starting to enjoy all the whining!
>
>
You are correct. I meant secede. With an economy the size of the UK and
France put together it could do well in a free trade world.

March 1st 17, 06:46 PM
If Cal is so rich why can't they maintain their dams?

Bruce Hoult
March 1st 17, 07:11 PM
On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 9:15:07 PM UTC+3, Jim White wrote:
> At 17:39 01 March 2017, kirk.stant wrote:
> >On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 5:15:05 PM UTC-6, Jim White wrote:
> >> When can we expect California to cede the union?
> >
> >Cede what? To whom? If you mean Secede, then yes, Please! A lot of us
> can't
> >wait for those left coast clowns to leave!
> >
> >Some shaped charges in the San Andreas fault and you can tow what is left
> >out to sea; park it half way to Hawaii to it would serve a useful
> purpose.
> >
> >Whoo Hoo! Havasu city gets a real beach!
> >
> >Or just rejoin Mexico, that'll make our food (and movies?) cheaper... The
> >Fence would have to be a bit longer, though.
> >
> >Oh, wait, it isn't 4/1?
> >
> >Kirk
> >Actually starting to enjoy all the whining!
> >
> >
> You are correct. I meant secede. With an economy the size of the UK and
> France put together it could do well in a free trade world.

That is undeniable.

Unfortunately, the voters in California are some of the most statist, anti free trade in the world.

howard banks
March 1st 17, 08:43 PM
I vote with Kirk. Wonder if enough of us vote we can force them to exit?


On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 6:15:05 PM UTC-5, Jim White wrote:
> When can we expect California to cede the union?

Steve Leonard[_2_]
March 1st 17, 09:35 PM
On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 2:43:24 PM UTC-6, howard banks wrote:
> I vote with Kirk. Wonder if enough of us vote we can force them to exit?
>
Well, Howard. They are all in favor of "Majority Rules", so I would guess that if the US took a vote, the rest of the states could vote California out.

Jonathan St. Cloud
March 1st 17, 10:32 PM
Having grown up (if men ever really grow up) in Idaho, but being a 30 year resident of California, I can tell you I am very happy here. Three reasons the weather, the weather and the weather. It is freaking perfect! Sure, we have landslides, earth quakes, wildfires and riots, hell if we had a volcano we would be a full service disaster center. State government can't decide if it is red or blue, certainly highly regulated, but did I mention the weather?

Not so much this year, but for the first ten years I lived in San Diego, my senses were not refined enough to distinguish between summer and winter. Couldn't figure out why the beaches were empty after Labor Day. After years of practice I can now tell the differences between summer and winter. Winter usually has colder nights, you might need a light jacket a few nights a year, and water temps are lower, wet suit recommended for swims of over 30 minutes from thanksgiving to Presidents Day. As I type this it is 69 degrees and sunny, similar for tomorrow and most days of the year. I am going wherever the state goes.

Throw all the flames you want, I am staying with the perfect weather. Not humid, not too hot nor too cold.

Bruce Hoult
March 1st 17, 11:25 PM
On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:32:19 AM UTC+3, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> Having grown up (if men ever really grow up) in Idaho, but being a 30 year resident of California, I can tell you I am very happy here. Three reasons the weather, the weather and the weather. It is freaking perfect! Sure, we have landslides, earth quakes, wildfires and riots, hell if we had a volcano we would be a full service disaster center. State government can't decide if it is red or blue, certainly highly regulated, but did I mention the weather?
>
> Not so much this year, but for the first ten years I lived in San Diego, my senses were not refined enough to distinguish between summer and winter.. Couldn't figure out why the beaches were empty after Labor Day. After years of practice I can now tell the differences between summer and winter. Winter usually has colder nights, you might need a light jacket a few nights a year, and water temps are lower, wet suit recommended for swims of over 30 minutes from thanksgiving to Presidents Day. As I type this it is 69 degrees and sunny, similar for tomorrow and most days of the year. I am going wherever the state goes.
>
> Throw all the flames you want, I am staying with the perfect weather. Not humid, not too hot nor too cold.

Sounds like where I grew up, 100 miles or so north of Auckland in that long narrow peninsular.

Sadly there aren't many of my kind of job there, but there is a decent gliding club.

sisu1a
March 2nd 17, 12:08 AM
On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-8, wrote:
> If Cal is so rich why can't they maintain their dams?


Some states are givers and some are takers. Seeing as Ca falls into the 'giver' category my guess is if that money went into shoring up local infrastructure like dams and bridges instead of subsidizing 'taker' states the money would be there for such upgrades.


https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

Bob Whelan[_3_]
March 2nd 17, 12:26 AM
> ...but being a 30 year
> resident of California, I can tell you I am very happy here. Three reasons
> the weather, the weather and the weather. It is freaking perfect! Sure,
> we have landslides, earth quakes, wildfires and riots, hell if we had a
> volcano we would be a full service disaster center.

Ha ha ha! You may get your wish in your soaring lifetime, and if judging by
torched wheat stubble is a good guide, plan on riding one hellacious IFR
thermal when (say) Shasta goes. IFR or not, it'll be completely safe, too,
thanks to the latest (illegal in U.S. contests, so I read on RAS) A/H
technologies now rampant in glider cockpits. As with any thermal, timing will
be everything, I'll bet...

Living in Colorado, I'm waiting for Yellowstone to blow, myself.

Bob - is it still winter? - W.

Bob Kuykendall
March 2nd 17, 02:02 AM
I think we should just start buying up other states. We could pick up Nevada and Arizona with pocket change, then do a bunch of LBOs out to the Mississippi.

WAVEGURU
March 2nd 17, 02:32 AM
Get this bull**** off of this forum! We have to put up with political bs everywhere else. Keep it off of here please?

Boggs

Jim White[_3_]
March 2nd 17, 11:48 AM
At 02:32 02 March 2017, Waveguru wrote:
>Get this bull**** off of this forum! We have to put up with political bs
>everywhere else. Keep it off of here please?
>
>Boggs
>
Fair enough Boggs, but it was fun whilst it lasted.

As the UK was a net giver to the EU, we voted out. Seemed to me that there
will be many in CA who would feel the same way about the US federation. But
would that actually be possible? Do you have an article 50? Just curious.

Bruce Hoult
March 2nd 17, 01:07 PM
On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 3:00:05 PM UTC+3, Jim White wrote:
> At 02:32 02 March 2017, Waveguru wrote:
> >Get this bull**** off of this forum! We have to put up with political bs
> >everywhere else. Keep it off of here please?
> >
> >Boggs
> >
> Fair enough Boggs, but it was fun whilst it lasted.
>
> As the UK was a net giver to the EU, we voted out. Seemed to me that there
> will be many in CA who would feel the same way about the US federation. But
> would that actually be possible? Do you have an article 50? Just curious.

Texas believes it does. None of the other states do.

Dan Marotta
March 2nd 17, 03:52 PM
Last time any of the states tried to secede from the union it didn't
work out too well. You Brits better watch out that the rest of the EU
doesn't form a Union Army to bring you back into the fold. BTW, I'm on
your side.

On 3/2/2017 4:48 AM, Jim White wrote:
> At 02:32 02 March 2017, Waveguru wrote:
>> Get this bull**** off of this forum! We have to put up with political bs
>> everywhere else. Keep it off of here please?
>>
>> Boggs
>>
> Fair enough Boggs, but it was fun whilst it lasted.
>
> As the UK was a net giver to the EU, we voted out. Seemed to me that there
> will be many in CA who would feel the same way about the US federation. But
> would that actually be possible? Do you have an article 50? Just curious.
>

--
Dan, 5J

Tim Newport-Peace[_4_]
March 2nd 17, 06:17 PM
No. When the Taxas Legation in London closed in 1845, there was an unpaid
rent bill of $160, which was not paid until 1986.


At 15:52 02 March 2017, Dan Marotta wrote:
>Last time any of the states tried to secede from the union it didn't
>work out too well. You Brits better watch out that the rest of the EU
>doesn't form a Union Army to bring you back into the fold. BTW, I'm on
>your side.
>
>On 3/2/2017 4:48 AM, Jim White wrote:
>> At 02:32 02 March 2017, Waveguru wrote:
>>> Get this bull**** off of this forum! We have to put up with political
>bs
>>> everywhere else. Keep it off of here please?
>>>
>>> Boggs
>>>
>> Fair enough Boggs, but it was fun whilst it lasted.
>>
>> As the UK was a net giver to the EU, we voted out. Seemed to me that
>there
>> will be many in CA who would feel the same way about the US federation.
>But
>> would that actually be possible? Do you have an article 50? Just
curious.
>>
>
>--
>Dan, 5J
>

Bruce Hoult
March 2nd 17, 06:46 PM
On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 6:52:32 PM UTC+3, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Last time any of the states tried to secede from the union it didn't
> work out too well. You Brits better watch out that the rest of the EU
> doesn't form a Union Army to bring you back into the fold. BTW, I'm on
> your side.

I'm not a Brit. I've never even set foot in the UK. I've spent about three years in the USA, though I haven't been there since 2009 either.

Brad[_2_]
March 3rd 17, 12:45 AM
On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 6:32:53 PM UTC-8, Waveguru wrote:
> Get this bull**** off of this forum! We have to put up with political bs everywhere else. Keep it off of here please?
>
> Boggs

meh, must be wet and windy in Bogg's neck of the woods, triggered much Gary? :)

WAVEGURU
March 3rd 17, 02:21 PM
It has rained here a bunch so far this year. It's so green here in The Sonoran Desert that it almost looks like Oregon! Lots of wind to dry out the mud so no problem there. All the growth is starting to bloom now. It will be beautiful and colorful for the next couple of months.

Boggs

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