Twin jet glider

[Eric Greenwell]

I don't recall seeing these before (ventue jets):

http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/ventus_escala_real.htm

If you can read Spanish, you could start here:

http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/marcos_inicio.htm

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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

[Ray Lovinggood]

While the jets are interesting, the trailer is REALLY
interesting.

Take a look.
http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/ventus_escala_real.htm

I've never seen a trailer like that. Does anyone know
anything about it?

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
LS-1d 'W8'

At 22:54 04 December 2003, Eric Greenwell wrote:
>I don't recall seeing these before (ventue jets):
>
>http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/ventus_escala_real.htm
>
>If you can read Spanish, you could start here:
>
>http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/marcos_inicio.htm
>
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>Eric Greenwell
>Washington State
>USA
>
>

[Marc Ramsey]

At 22:54 04 December 2003, Eric Greenwell wrote:
>I don't recall seeing these before (ventue jets):
>
>http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/ventus_escala_real.htm
>
>If you can read Spanish, you could start here:
>
>http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/marcos_inicio.htm

Well, I guess the pictures prove that RC model jet
turbines can be used for self-launch 8^)

Marc

[Paul]

Maybe they should have purchased a better model self launcher then they
wouldn't have to add the jet engines ;-)


"Marc Ramsey" > wrote in message
...
> At 22:54 04 December 2003, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> >I don't recall seeing these before (ventue jets):
> >
> >http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/ventus_escala_real.htm
> >
> >If you can read Spanish, you could start here:
> >
> >http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/marcos_inicio.htm
>
> Well, I guess the pictures prove that RC model jet
> turbines can be used for self-launch 8^)
>
> Marc
>
>

[Scott]

ouch!
"Paul" > wrote in message
...
>
> Maybe they should have purchased a better model self launcher then they
> wouldn't have to add the jet engines ;-)
>
>
> "Marc Ramsey" > wrote in message
> ...
> > At 22:54 04 December 2003, Eric Greenwell wrote:
> > >I don't recall seeing these before (ventue jets):
> > >
> > >http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/ventus_escala_real.htm
> > >
> > >If you can read Spanish, you could start here:
> > >
> > >http://personales.ya.com/jetcatspain/marcos_inicio.htm
> >
> > Well, I guess the pictures prove that RC model jet
> > turbines can be used for self-launch 8^)
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
>
>
>




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[Slingsby]

Also check out www.genesisflyers.com A Genesis with a jet engine.

[Magnus Johansson]

The pictures ( www.genesisflyers.com ) showing my Genesis2 with a "jet
turbine" is a JetCat P200 mockup. As it looks now I will use a new Swedish
jet turbine developed solely for sailplanes. The major advantage with this
is that it starts on Jet A1 fuel (no starting gas).
The engine(s) will be 100% retractable into the fuselage when not used.

Magnus

"Slingsby" > skrev i meddelandet
om...
> Also check out www.genesisflyers.com A Genesis with a jet engine.

[Slingsby]

"Magnus Johansson" > wrote in message >...
> The pictures ( www.genesisflyers.com ) showing my Genesis2 with a "jet
> turbine" is a JetCat P200 mockup. As it looks now I will use a new Swedish
> jet turbine developed solely for sailplanes. The major advantage with this
> is that it starts on Jet A1 fuel (no starting gas).
> The engine(s) will be 100% retractable into the fuselage when not used.
>
> Magnus

Nice idea, especially if it easily can self start. Try to design it so
that when the engines extend a cover also comes up to close the hatch.
That way you don't have the added drag of a large hole in the
fuselage.

[Magnus Johansson]

Yes it can. One start button and a throttle, that's it. 12-15 s. from
pushing the button to full thrust. I will use the original hatch both when
the engine is inside and outside.

"Slingsby" > skrev i meddelandet
om...
> "Magnus Johansson" > wrote in message
>...
> > The pictures ( www.genesisflyers.com ) showing my Genesis2 with a "jet
> > turbine" is a JetCat P200 mockup. As it looks now I will use a new
Swedish
> > jet turbine developed solely for sailplanes. The major advantage with
this
> > is that it starts on Jet A1 fuel (no starting gas).
> > The engine(s) will be 100% retractable into the fuselage when not used.
> >
> > Magnus
>
> Nice idea, especially if it easily can self start. Try to design it so
> that when the engines extend a cover also comes up to close the hatch.
> That way you don't have the added drag of a large hole in the
> fuselage.

[tango4]

A great idea I think but how do you intend to get it past the European
beurocracy - JAR etc? I know the BGA is 'less than receptive' to the idea of
retrofitting sustainer jet engines.

Ian

"Magnus Johansson" > wrote in message
...
> Yes it can. One start button and a throttle, that's it. 12-15 s. from
> pushing the button to full thrust. I will use the original hatch both when
> the engine is inside and outside.
>
> "Slingsby" > skrev i meddelandet
> om...
> > "Magnus Johansson" > wrote in message
> >...
> > > The pictures ( www.genesisflyers.com ) showing my Genesis2 with a
"jet
> > > turbine" is a JetCat P200 mockup. As it looks now I will use a new
> Swedish
> > > jet turbine developed solely for sailplanes. The major advantage with
> this
> > > is that it starts on Jet A1 fuel (no starting gas).
> > > The engine(s) will be 100% retractable into the fuselage when not
used.
> > >
> > > Magnus
> >
> > Nice idea, especially if it easily can self start. Try to design it so
> > that when the engines extend a cover also comes up to close the hatch.
> > That way you don't have the added drag of a large hole in the
> > fuselage.
>
>

[Andreas Maurer]

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:15:40 GMT, "Magnus Johansson"
> wrote:

>Yes it can. One start button and a throttle, that's it. 12-15 s. from
>pushing the button to full thrust. I will use the original hatch both when
>the engine is inside and outside.

These engines are nice - but a couple of weeks ago I saw a TV report
about a model Boeing 747 (200 lbs, scale 1:10), and of 4 engines they
tried to start, one caught fire right in front of the camera. The 747
team seemed to have expected this - a guy with a fire extinguisher was
already sitting right in front of the engine.

Not very convincing safety record if you ask me... ;)



Bye
Andreas

[David Sieber]

Andreas Maurer > wrote in message >...
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:15:40 GMT, "Magnus Johansson"
> > wrote:
>
> >Yes it can. One start button and a throttle, that's it. 12-15 s. from
> >pushing the button to full thrust. I will use the original hatch both when
> >the engine is inside and outside.
>
> These engines are nice - but a couple of weeks ago I saw a TV report
> about a model Boeing 747 (200 lbs, scale 1:10), and of 4 engines they
> tried to start, one caught fire right in front of the camera. The 747
> team seemed to have expected this - a guy with a fire extinguisher was
> already sitting right in front of the engine.
>
> Not very convincing safety record if you ask me... ;)
>
>
>
> Bye


How much do these puppies cost???


> Andreas

[Andreas Maurer]

On 9 Dec 2003 11:18:26 -0800, (David Sieber)
wrote:


>How much do these puppies cost???

Depends on manufacturer, equipment and thrust, but I think it starts
from $3.000.

Check this:
http://www.shop.graupner.de/webapp/commerce/command/ExecMacro/Graupner/macros/main.d2w/report?lang=en&show_cat=5667

Bye
Andreas