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April 15th 17, 01:22 AM
On Saturday, October 21, 2000 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> Looks like he entered a flat spin of which he could not recover.
> Seems to me the heavy engine in the tail might have caused/contributed
> to the flat spin.
> Did anybody else make stall/spin tests with the Windex 1200 ?
> Dan
> In article >,
> "Jim Pike" > wrote:
> > Here's the report. No fault found with A/C.
> > http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/MIA/97A091.htm
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > "Tim Mara" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I think their message may not be telling to whole story.....
> > > As I remember it, it wasn't so much that the US distributor/owner
> wanted
> > to
> > > concentrate on his other business so much as that it was that one
> of the
> > > major investors in this project in the US was killed in his
> Windex....
> > > I think a further investigation of this incident might reveal a
> more
> > > anyway.......that's the way I heard it....
> > > tim
> > >
> > > > WINDEXAIR AB took over the Windex 1200C project from Radab summer
> of 99
> > > and
> > > > has further developed the kit to reduce the building time
> dramatically.
> > We
> > > > do not have any US distributors. The Florida based Windex
> Corporation
> > was
> > > a
> > > > free standing company that was closed down when the owner wanted
> to
> > > > concentrate on his other businesses.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

My name is Steve Coan and I was the test pilot for every Windex that was built in the U.S. I did extensive flight tests and evaluation on the ship including spins and flat spins. I can tell you that Lars Bergstrom did not enter a flat spin. With his weight, the CG was very much sufficiently forward which would render a flat spin impossible. The notion that the engine mounted in the vertical stab could have contributed to entering a flat spin is "poppycock". Lars suffered from narcolepsy. Plain and simple: he fell asleep and entered a standard spin - to the ground. This was evident when I examined the crash site. The Windex 1200C is a might fine aircraft and I am looking to purchase another if I can find one!
Hope this helps.

Matt Herron Jr.
April 15th 17, 02:35 AM
On Friday, April 14, 2017 at 5:22:25 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Saturday, October 21, 2000 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > Looks like he entered a flat spin of which he could not recover.
> > Seems to me the heavy engine in the tail might have caused/contributed
> > to the flat spin.
> > Did anybody else make stall/spin tests with the Windex 1200 ?
> > Dan
> > In article >,
> > "Jim Pike" > wrote:
> > > Here's the report. No fault found with A/C.
> > > http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/MIA/97A091.htm
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > "Tim Mara" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I think their message may not be telling to whole story.....
> > > > As I remember it, it wasn't so much that the US distributor/owner
> > wanted
> > > to
> > > > concentrate on his other business so much as that it was that one
> > of the
> > > > major investors in this project in the US was killed in his
> > Windex....
> > > > I think a further investigation of this incident might reveal a
> > more
> > > > anyway.......that's the way I heard it....
> > > > tim
> > > >
> > > > > WINDEXAIR AB took over the Windex 1200C project from Radab summer
> > of 99
> > > > and
> > > > > has further developed the kit to reduce the building time
> > dramatically.
> > > We
> > > > > do not have any US distributors. The Florida based Windex
> > Corporation
> > > was
> > > > a
> > > > > free standing company that was closed down when the owner wanted
> > to
> > > > > concentrate on his other businesses.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> My name is Steve Coan and I was the test pilot for every Windex that was built in the U.S. I did extensive flight tests and evaluation on the ship including spins and flat spins. I can tell you that Lars Bergstrom did not enter a flat spin. With his weight, the CG was very much sufficiently forward which would render a flat spin impossible. The notion that the engine mounted in the vertical stab could have contributed to entering a flat spin is "poppycock". Lars suffered from narcolepsy. Plain and simple: he fell asleep and entered a standard spin - to the ground. This was evident when I examined the crash site. The Windex 1200C is a might fine aircraft and I am looking to purchase another if I can find one!
> Hope this helps.

someone chose to fly with narcolepsy???

Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)
April 15th 17, 01:49 PM
Agreed, that should be a BIG disqualification for flying (or driving, etc.) solo.

BTW, 17 year thread bump!?!? By previous poster.

J. Nieuwenhuize
April 16th 17, 10:39 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dr7qbkq1zk72098/AACde8Rxhj_lunUJEZlCaeF8a?dl=0&preview=2017-04-07+14.04.15.jpg

This guy was for sale last week.

Op zaterdag 15 april 2017 02:22:25 UTC+2 schreef :
> On Saturday, October 21, 2000 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > Looks like he entered a flat spin of which he could not recover.
> > Seems to me the heavy engine in the tail might have caused/contributed
> > to the flat spin.
> > Did anybody else make stall/spin tests with the Windex 1200 ?
> > Dan
> > In article >,
> > "Jim Pike" > wrote:
> > > Here's the report. No fault found with A/C.
> > > http://www.ntsb.gov/Aviation/MIA/97A091.htm
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > "Tim Mara" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I think their message may not be telling to whole story.....
> > > > As I remember it, it wasn't so much that the US distributor/owner
> > wanted
> > > to
> > > > concentrate on his other business so much as that it was that one
> > of the
> > > > major investors in this project in the US was killed in his
> > Windex....
> > > > I think a further investigation of this incident might reveal a
> > more
> > > > anyway.......that's the way I heard it....
> > > > tim
> > > >
> > > > > WINDEXAIR AB took over the Windex 1200C project from Radab summer
> > of 99
> > > > and
> > > > > has further developed the kit to reduce the building time
> > dramatically.
> > > We
> > > > > do not have any US distributors. The Florida based Windex
> > Corporation
> > > was
> > > > a
> > > > > free standing company that was closed down when the owner wanted
> > to
> > > > > concentrate on his other businesses.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
> My name is Steve Coan and I was the test pilot for every Windex that was built in the U.S. I did extensive flight tests and evaluation on the ship including spins and flat spins. I can tell you that Lars Bergstrom did not enter a flat spin. With his weight, the CG was very much sufficiently forward which would render a flat spin impossible. The notion that the engine mounted in the vertical stab could have contributed to entering a flat spin is "poppycock". Lars suffered from narcolepsy. Plain and simple: he fell asleep and entered a standard spin - to the ground. This was evident when I examined the crash site. The Windex 1200C is a might fine aircraft and I am looking to purchase another if I can find one!
> Hope this helps.

April 18th 17, 04:50 PM
A few more photos I took at AERO.

https://goo.gl/photos/6rxqvZXdNDCxMU1BA

October 20th 17, 02:52 AM
No one knows the Windex better than Steve Coan. I always wondered what happened to Lars. Steve knew Lars well too.

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