Kitplanes August Issue

[Badwater Bill]

Does anyone know when the August issue of Kitplanes is going to be
out? When do they normally send it if you subscribe? There's an
article on the Old Men's Airplane Building Project (OMABP) i.e. Jess
Meyer's RV-6A with the Chevy engine in it.

You might recall that I was the test pilot on that project about 8
years ago and started posting stuff here on the flights I was making
in it each day.

My wife (Boom-Boom) shot all the photographs for the August Kitplanes
article . She's got a new Cannon 10-D. Of course there's a great
shot of Jess, Tom and me in the thing, that's why I want to know when
it will be out, so I can go buy a copy and lurk at myself.

BWB

[John Ammeter]

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:29:16 GMT,
(Badwater Bill) wrote:

>
>Does anyone know when the August issue of Kitplanes is going to be
>out? When do they normally send it if you subscribe? There's an
>article on the Old Men's Airplane Building Project (OMABP) i.e. Jess
>Meyer's RV-6A with the Chevy engine in it.
>
>You might recall that I was the test pilot on that project about 8
>years ago and started posting stuff here on the flights I was making
>in it each day.
>
>My wife (Boom-Boom) shot all the photographs for the August Kitplanes
>article . She's got a new Cannon 10-D. Of course there's a great
>shot of Jess, Tom and me in the thing, that's why I want to know when
>it will be out, so I can go buy a copy and lurk at myself.
>
>BWB
>


You gonna take the magazine into the bathroom with you??
Along with the latest Playboy, too??

jon

[JohnT.]

Already out, at least for the subscribers. Got mine earlier this week
with a trash back cover (thanks, USPS).

John

[geo]

"JohnT." > wrote in message
...
> Already out, at least for the subscribers. Got mine earlier this week
> with a trash back cover (thanks, USPS).

Don't complaing; my front cover was trashed.

--
Look at the world today. Is there anything more pitiful? What madness there
is. What blindness. What unintelligent leadership. A scurrying mass of
bewildered humanity, crashing headlong against each other, compelled by an
orgy of greed and brutality. The time must come my friend, when this orgy
will spend itself. When brutality and the lust for power, must perish by its
own sword. -Lost Horizon, 1936

[Matt Whiting]

Badwater Bill wrote:
>
> Does anyone know when the August issue of Kitplanes is going to be
> out? When do they normally send it if you subscribe? There's an
> article on the Old Men's Airplane Building Project (OMABP) i.e. Jess
> Meyer's RV-6A with the Chevy engine in it.
>
> You might recall that I was the test pilot on that project about 8
> years ago and started posting stuff here on the flights I was making
> in it each day.
>
> My wife (Boom-Boom) shot all the photographs for the August Kitplanes
> article . She's got a new Cannon 10-D. Of course there's a great
> shot of Jess, Tom and me in the thing, that's why I want to know when
> it will be out, so I can go buy a copy and lurk at myself.
>
> BWB
>
>

I've got my subscription issue already. I don't know when the newsstand
issues will be out.


Matt

[pacplyer]

(Badwater Bill) wrote in message >...
> Does anyone know when the August issue of Kitplanes is going to be
> out? When do they normally send it if you subscribe? There's an
> article on the Old Men's Airplane Building Project (OMABP) i.e. Jess
> Meyer's RV-6A with the Chevy engine in it.
>
> You might recall that I was the test pilot on that project about 8
> years ago and started posting stuff here on the flights I was making
> in it each day.
>
> My wife (Boom-Boom) shot all the photographs for the August Kitplanes
> article . She's got a new Cannon 10-D. Of course there's a great
> shot of Jess, Tom and me in the thing, that's why I want to know when
> it will be out, so I can go buy a copy and lurk at myself.
>
> BWB

Way to go Dr. Strangewater! Make sure Boom Boom gets a bunch of shots
of you building that Legacy too. Send some to Jay to put up on the
gallery. Us no-newserver guys want to see this stuff too.

pac "jealous as hell" plyer

[Gary Thomas]

Badwater Bill wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know when the August issue of Kitplanes is going to be
> out? When do they normally send it if you subscribe? There's an
> article on the Old Men's Airplane Building Project (OMABP) i.e. Jess
> Meyer's RV-6A with the Chevy engine in it.
>
> You might recall that I was the test pilot on that project about 8
> years ago and started posting stuff here on the flights I was making
> in it each day.
>
> My wife (Boom-Boom) shot all the photographs for the August Kitplanes
> article . She's got a new Cannon 10-D. Of course there's a great
> shot of Jess, Tom and me in the thing, that's why I want to know when
> it will be out, so I can go buy a copy and lurk at myself.
>
> BWB

Bill,

It's out. At least sent to subscribers. Just got mine. You looked
alot younger ;^)

Gary Thomas

[[email protected]]

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:29:16 GMT, (Badwater
Bill) wrote:

>You might recall that I was the test pilot on that project about 8
>years ago and started posting stuff here on the flights I was making
>in it each day.

Is this the same airplane that you trashed here in this group because
of PSRU failures?

Corky Scott

[Corrie]

(Badwater Bill) wrote in message >...
> Does anyone know when the August issue of Kitplanes is going to be
> out? When do they normally send it if you subscribe? There's an
> article on the Old Men's Airplane Building Project (OMABP) i.e. Jess
> Meyer's RV-6A with the Chevy engine in it.
>

Got my copy a few days ago. I confess to having skipped past the RV
article in order to drool over Ron's pirep on the Hevle bros' Tandem
Toddler.

Corrie

[bryan chaisone]

Congrats to Boom Boom, Bill. Now... can you tell me which pages you
are on so we can skip your ugly mug? ;^)

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

(Badwater Bill) wrote in message >...
> Does anyone know when the August issue of Kitplanes is going to be
> out? When do they normally send it if you subscribe? There's an
> article on the Old Men's Airplane Building Project (OMABP) i.e. Jess
> Meyer's RV-6A with the Chevy engine in it.
>
> You might recall that I was the test pilot on that project about 8
> years ago and started posting stuff here on the flights I was making
> in it each day.
>
> My wife (Boom-Boom) shot all the photographs for the August Kitplanes
> article . She's got a new Cannon 10-D. Of course there's a great
> shot of Jess, Tom and me in the thing, that's why I want to know when
> it will be out, so I can go buy a copy and lurk at myself.
>
> BWB

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, bryan chaisone
says...
>
>Congrats to Boom Boom, Bill. Now... can you tell me which pages you
>are on so we can skip your ugly mug? ;^)

Yeah!! Skip BWB and go to page 50 and see a real nice CGS Hawk :-) Then check
out the Fly Baby with the radial engine .Gee 3 references to RAH people in one
issue....

See ya

Chuck S

[Darrel Toepfer]

ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:

> Yeah!! Skip BWB and go to page 50 and see a real nice CGS Hawk :-) Then check
> out the Fly Baby with the radial engine .Gee 3 references to RAH people in one
> issue....

Uh "Jim", he's not dead yet, either... Though I can't exactly figure out
the reasoning for the breakout box to ferry an airplane as he suggested.
If the plane doesn't have the equipment, it won't have the antennas
either. So if it doesn't - where exactly would you be strapping them on
a spam can?

[Jim Weir]

Are you talkin' to me?

Jim


->
->Uh "Jim", he's not dead yet, either... Though I can't exactly figure out
->the reasoning for the breakout box to ferry an airplane as he suggested.
->If the plane doesn't have the equipment, it won't have the antennas
->either. So if it doesn't - where exactly would you be strapping them on
->a spam can?



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Darrel Toepfer]

Jim Weir wrote:
> Are you talkin' to me?

Sorta, in a round about way... <g>

[Badwater Bill]

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 16:49:31 GMT, "geo" > wrote:

>"JohnT." > wrote in message
...
>> Already out, at least for the subscribers. Got mine earlier this week
>> with a trash back cover (thanks, USPS).
>
>Don't complaing; my front cover was trashed.
>
>--
>Look at the world today. Is there anything more pitiful? What madness there
>is. What blindness. What unintelligent leadership. A scurrying mass of
>bewildered humanity, crashing headlong against each other, compelled by an
>orgy of greed and brutality. The time must come my friend, when this orgy
>will spend itself. When brutality and the lust for power, must perish by its
>own sword. -Lost Horizon, 1936
>


****, I was in a good mood until I read this...now I'm suicidal.

Hey Dude. I'm sorry I asked.

BWB

[Badwater Bill]

>
>Way to go Dr. Strangewater! Make sure Boom Boom gets a bunch of shots
>of you building that Legacy too. Send some to Jay to put up on the
>gallery. Us no-newserver guys want to see this stuff too.
>
>pac "jealous as hell" plyer


Oh, I will. I'll post all of it for the jealous little cock suckers
here who will never build a thing and who will never fly anything that
ever goes like that son of a bitch.

BWb

[Badwater Bill]

>
>It's out. At least sent to subscribers. Just got mine. You looked
>alot younger ;^)
>
>Gary Thomas


I dyed my beard for the shots.

BWB

P.S. just kidding.----I looked younger in the shot because I was in a
good mood. I hadn't read RAH for a month or so.

[Badwater Bill]

>Is this the same airplane that you trashed here in this group because
>of PSRU failures?
>
>Corky Scott


Yep. That's the same airplane. These guys ironed out the bugs just
like Jack said in the article. I wouldn't worry a bit nowadays to fly
that thing. I actually think the airplane might be safer at this point
than one with a Lycosaur in it to tell you the truth Corky.

Hell, Jess and Tom worked on that thing everyday for nearly a decade.
An intelligent man might think that they actually made some
progress...but, then, this is RAH. Your comments are what I expect.

I'll tell you what Cork Screw. It's more airplane than YOU will most
likely ever fly. In fact it would probably scare you to death
because it's so fast and has so many ponies.

BWB

[Badwater Bill]

On 29 Jun 2004 06:54:49 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

>Congrats to Boom Boom, Bill. Now... can you tell me which pages you
>are on so we can skip your ugly mug? ;^)
>
>Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

That's the spirit Bryan. Just skip the whole thing. It's mostly a
magazine for people like the ones who read this ng, people who can't
fly and who will never build anything, but who drool and are insulting
to those who do go out and make a difference.

Tom and Jess did make a difference in spite of all the bull **** from
people like Paul Lamar and others. Guys like Bruce Frank know that
this can be done reliably. Tom and Jess and Bill Harold did it. The
damn thing has been flying flawlessly for years now. You get some
jerk like Cork Screw above who takes a shot because he was here and
read my posts about some 'early-on' failure.

What do you dopes thing research is all about? If you don't go
experiment you don't learn anything. This airplane was a colossal
experiment. There were some failures along the road to it's success.
What else would you expect? Do you think that we all could have built
a perfect airplane with a "crate" Vortec engine right out of the box
without some failures? If you do, then you are not a builder, and you
know nothing about research.

Research, my asshole friends, is one step forward and 10 steps
backward. That airplane was no different than any other research
project I was ever on in my life. It was thousands of hours of
thinking, designing, testing, failing...picking your ass up and doing
it again, year after year.

Hell, I was just the pilot. The true credit goes to Bill Harold, Tom
and Jess. They are the ones who stuck it out in the cold winters and
the hot summers in that hangar, until they had an airplane that did
what they wanted.

Jack Murietta (we always called him Juaqin---pronounced Whaa-Keen) did
a good job of telling the story the way it happened. He didn't hype
it and he didn't go into the millions of hours of rehashing things
until they got a winning solution.

Do you think that Burt's space shot last week was any different?
Hell, that wasn't the first test of that system. They've had many set
backs along the way as they redesigned things. I understand that they
even had some sort of control malfunction on this space-shot, but Mike
Melville went to a backup system and overcame it.

It's the way research is folks.

BWB

[RobertR237]

>
>>
>>It's out. At least sent to subscribers. Just got mine. You looked
>>alot younger ;^)
>>
>>Gary Thomas
>
>
>I dyed my beard for the shots.
>
>BWB
>
>P.S. just kidding.----I looked younger in the shot because I was in a
>good mood. I hadn't read RAH for a month or so.
>

Bull Chips, who told you that you looked younger? We all know what an airbrush
can do to help the appearance of those in need. Tell Boom-Boom she did a good
job.

<BFG>


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:48:58 GMT, (Badwater
Bill) wrote:

>Yep. That's the same airplane. These guys ironed out the bugs just
>like Jack said in the article. I wouldn't worry a bit nowadays to fly
>that thing. I actually think the airplane might be safer at this point
>than one with a Lycosaur in it to tell you the truth Corky.
>
>Hell, Jess and Tom worked on that thing everyday for nearly a decade.
>An intelligent man might think that they actually made some
>progress...but, then, this is RAH. Your comments are what I expect.
>
>I'll tell you what Cork Screw. It's more airplane than YOU will most
>likely ever fly. In fact it would probably scare you to death
>because it's so fast and has so many ponies.
>
>BWB

Ah, excellent example of a Phillips segue. Absolutely true to form.

Thanks, Corky Scott

[Matt Whiting]

Badwater Bill wrote:

>>Is this the same airplane that you trashed here in this group because
>>of PSRU failures?
>>
>>Corky Scott
>
>
>
> Yep. That's the same airplane. These guys ironed out the bugs just
> like Jack said in the article. I wouldn't worry a bit nowadays to fly
> that thing. I actually think the airplane might be safer at this point
> than one with a Lycosaur in it to tell you the truth Corky.
>
> Hell, Jess and Tom worked on that thing everyday for nearly a decade.
> An intelligent man might think that they actually made some
> progress...but, then, this is RAH. Your comments are what I expect.
>
> I'll tell you what Cork Screw. It's more airplane than YOU will most
> likely ever fly. In fact it would probably scare you to death
> because it's so fast and has so many ponies.

The article was pretty short on details. I haven't checked the belted
site maybe details are there. How many ponies? How fast? The 4.3L in
my pickup is pretty pathetic...


Matt

[Badwater Bill]

>Ah, excellent example of a Phillips segue. Absolutely true to form.
>
>Thanks, Corky Scott

Your post is an excellent example of RAHian bull ****. True to form.
Take some ancient post from the archive and blow it up into plural
failures of the PSRU. Typical D. Moonman **** actually. You should
be ashamed of yourself Corkdust. Don't you have some books to
arrange?

When did the PSRU ever fail?

I'd like to know because I don't remember that it ever did.

Jess had some problems with one batch of defective belts in about
1998. There was one batch that was absolute crap. But the PSRU never
failed in any way that I can recall. That PSRU is bullet proof in my
humble opinion or I'd have never flown it as the test pilot. And I
did go over that thing with a fine tooth comb early on. If I were
going to risk my butt in that thing I had to know all the engineering
on it and I demanded that of Meyers. He provided everything I needed
to convince myself the design was worthy to my satisfaction. Hell,
Jess had been flying that thing in a Globe Swift for years before they
ever installed it in the RV-6A.

So, Corkman, where did I post that anything other than a belt in the
PSRU ever failed? Go find it and repost it here or you're just
another RAHian dork trying to discredit the fine work of a great team
of guys...the guys of the OMABP.

Meyers is not stupid. He's been selling these for a decade. If
anybody knew of anything wrong or even weak on that thing, we'd have
all tried to do whatever we could do to fix the problem.

Nope, Cork Screw, the PSRU was never the problem. The problem was a
series of tiny things that needed to be built or changed that related
to using the automotive engine. And, believe me, if I thought there
was anything wrong on that installation in any way, I'd be the first
one to point it out to Meyers. And... Jess is the type who would
change it in the interest of safety.

BWB

[Morgans]

"Matt Whiting" > wrote

> The article was pretty short on details. I haven't checked the belted
> site maybe details are there. How many ponies? How fast? The 4.3L in
> my pickup is pretty pathetic...
>
>
> Matt
>
It isn't at all hard to get 235 HP dyno'ed on a 4.3 Chevy, just by changing
the cam. Lots more, if you play with some other stuff. Nascar ran them for
a while in the Bush series cars. Lots of power available, but short in the
time before overhaul department! <g>

There is a guy in our EAA chapter that has built a RV, and put a belted 4.3
in it. Here in stock car land, there are plenty of guys that will tear an
engine down, blueprint and balance it, for next to nothing. I think he put
aluminum heads on it, also. Saves quite a few pounds from the stock iron
heads. He has run it quite a bit, and had very good results. A bit high on
fuel consumption, so he built another one, and put a dinky C-150 engine in
it, and gets good cheap, cross country with it.
--
Jim in NC


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[Roger Halstead]

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:43:44 GMT, (Badwater
Bill) wrote:

>
>>
>>Way to go Dr. Strangewater! Make sure Boom Boom gets a bunch of shots
>>of you building that Legacy too. Send some to Jay to put up on the
>>gallery. Us no-newserver guys want to see this stuff too.
>>
>>pac "jealous as hell" plyer
>
>
>Oh, I will. I'll post all of it for the jealous little cock suckers
>here who will never build a thing and who will never fly anything that
>ever goes like that son of a bitch.

Hey! You get that mutha finished up and we'll have a run off against
my G-III...ahhh...unless you are powering it with a turbine. OTOH we
have one about finished near here running a 360HP, turbo charged
Lycosarus.

You'll probably be at TBO by the time I get mine done. GAWD , but I'm
tired of doing engine mount attach point reinforcements. Just about
to do the header tank.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


>
>BWb
>

[bryan chaisone]

My conclusion as to why BWB hasn't yet crashed and burned is that he
is always full of hot air.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaison

wrote in message >...
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 05:48:58 GMT, (Badwater
> Bill) wrote:
>
> >Yep. That's the same airplane. These guys ironed out the bugs just
> >like Jack said in the article. I wouldn't worry a bit nowadays to fly
> >that thing. I actually think the airplane might be safer at this point
> >than one with a Lycosaur in it to tell you the truth Corky.
> >
> >Hell, Jess and Tom worked on that thing everyday for nearly a decade.
> >An intelligent man might think that they actually made some
> >progress...but, then, this is RAH. Your comments are what I expect.
> >
> >I'll tell you what Cork Screw. It's more airplane than YOU will most
> >likely ever fly. In fact it would probably scare you to death
> >because it's so fast and has so many ponies.
> >
> >BWB
>
> Ah, excellent example of a Phillips segue. Absolutely true to form.
>
> Thanks, Corky Scott

[Badwater Bill]

I didn't take it seriously Bryan. In fact I was going to say
something like "Don't you just love digital photos and Photoshop 6.0!
You can even make an old coot look reasonable enough they'll publish
is mug in a magazine!"

Jesus, by the time you are my age you will have done twice the stuff
I've done. I really haven't done all that much. My biggest problem
was that I wasn't born rich. I had to make every dime before I could
spend it. If my karma is so bad that I have to reincarnate as a poor
boy again, I'll opt for a longer rest period in between lives. You
Buddhists can arrange that can't you? ;--]

Man, your life sounds full and productive as all hell. Hang in there.
I'd be damn proud to be 38 and have done all that you have done.

I'll tell you what really happened to me here when I responded to you.
I just forgot who in the hell you were. All the names get to looking
the same after awhile. I promise you however, that from now on, I
will never forget who you are. You are someone who is a player and
not a bystander. You are in the field of play, not watching from the
sideline. You have my apology Bryan. I'm getting old and I just
didn't connect your name with who you are.

Sorry for that.

Best Wishes,

BWB

[Badwater Bill]

On 2 Jul 2004 06:22:58 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
wrote:

>And I even supported this guy when he thought of becoming a writer.
>
>Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone
>
>P.S. Its all about YOU itsn't it Bill?

Sorry I ****ed you off Bryan. As I said in my response above, I
didn't connect the printed-name with who you are for some reason. I'm
sure it's old age. Sorry again. I promise that I won't let it happen
again EVER!

I wish that you and I had met in real life then it would be easier.
Maybe someday. Where the hell are you? Virginy?

I got a trip planned out that-a-way in the next few weeks. Where the
hell are you. Maybe I'll come by and take you to lunch.

If you don't want to respond to where you are on this ng, I don't
blame you. My email address here is an email address I never check
either. If you want to email me, email Ammeter and tell him to give
you my top secret email address so we may correspond. Also, I'm going
to try to get one through to you from yours here if you read it, then
you'll have mine.

BWB

[bryan chaisone]

As I have accepted your apologiy and have apologized to you in my
response to your private email to me, I apologize to you here
publicly. What I said was said in the heat of passion, I humbly
apologize.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

(Badwater Bill) wrote in message >...
> On 2 Jul 2004 06:22:58 -0700, (bryan chaisone)
> wrote:
>
> >And I even supported this guy when he thought of becoming a writer.
> >
> >Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone
> >
> >P.S. Its all about YOU itsn't it Bill?
>
> Sorry I ****ed you off Bryan. As I said in my response above, I
> didn't connect the printed-name with who you are for some reason. I'm
> sure it's old age. Sorry again. I promise that I won't let it happen
> again EVER!
>
> I wish that you and I had met in real life then it would be easier.
> Maybe someday. Where the hell are you? Virginy?
>
> I got a trip planned out that-a-way in the next few weeks. Where the
> hell are you. Maybe I'll come by and take you to lunch.
>
> If you don't want to respond to where you are on this ng, I don't
> blame you. My email address here is an email address I never check
> either. If you want to email me, email Ammeter and tell him to give
> you my top secret email address so we may correspond. Also, I'm going
> to try to get one through to you from yours here if you read it, then
> you'll have mine.
>
> BWB