Re: Any landing you can walk away from...

[B2431]

>From: Richard Riley
>Date: 6/26/2004 1:53 AM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Naaa, this one's bad anyway.
>
>http://www.gravett.org/tm/archives/ChinaAirlines.wmv

I wonder how many cases of whiplash.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[B2431]

>From: (B2431)
>Date: 6/26/2004 3:46 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>>From: Richard Riley
>>Date: 6/26/2004 1:53 AM Central Daylight Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>Naaa, this one's bad anyway.
>>
>>http://www.gravett.org/tm/archives/ChinaAirlines.wmv
>
>I wonder how many cases of whiplash.
>
>Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Just as a matter if curiosity was zoom piloting this?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Anthony]

"B2431" > wrote in message
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> Just as a matter if curiosity was zoom piloting this?
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Please forgive my ignorance but who is this infamous "Zoom?"

Tony

[C J Campbell]

"Anthony" > wrote in message
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> "B2431" > wrote in message
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> > Just as a matter if curiosity was zoom piloting this?
> >
> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> Please forgive my ignorance but who is this infamous "Zoom?"

Jim Campbell (no relation), the publisher of Aero News. It appears that the
man is given to making outrageous claims about his accomplishments, has been
known to bill people for services they did not want, and is a frequent
visitor to the courtroom.

His usual methods of dealing with his enemies are said to be defamation and
assault, both of which are departures from the ancient Campbell way.
Campbells traditionally attack their enemies at night, burn their castles,
kill the women and children before putting their enemies' eyes out, and then
force their enemies to live in the ruins for decades without allowing them
to even change their clothes. I don't know why Jim has chosen these less
effective methods, but some few here have questioned his lineage and that
might explain it.

[Dillon Pyron]

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:20:48 -0700, Richard Riley
> wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:24:16 GMT, "Anthony" >
>wrote:
>
>:
>:"B2431" > wrote in message
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>:
>:> Just as a matter if curiosity was zoom piloting this?
>:>
>:> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>:
>:Please forgive my ignorance but who is this infamous "Zoom?"
>:
>:Tony
>
>See
>
>http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ousterj/zoom.html
>
>for some background. If you don't have *any* idea who he is, the web
>page will seem pretty disjointed - it's assuming you know Zoom in
>general, and is trying to let you know about the dark side. Muddle
>through it and you'll get a pretty good idea.

And all this time I've been told "the less you know, the happier
you'll be".

--
dillon

When I was a kid, I thought the angel's name was Hark
and the horse's name was Bob.

[B2431]

>From: "Anthony"
>Date: 6/26/2004 5:24 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>"B2431" > wrote in message
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>> Just as a matter if curiosity was zoom piloting this?
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
>Please forgive my ignorance but who is this infamous "Zoom?"
>
>Tony

He's a rather entertaing fool who claims all kinds of things that can proved
wrong. His latest claim is that he was the first to spot the damage on SS1 even
though he was not in the aircraft that saw it first.

Check out www.aero-news.net

He has claimed to be a doctor, to have flown a huge number of types.
I don't recall the latest number of types, but last I heard it was on the order
of 750. He;s claimed to be a test pilot.He's been banned from Sun'n'fun for his
activities. Oodles and oodles of wild claims and lawsuits. When pressed for
proof he makes accusations and threatens law suits.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Harry K]

(B2431) wrote in message >...
> >From: (B2431)
> >Date: 6/26/2004 3:46 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >>From: Richard Riley
> >>Date: 6/26/2004 1:53 AM Central Daylight Time
> >>Message-id: >
> >>
> >>Naaa, this one's bad anyway.
> >>
> >>http://www.gravett.org/tm/archives/ChinaAirlines.wmv
> >
> >I wonder how many cases of whiplash.
> >
> >Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
>
> Just as a matter if curiosity was zoom piloting this?
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Probably. That way he can claim a mission for each bounce.

Harry K

[Morgans]

Cute clip, but that has done its rounds before, and it has been photoshopped
to death. Physics say there are things being done that are not possible.
--
Jim in NC

"Richard Riley" > wrote in message
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> Naaa, this one's bad anyway.
>
> http://www.gravett.org/tm/archives/ChinaAirlines.wmv




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[Anthony]

"B2431" > wrote in message
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> >Please forgive my ignorance but who is this infamous "Zoom?"
> >
> >Tony
>
> He's a rather entertaing fool who claims all kinds of things that can
proved
> wrong. His latest claim is that he was the first to spot the damage on SS1
even
> though he was not in the aircraft that saw it first.
>
> Check out www.aero-news.net
>
> He has claimed to be a doctor, to have flown a huge number of types.
> I don't recall the latest number of types, but last I heard it was on the
order
> of 750. He;s claimed to be a test pilot.He's been banned from Sun'n'fun
for his
> activities. Oodles and oodles of wild claims and lawsuits. When pressed
for
> proof he makes accusations and threatens law suits.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

So Zoom is like Al Gore but far more annoying?

Tony

[B2431]

>From: "Anthony"
>Date: 6/27/2004 12:35 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>"B2431" > wrote in message
...
>
>> >Please forgive my ignorance but who is this infamous "Zoom?"
>> >
>> >Tony
>>
>> He's a rather entertaing fool who claims all kinds of things that can
>proved
>> wrong. His latest claim is that he was the first to spot the damage on SS1
>even
>> though he was not in the aircraft that saw it first.
>>
>> Check out www.aero-news.net
>>
>> He has claimed to be a doctor, to have flown a huge number of types.
>> I don't recall the latest number of types, but last I heard it was on the
>order
>> of 750. He;s claimed to be a test pilot.He's been banned from Sun'n'fun
>for his
>> activities. Oodles and oodles of wild claims and lawsuits. When pressed
>for
>> proof he makes accusations and threatens law suits.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
>So Zoom is like Al Gore but far more annoying?
>
>Tony

He makes Al "I invented the internet" Bore look like a novice. The only good
things zoom has done is to provide hours of entertainment and he's never run
for public office.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

[Anthony]

"B2431" > wrote in message
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> >So Zoom is like Al Gore but far more annoying?
> >
> >Tony
>
> He makes Al "I invented the internet" Bore look like a novice. The only
good
> things zoom has done is to provide hours of entertainment and he's never
run
> for public office.
>
> Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Thanks, I get the picture.

Tony

[Corrie]

(B2431) wrote in message >...
> >From: Richard Riley
> >Date: 6/26/2004 1:53 AM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >Naaa, this one's bad anyway.
> >
> >http://www.gravett.org/tm/archives/ChinaAirlines.wmv
>
> I wonder how many cases of whiplash.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Saw this in a beer commercial a while ago and fisked out where the
CGFX and editing had been done.

[Fred the Red Shirt]

"Anthony" > wrote in message >...
> "B2431" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > ... he makes accusations and threatens law suits.
> >
>
> So Zoom is like Al Gore but far more annoying?
>

By any chance do you refer to Bush v. Gore?

--

FF

[B2431]

>From: (Fred the Red Shirt)
>Date: 6/29/2004 12:18 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>"Anthony" > wrote in message
>...
>> "B2431" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > ... he makes accusations and threatens law suits.
>> >
>>
>> So Zoom is like Al Gore but far more annoying?
>>
>
>By any chance do you refer to Bush v. Gore?
>
>--
>
>FF

No, zoom's real name is Campbell and is a "reporter" for Aeronews Network. For
a brief overview see:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ousterj/zoom.html

Al Bore's name was invoked in reference to his claims of inventing the internet
etc.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Anthony says...


>>The only good things zoom has done is to provide hours of entertainment and
>>>>he's never run for public office.
>>
>> Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Thank goodness he never ran for office and he does provide entertainment to the
aviation masses who are aware of "his phoniness". But sadly he has also hurt a
great number of people financially and personally with his antics. To those
folks he's more than just a quaint buffoon. I hope he gets all he deserves.

Bet you a nickle he won't be on "any" chase planes for the next Rutan flight....
Just a hunch..

See ya

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

"credibility it was always about credibility and zoom has none." chuck s

[B2431]

>From: ChuckSlusarczyk
>Date: 6/29/2004 6:35 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>In article >, Anthony says...
>
>
>>>The only good things zoom has done is to provide hours of entertainment and
>>>>>he's never run for public office.
>>>
>>> Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired
>
>Thank goodness he never ran for office and he does provide entertainment to
>the
>aviation masses who are aware of "his phoniness". But sadly he has also hurt
>a
>great number of people financially and personally with his antics. To those
>folks he's more than just a quaint buffoon. I hope he gets all he deserves.
>
>Bet you a nickle he won't be on "any" chase planes for the next Rutan
>flight....
>Just a hunch..
>
>See ya
>
>Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret
>
>"credibility it was always about credibility and zoom has none." chuck s

Chuck, I apologize for trivializing the fool. I know what he's done to you and
others.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, B2431 says...
>Chuck, I apologize for trivializing the fool. I know what he's done to you and
>others.
>
>Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Hey Dan
No apology necessary but I appreciate the offer. Fact is, he does have a certain
entertainment value to go along with his vindictive nature. Hell!!He's amazing
....ask him... he makes me laugh when he starts pontificating on his greatness
LOL!!!

Take care

Chuck(Father of an USAF retired son) S

[Fred the Red Shirt]

(B2431) wrote in message >...
> >From: (Fred the Red Shirt)
> >Date: 6/29/2004 12:18 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >"Anthony" > wrote in message
> >...
> >> "B2431" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> > ... he makes accusations and threatens law suits.
> >> >
> >>
> >> So Zoom is like Al Gore but far more annoying?
> >>
> >
> >By any chance do you refer to Bush v. Gore?
> >
....
>
> Al Bore's name was invoked in reference to his claims of inventing the internet
> etc.
>

Anthony,

I thought maybe you were commenting on the part Dan said about lawsuits,
rather than wild claims.

As you know, the story about Al Gore claiming to have 'invented' the
internet, is just as fictional as Dan Quayle wishing he'd learned Latin
better in school so he could talk to folks in Latin America.

--

FF

[B2431]

>From: (Fred the Red Shirt)

>> Al Bore's name was invoked in reference to his claims of inventing the
>internet
>> etc.
>>
>
>Anthony,
>
>I thought maybe you were commenting on the part Dan said about lawsuits,
>rather than wild claims.
>
>As you know, the story about Al Gore claiming to have 'invented' the
>internet, is just as fictional as Dan Quayle wishing he'd learned Latin
>better in school so he could talk to folks in Latin America.

>FF

The funniest picture of Quayle was of him in South America holding an RPG
launcher backwards whil a local general was standing behind him getting ready
to crack up.

I saw a clip on TV where Al Bore DID claim to have invented the internet. I
know he didn't mean it that way. I believe he was in Congress in the 1970s and
voted for funding for the internet.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Fred the Red Shirt]

(B2431) wrote in message >...
> >From: (Fred the Red Shirt)
>
> >> Al Bore's name was invoked in reference to his claims of inventing the
> internet
> >> etc.
> >>
> >
> >Anthony,
> >
> >I thought maybe you were commenting on the part Dan said about lawsuits,
> >rather than wild claims.
> >
> >As you know, the story about Al Gore claiming to have 'invented' the
> >internet, is just as fictional as Dan Quayle wishing he'd learned Latin
> >better in school so he could talk to folks in Latin America.
>
>
> The funniest picture of Quayle was of him in South America holding an RPG
> launcher backwards whil a local general was standing behind him getting ready
> to crack up.
>

I heard of, but did not see film footage of, Quayle playing with a
somewhat anatomically correct, though perhaps exagerrated, male doll
with an articulated, well, you get the idea, during one of his trips
South of the Border. Evidently it was a traditional folk item, related
to fertility perhaps.

> I saw a clip on TV where Al Bore DID claim to have invented the internet. I
> know he didn't mean it that way. I believe he was in Congress in the 1970s and
> voted for funding for the internet.
>

Respectfully, I don't trust your memory. Perhaps you saw a clip of
Gore saying: "During my service in the United States Congress, I
took the initiative in creating the Internet. "

see:
http://www.dailyhowler.com/h032699_1.shtml
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2000/0004.parry.html
http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.Al.Gore.and.the.Inte.html
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm

Though off hand it is hard to find a lie told about Gore that is
quite as bad as the lie about GWB being AWOL.

Of course I was waiting to see if Anthony would make a false claim
that Gore sued during the Florida election fiasco. As you know,
it was Bush who sued for, and obtained, injunctive relief to halt
the examination of machine-rejected ballots in Bush v Gore. Although,
the characterization of the USSC decision as a mercy killing was apt.
Too bad the terminally ill patient was Democracy.

--

FF

[BillC85]

>Although, the characterization of the USSC decision as a mercy killing
was apt.
> Too bad the terminally ill patient was Democracy.
>
> --
>
> FF

If you really, really believed that I would hope you would be doing more
than just posting your opinion on an Internet newsgroup.

BillC