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Miloch
May 16th 17, 07:00 PM
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/israel-built-a-fighter-jet-so-strange-that-boeing-thoug-1795259564

It doesn’t have a sweet nickname like “The *******,” but the Israeli Air Force
recently deployed a F-15B that several years ago was considered a total loss.
The back half was ruined in a flight, but the front half was still good.
Undeterred, the Israeli techs merely sutured the good half to the good half of
another plane, to create this freak.

The project began in 2011 after a flock of pelicans flew straight into one of
the aircraft’s engines, which sparked a fire and forced an emergency landing,
according to Defense News. The entire rear half of the fighter jet was ruined,
but the front part still seemed to work just fine. So what to do with a piece of
nearly totaled junk?

After three years, the Israeli Air Force’s Depot 22 had an idea: a hybrid of
sorts, matching the front of the aircraft—called Arrowhead—to the back-end of a
F-15 that hasn’t been used for years and was sitting in a boneyard. Ingenious,
really. The depot tried reaching out to Boeing to see if it was possible,
reports Defense News, but it never heard back:

“When we started this project, we asked Boeing if it could be done, and we
didn’t get an answer back,” Lt. Col. Maxim Orgad, commander of Depot 22’s
Engineering Division, told Defense News. “So after several weeks went by and
still no answer, we contacted them again about our plan to combine two separate
aircraft. They said they never got back to us because they thought we were
joking.” 

Depot 22 managed to get the thing flying again, though they didn’t quite say
exactly how this monster handles.

But the project’s similar to what was done to The *******, the final SR-71 ever
manufactured. The nickname for the SR-71C, according to Hill Air Force Base,
stems from it being a weird mashup of the front half of an engineering mockup of
an SR-71, and the rear half of a crashed YF-12. Colonel Richard Graham was an
SR-71 pilot, and in his book SR-71 Revealed, he described The ******* as truly
living up to its name (emphasis ours):

The “C” model remained in storage at Beale [Air Force Base] and was to
be used only if the “B” model was going to be grounded for an extended period of
time. Maintenance named the “C” model “The *******” because of its hybrid
origin. They hated to work on the aircraft because it didn’t conform to standard
SR-71 maintenance procedures and was difficult to troubleshoot and repair. I was
fortunate enough to fly the “C” model twice during my training because [SR-71
number] “956" was undergoing heavy maintenance. It had a reduced fuel capacity
and, consequently, accelerated better because of its greater thrust-to-weight
ratio. It flew strangely – the needle and ball never centered because it was in
a constant yaw. Subsonic, it handled like all the other SR-71s.

Frankensteining a lost cause isn’t a bad way to save a little cash. A member of
the Israeli Air Force’s Depot 22 told Defense News that the Arrowhead project
cost just under $1 million.

“Today, to buy an aircraft like this would cost more than $40 million,” the
official said. Not a bad deal.





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Byker
May 16th 17, 10:17 PM
"Miloch" wrote in message ...
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> http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/israel-built-a-fighter-jet-so-strange-that-boeing-thoug-1795259564

G.I. ingenuity

Byker
May 16th 17, 10:45 PM
Here's another aerial abomination: The Westland P.12 Lysander Delanne
(Wendover)

Almost everybody knows the Westland Lysander . Famous mainly for the risky
missions that the Allies undertook during WW2. Because of his special flight
characteristics of the Lysander was very suitable for landings on short
improvised airfields to pick up and drop off agents and Resistance fighters
in the middle of the night.

With the expected invasion of England in mind the Ministry of Defence was
looking for a way to defend the beaches. Thus was born the idea of Westlands’s
chief designer, Arthur Davenport, for a "beach strafer ", using the Lysander
as a basis but better armed to wipe clean the beach. Therefore it was
decided to install the 4-gun Nash & Thomson rear turret of a Wellington
bomber.

Byker
May 16th 17, 10:45 PM

Byker
May 16th 17, 10:47 PM

Byker
May 16th 17, 10:47 PM

Miloch
May 16th 17, 11:11 PM
In article >, Byker says...
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
>Here's another aerial abomination: The Westland P.12 Lysander Delanne
>(Wendover)
>
>Almost everybody knows the Westland Lysander . Famous mainly for the risky
>missions that the Allies undertook during WW2. Because of his special flight
>characteristics of the Lysander was very suitable for landings on short
>improvised airfields to pick up and drop off agents and Resistance fighters
>in the middle of the night.
>
>With the expected invasion of England in mind the Ministry of Defence was
>looking for a way to defend the beaches. Thus was born the idea of Westlands’s
>chief designer, Arthur Davenport, for a "beach strafer ", using the Lysander
>as a basis but better armed to wipe clean the beach. Therefore it was
>decided to install the 4-gun Nash & Thomson rear turret of a Wellington
>bomber.
>

Most interesting factoid:

"...And contrary to what you might expect at first sight, the flying
characteristics of this monstrosity were remarkably good . So much so that the
pilot flying the first test-flight in July 1941 ended it with a looping !

http://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?showtopic=60049




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Bob (not my real pseudonym)[_2_]
May 17th 17, 09:10 AM
On 16 May 2017 11:00:18 -0700, Miloch >
wrote:

>http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/israel-built-a-fighter-jet-so-strange-that-boeing-thoug-1795259564
>
>It doesn’t have a sweet nickname like “The *******,” but the Israeli Air Force
>recently deployed a F-15B that several years ago was considered a total loss.
>The back half was ruined in a flight, but the front half was still good.
>Undeterred, the Israeli techs merely sutured the good half to the good half of
>another plane, to create this freak.
>
>The project began in 2011 after a flock of pelicans flew straight into one of
>the aircraft’s engines, which sparked a fire and forced an emergency landing,
>according to Defense News. The entire rear half of the fighter jet was ruined,
>but the front part still seemed to work just fine. So what to do with a piece of
>nearly totaled junk?
>
>After three years, the Israeli Air Force’s Depot 22 had an idea: a hybrid of
>sorts, matching the front of the aircraft—called Arrowhead—to the back-end of a
>F-15 that hasn’t been used for years and was sitting in a boneyard. Ingenious,
>really. The depot tried reaching out to Boeing to see if it was possible,
>reports Defense News, but it never heard back:
>
>“When we started this project, we asked Boeing if it could be done, and we
>didn’t get an answer back,” Lt. Col. Maxim Orgad, commander of Depot 22’s
>Engineering Division, told Defense News. “So after several weeks went by and
>still no answer, we contacted them again about our plan to combine two separate
>aircraft. They said they never got back to us because they thought we were
>joking.” 
>
>Depot 22 managed to get the thing flying again, though they didn’t quite say
>exactly how this monster handles.
>
>But the project’s similar to what was done to The *******, the final SR-71 ever
>manufactured. The nickname for the SR-71C, according to Hill Air Force Base,
>stems from it being a weird mashup of the front half of an engineering mockup of
>an SR-71, and the rear half of a crashed YF-12. Colonel Richard Graham was an
>SR-71 pilot, and in his book SR-71 Revealed, he described The ******* as truly
>living up to its name (emphasis ours):
>
>The “C” model remained in storage at Beale [Air Force Base] and was to
>be used only if the “B” model was going to be grounded for an extended period of
>time. Maintenance named the “C” model “The *******” because of its hybrid
>origin. They hated to work on the aircraft because it didn’t conform to standard
>SR-71 maintenance procedures and was difficult to troubleshoot and repair. I was
>fortunate enough to fly the “C” model twice during my training because [SR-71
>number] “956" was undergoing heavy maintenance. It had a reduced fuel capacity
>and, consequently, accelerated better because of its greater thrust-to-weight
>ratio. It flew strangely – the needle and ball never centered because it was in
>a constant yaw. Subsonic, it handled like all the other SR-71s.
>
>Frankensteining a lost cause isn’t a bad way to save a little cash. A member of
>the Israeli Air Force’s Depot 22 told Defense News that the Arrowhead project
>cost just under $1 million.
>
>“Today, to buy an aircraft like this would cost more than $40 million,” the
>official said. Not a bad deal.

Not absolutely sure, but I think parts of one of these two fried
Eagles I photographed at Edwards AFB in 1978 is involved with this
story.

Got the following from a USAF vet who was there at the time:

"097 had just come out of fuel barn where the hyd. lines had been
removed, after replacement, the hyd. system was not bleed, long story
short, on eng. run on ramp, 097 jumped chocks and hit 107, the
resulting fire took out the front of 097 and the rear of 107, we
buried 097 between the runways at luke and sent 107 to mcair where the
front was mirged to the rear of, what we where told, was a wrecked
edward's bird or streak eagle, but the tail number stayed the same. i
was assigned to luke at that time, working out of r&r crash recovery.
we where the second group to the crash just behind the fire dept. it
was not a good day...smsgt.john farley,usaf,retired"

Joe Baugher's USAF serial list has the following on these two:

73-097 MSN 0038/A031. (555th TFTS, 58th TFTW) w/o Feb 2, 1978 due to
ground accident.

73-107 MSN 0050/A041. To Israel as 107 in 1992, later reserialed
008. Reported Apr 2006 as gate guard at Tel Nof AB.

Bob ^,,^

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