Camping at OSH

[COROSS2]

I am planning to attend Airventure for the first time this year. I thought I'd
drive up the morning of the 27th and camp for 3 nights. Is it likely I will be
able to get a site at that time? How are the facilities?

Thx

Chris

[Cy Galley]

"COROSS2" > wrote in message
...
> I am planning to attend Airventure for the first time this year. I
thought I'd
> drive up the morning of the 27th and camp for 3 nights. Is it likely I
will be
> able to get a site at that time? How are the facilities?
>
> Thx
>
> Chris

[Cy Galley]

You should not have any problem getting a camp site in the camp ground. We
have never run out of sites in the campground. It might be a long walk to
the shower houses. There are a couple of camp stores. There are portapotties
everywhere as we grab all there are in a 6 state area.
--
Cy Galley - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair
Safety Programs Editor - TC
EAA Sport Pilot

"COROSS2" > wrote in message
...
> I am planning to attend Airventure for the first time this year. I
thought I'd
> drive up the morning of the 27th and camp for 3 nights. Is it likely I
will be
> able to get a site at that time? How are the facilities?
>
> Thx
>
> Chris

[[email protected]]

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:36:06 GMT, "Cy Galley" >
wrote:

>You should not have any problem getting a camp site in the camp ground. We
>have never run out of sites in the campground. It might be a long walk to
>the shower houses. There are a couple of camp stores. There are portapotties
>everywhere as we grab all there are in a 6 state area.

One thing I never figured out was where do you clean off your dirty
dishes and pans if you are camping? RV's have their own kitchen but
those who are camping don't. You can't, or shouldn't be washing food
off your dishes at the communal water trough's so where do you go?

Corky Scott

[Morgans]

> wrote > One thing I never figured out was
where do you clean off your dirty
> dishes and pans if you are camping? RV's have their own kitchen but
> those who are camping don't. You can't, or shouldn't be washing food
> off your dishes at the communal water trough's so where do you go?
>
> Corky Scott
>
Take a water jug along and fill it up. At your site, use a dishpan and
soapy water. After the dishes have all the food off, use a pot on your
cookstove to boil water, then pour on the dishes to sterilize them. Some
use a Clorox and water solution, instead.
--
Jim in NC


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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:30:39 -0400, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>Take a water jug along and fill it up. At your site, use a dishpan and
>soapy water. After the dishes have all the food off, use a pot on your
>cookstove to boil water, then pour on the dishes to sterilize them. Some
>use a Clorox and water solution, instead.

What do you do with the dirty water? Throw it downwind? Pour it on
your neighbors tent? Save it for next time? I know how to wash
dishes, getting rid of the food flecked dishwater was what gave me
pause. I really did not know what to do with it, the quarters were
close and I wanted to be a good neighbor.

Corky Scott

[Dude]

Pour it on the fire. The grass there is already dead, and nature will take
care of the Ph imbalance before it gets back to the ground water.



> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:30:39 -0400, "Morgans"
> > wrote:
>
> >Take a water jug along and fill it up. At your site, use a dishpan and
> >soapy water. After the dishes have all the food off, use a pot on your
> >cookstove to boil water, then pour on the dishes to sterilize them. Some
> >use a Clorox and water solution, instead.
>
> What do you do with the dirty water? Throw it downwind? Pour it on
> your neighbors tent? Save it for next time? I know how to wash
> dishes, getting rid of the food flecked dishwater was what gave me
> pause. I really did not know what to do with it, the quarters were
> close and I wanted to be a good neighbor.
>
> Corky Scott
>

[Morgans]

"Dude" > wrote in message
...
> Pour it on the fire. The grass there is already dead, and nature will
take
> care of the Ph imbalance before it gets back to the ground water.

Or scratch a little hole, and let it soak back into the ground.
--
Jim in NC


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[B2431]

>Date: 6/30/2004 5:40 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>"Dude" > wrote in message
...
>> Pour it on the fire. The grass there is already dead, and nature will
>take
>> care of the Ph imbalance before it gets back to the ground water.
>
>Or scratch a little hole, and let it soak back into the ground.
>--
>Jim in NC
>

Or find where zoom is staying and do with it as you will :)

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Dude]

The dish water?

Surely, the prevailing RAH opinion would call for water from a different pot
altogether.



"B2431" > wrote in message
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>
> >Date: 6/30/2004 5:40 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >
> >"Dude" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Pour it on the fire. The grass there is already dead, and nature will
> >take
> >> care of the Ph imbalance before it gets back to the ground water.
> >
> >Or scratch a little hole, and let it soak back into the ground.
> >--
> >Jim in NC
> >
>
> Or find where zoom is staying and do with it as you will :)
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Scott]

2 solutions to the dirty dishes:

1. Paper plates and plastic hardware (Knife, fork, spoon, spork, whatever)

2. Fill one of those 5 gallon collapsable water containers (sold at Wal
Mart or camping stores) at the drinking fountains in the campground
(they have a valve down below that can be opened to fill the container)
and bring it back to your campsite, heat the water on a coleman stove,
open fire or even one of those solar water heaters (black bag filled
with water and hung in the sun normally used for showering).

Scott
29 year OSH veteran



wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:36:06 GMT, "Cy Galley" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>You should not have any problem getting a camp site in the camp ground. We
>>have never run out of sites in the campground. It might be a long walk to
>>the shower houses. There are a couple of camp stores. There are portapotties
>>everywhere as we grab all there are in a 6 state area.
>
>
> One thing I never figured out was where do you clean off your dirty
> dishes and pans if you are camping? RV's have their own kitchen but
> those who are camping don't. You can't, or shouldn't be washing food
> off your dishes at the communal water trough's so where do you go?
>
> Corky Scott
>

[Scott]

Or if you feel REALLY bad about discharging gray water unto the ground,
dump it in a portapottie...

Scott



Morgans wrote:

> "Dude" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Pour it on the fire. The grass there is already dead, and nature will
>
> take
>
>>care of the Ph imbalance before it gets back to the ground water.
>
>
> Or scratch a little hole, and let it soak back into the ground.

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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:56:06 GMT, "Dude" > wrote:

>Pour it on the fire. The grass there is already dead, and nature will take
>care of the Ph imbalance before it gets back to the ground water.

Dude, Coleman stove, no campfire.

Corky Scott

[[email protected]]

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:51:08 +0000, Scott >
wrote:

>2. Fill one of those 5 gallon collapsable water containers (sold at Wal
>Mart or camping stores) at the drinking fountains in the campground
>(they have a valve down below that can be opened to fill the container)
>and bring it back to your campsite, heat the water on a coleman stove,
>open fire or even one of those solar water heaters (black bag filled
>with water and hung in the sun normally used for showering).
>
>Scott

Scott, the question now is: What do you do with the dirty dishwater
when you are through washing the pots and pans? Even if you use paper
plates and plastic spoons, you still cook the food in something that
needs to be cleaned. How do you dispose of it in a sanitary manner?
We aren't talking trackless wilderness here, we're talking tent city.
I wouldn't think it would be good manners to be dumping scummy water
on the ground next to the neighboring tents.

The suggestion has been made to dump it in the Porto toilets, is this
acceptable to EAA?

Thanks, Corky Scott

[JohnT.]

If we have leftover dishwater (or cooking water, such as used for
boiling pasta), we often pour it in the road or a non-traffic area.
However, we got a pop up camper last year so if necessary, we can drain
to a outside waste container that can be dumped at a station later.
However, we rarely have that much water and still dump it outside.

As for camping, don't worry about it. They always have room. One year I
couldn't get there til friday, and wound up on 1st street near the
frontage road. It was a LONG walk, but I was there!

John

[Dude]

DOH!

Hey, wait, doesn't that take the fun out of camping?

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:56:06 GMT, "Dude" > wrote:
>
> >Pour it on the fire. The grass there is already dead, and nature will
take
> >care of the Ph imbalance before it gets back to the ground water.
>
> Dude, Coleman stove, no campfire.
>
> Corky Scott
>

[Jim Weir]

UW-O dorms are like camping with running water down the hall.

{;-)

Jim


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Matt Whiting]

Jim Weir wrote:

>
>
> UW-O dorms are like camping with running water down the hall.
>
> {;-)
>
> Jim
>
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com

Yes, after sleeping one two nights in the tent and enduring the crappy
shower trailers, we headed for the dorms and found a room mid-week and
spent the rest of the time there. Nobody bothered our tent of its
contents and it survived the thunderstorms that knocked many other tents
down. And they were all laughing at me for my ammo box full of rail
road spikes... Good think the 182 has a decent useful load!


Matt

[Dave S]

I walk out into the huge, wide area between rows of aircraft and pour it
on the ground.

Dave

wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:30:39 -0400, "Morgans"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Take a water jug along and fill it up. At your site, use a dishpan and
>>soapy water. After the dishes have all the food off, use a pot on your
>>cookstove to boil water, then pour on the dishes to sterilize them. Some
>>use a Clorox and water solution, instead.
>
>
> What do you do with the dirty water? Throw it downwind? Pour it on
> your neighbors tent? Save it for next time? I know how to wash
> dishes, getting rid of the food flecked dishwater was what gave me
> pause. I really did not know what to do with it, the quarters were
> close and I wanted to be a good neighbor.
>
> Corky Scott
>

[Dave S]

I went in 2002 and arrived midweek. I was placed in an empty spot on the
SECOND row near the registration booth on the north 40. It was a perfect
spot. Close to water, registration, north gate and showers.

dave

JohnT. wrote:

> If we have leftover dishwater (or cooking water, such as used for
> boiling pasta), we often pour it in the road or a non-traffic area.
> However, we got a pop up camper last year so if necessary, we can drain
> to a outside waste container that can be dumped at a station later.
> However, we rarely have that much water and still dump it outside.
>
> As for camping, don't worry about it. They always have room. One year I
> couldn't get there til friday, and wound up on 1st street near the
> frontage road. It was a LONG walk, but I was there!
>
> John
>

[Jay Smith]

wrote:
> What do you do with the dirty water? Throw it downwind? Pour it on
> your neighbors tent? Save it for next time? I know how to wash
> dishes, getting rid of the food flecked dishwater was what gave me
> pause. I really did not know what to do with it, the quarters were
> close and I wanted to be a good neighbor.

All the solid food matter gets scraped off into a trash bag and is
placed in one of the campground dumpsters.
What solid food matter remaining on your cooking implements should be
minimal.
Wash them in a dishpan and disperse the dirty water in the taxi aisle
between the rows of airplanes. If you are in the campground, pour it on
the roadway (it will help keep the dust down).

Tips to minimalize waste:
1) cook food wrapped in aluminum foil
2) use paper plates and cups
3) use plastic utensils
4) buy pre-packaged instant food (boil-a-bag rice, instant oatmeal,
frozen veggies); anything packaged in such a manner that you can drop it
into a pan of boiling/hot water to cook or heat. You can also use
ziplock freezer bags to heat food in hot water.

Backpacker freeze dried meals have an excellent selection available. You
prepare them in the foil pouch they come in by adding boiling water, and
you can eat directly from the pouch when ready.

I took my two kids (11&10) with me last year. I walked over to Piggly
Wiggly each day after the airshow and purchased groceries for each
evening meal. I didn't have to worry of keeping anything other than the
milk cold. I fixed steak and chicken breasts for dinner. The grill I
brought didn't even get dirty. Cooked the meat in heavy duty aluminum
foil and threw it away after dinner.
I fixed balanced meals just as I do at home. We had corn on the cob,
frozen veggies, mashed potatoes, baked potatoes, rice, gravy, etc.

[Dude]

Jay,

Where do you plan to be camping this year, and how do we find your tent?

Also, about what time do you eat dinner?

:)



"Jay Smith" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
> > What do you do with the dirty water? Throw it downwind? Pour it on
> > your neighbors tent? Save it for next time? I know how to wash
> > dishes, getting rid of the food flecked dishwater was what gave me
> > pause. I really did not know what to do with it, the quarters were
> > close and I wanted to be a good neighbor.
>
> All the solid food matter gets scraped off into a trash bag and is
> placed in one of the campground dumpsters.
> What solid food matter remaining on your cooking implements should be
> minimal.
> Wash them in a dishpan and disperse the dirty water in the taxi aisle
> between the rows of airplanes. If you are in the campground, pour it on
> the roadway (it will help keep the dust down).
>
> Tips to minimalize waste:
> 1) cook food wrapped in aluminum foil
> 2) use paper plates and cups
> 3) use plastic utensils
> 4) buy pre-packaged instant food (boil-a-bag rice, instant oatmeal,
> frozen veggies); anything packaged in such a manner that you can drop it
> into a pan of boiling/hot water to cook or heat. You can also use
> ziplock freezer bags to heat food in hot water.
>
> Backpacker freeze dried meals have an excellent selection available. You
> prepare them in the foil pouch they come in by adding boiling water, and
> you can eat directly from the pouch when ready.
>
> I took my two kids (11&10) with me last year. I walked over to Piggly
> Wiggly each day after the airshow and purchased groceries for each
> evening meal. I didn't have to worry of keeping anything other than the
> milk cold. I fixed steak and chicken breasts for dinner. The grill I
> brought didn't even get dirty. Cooked the meat in heavy duty aluminum
> foil and threw it away after dinner.
> I fixed balanced meals just as I do at home. We had corn on the cob,
> frozen veggies, mashed potatoes, baked potatoes, rice, gravy, etc.
>

[John Ammeter]

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 18:54:05 GMT, "Dude" >
wrote:

>Jay,
>
>Where do you plan to be camping this year, and how do we find your tent?
>
>Also, about what time do you eat dinner?
>

And what are you serving???

[Corrie]

"Morgans" > wrote in message >...
> "Dude" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Pour it on the fire. The grass there is already dead, and nature will
> take
> > care of the Ph imbalance before it gets back to the ground water.
>
> Or scratch a little hole, and let it soak back into the ground.

I've yet to make the hajj to OSH, but I've done some pretty large
camping events - 10,000 people on site for up to two weeks. The
campground has sump pits near the water faucets - a cubic-yard hole in
the ground filled with gravel and covered by wire mesh.

DON'T pour the greywater in the porta-potty. You do not want to risk
a backsplash. Besides, imagine how it would sound to a passer-by.